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    Neo Geo and Arcade not showing video previews - Steven Selph Scraper

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      swim0311
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      emulationstation v2.5.0rp

      I get video out of every system but the arcade and the neo geo. When I restart ES, the screen is black with the ES logo on it.

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        swim0311 @lumberg
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        @lumberg Yes and Yes

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          gaavoid
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          I had an issue with the videos I scraped from Arcade Italia. With OMX player turned on, the video would just show as black. They would work with OMX player set to off, but I ended up deleting these videos and rescraping from screen scraper. If you order the downloaded images folder by size in winscp, it will separate the videos from the images so you won't have to delete the images. (Your original image files won't be replaced if sselph's scraper already detects them in the downloaded images folders). Don't know if this is the same problem you're having though.

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            pjft
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            Definitely might be encoded in a way that's not supported by OMX Player. My recommendation, if that's the case (you can easily test that by disabling OMX Player) is to re-encode them in something like HandBrake.

            I had that as well with some videos from progettoemma .

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              swim0311
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              I disabled the OMX Player and now they work. Thanks for the help guys.

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                pjft @swim0311
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                @swim0311 Not a bother.

                If that is the case, though, I'd recommend re-encoding the videos - OMX Player is better suited for the Pi, as it is hardware accelerated and it won't lead to overheating and such.

                Once again, just something to bear in mind if that may become a problem for you.

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                  barrymossel
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                  @pjft said in Neo Geo and Arcade not showing video previews - Steven Selph Scraper:

                  But why do the other videos work and the ones in arcade not? I guess they are encoded the same?

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                    pjft @barrymossel
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                    @barrymossel not necessarily. Different contributors may encode differently. The same people may use different software or encodings throughout time.

                    As I said, the progettoemma snaps are a good example of having different encodings.

                    A reasonable way to test that is to get some media info app and load two files - one that runs and one that doesn't.

                    If you have VLC on your PC then open it and use the "Tools, Codec Information" option to find out what kind of data is stored.

                    They'll likely be different.

                    Mediainfo is also a good command line tool for that that may provide more details.

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                      swim0311
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                      So far here is all that is going on. When I turned off OMX the arcade and neo geo videos worked... but the videos became lag city. I went into the neo geo and arcade roms, deleted the images and videos. Went back into retropie and updated the script. Basic install after that. Press f4 and go into scraper. I updated the scraper. I also changed from arcadeitalia to mamedb to see if there would be a difference. Thank all for helps cuz this thing is the shit!!!

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                        swim0311
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                        Same thing still. Neo geo and arcade has video files in them; however, they will only play if I turn off OMX Player. Anyone know why this is happening?

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                          pjft @swim0311
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                          @swim0311 as I said: get a program like handbrake and bulk re encode them. It's likely that whoever encoded the arcade videos - or even the software used for it - saves them at an encoding OMX player doesn't work with.

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                            barrymossel
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                            I am going on vacation today, but if I find the time I will test those videos.

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                              gaavoid @swim0311
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                              @swim0311 The ones I download from screenscraper work fine for the most part (had to switch out a couple that I replaced from emumovies).
                              I get better results overall from screenscraper than any other source using sselph's scraper. I then rescraped from the other sources to get a few of the ones not found on screenscraper.

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                                barrymossel
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                                This one doesn't work (which was scraped):
                                Nope

                                After I run it through Handbrake it works:
                                Yay

                                Only significant change is the "Planar 4:4:4 YUV" vs. "Planar 4:2:0 YUV" which apparantly is the color space. Can't seem to find anything regarding that though.

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                                  pjft
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                                  https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=940721&sid=6f356ce9739689d2dc4d26f6d33b9d2b#p940721

                                  "If I've interpreted that correctly, that is "High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile (Hi444PP, 244)" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC) - use avprobe or similar to confirm.
                                  Only Base, Main, and High profiles are supported."

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                                    barrymossel
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                                    Ah ok, thanks!

                                    I guess "high 4:4:4" isn't "high profile" apparantly. Didn't find that naming really clear.

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                                      pjft @barrymossel
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                                      @barrymossel not a bother! I spent a lot of time going through that myself, hence the answers.

                                      I should add that to a wiki page whenever I get the chance to put something together for the video stuff.

                                      Thanks for checking.

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                                        theWinterDojer @pjft
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                                        @pjft Is OMX on by default?

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                                          pjft @theWinterDojer
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                                          @thewinterdojer no. It certainly shouldn't, at least - if it is it's a bug.

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                                            pjft
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                                            @barrymossel

                                            Just a note on this. I happened to find I still had a few videos in my library that weren't rendering, so I had to convert them.

                                            The common item on them was the following, from MediaInfo:

                                            Writing application                      : Lavf54.20.4
                                            Comment                                  : Created with: Mame version 0.162,  / Played by: adolfo69,  / Game name: rbff1 - Real Bout Fatal Fury / Real Bout Garou Densetsu (NGM-095)(NGH-095),  / Date game played: 21 giugno 2015,  / Date video creation: 6 novembre 2015,  / Type: shortplay single-screen,  / Manufacturer: SNK,  / Display resolution: 320x224px,  / Link for info: http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/?mame=rbff1,  / Copyright (C) - All rights reserved - Tutti i marchi e loghi appartengono ai rispettivi proprietari
                                            

                                            So, I'm led to believe that these arcade videos were created via the in-MAME video capture, which apparently is/was set up to encode and store the videos at that particular profile, at least for the videos that don't work, which explains why it's mostly on the MAME (arcade, NeoGeo) videos that this manifests itself.

                                            Not on all, though, but worth noting that.

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