MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates

MrJordaaany

@dankcushions Awesome updates, will update when I get of work :)

MrJordaaany

@dankcushions When this update says 'sound distortion' fixed for Mortal Kombat 2 and 3. Does it mean how the games are really quiet? I've updated but no difference this end.

dankcushions

@mrjordaaany said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

@dankcushions When this update says 'sound distortion' fixed for Mortal Kombat 2 and 3. Does it mean how the games are really quiet? I've updated but no difference this end.

no - the horrid distortion and delay that previously happened after ~10 mins of play. volume can be easily adjusted via the service menu: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#service-menu

GreenHawk84

@mrjordaaany that will never change, the games were designed with a starting volume. You have to adjust that on the actual game options.

MrJordaaany

@dankcushions @GreenHawk84 ah I see. Thanks for the info.

UDb23

@dankcushions said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

this fix was also funded by @GreenHawk84 and @vince-geekcore

Is it possible to request specific fixes to the libretro team by funding ? How?
As you may remember I'd like to have sounds in Deep Scan (Invinco/Deep Scan dual game).
For a Mame developer it shouldn't be complicated.

Thank you all for making lr-mame2003 better and better!

pjft

@udb23 have you tested it in MAME 2010 or AdvMame?

dankcushions

@udb23 we use www.bountysource.com to post bounties on github issues. this one was fixed by a developer new to libretro, i believe. the power of open source!

however, i think your issue would only be viable if it's working in MAME 0.78 standalone (like the mk2/3 issue was). i think if it isn't, then you're better finding out which version of MAME it does work, first.

UDb23

@pjft According to mameinfo.dat sounds are still not implemented in mame driver. It should/could use samples from "Depth Charge".

pjft

@udb23 I suppose I was kind of getting at what @dankcushions suggests. If you find a version of MAME where it works, maybe someone will try to backport it. But if it's not available anywhere, that'd be harder.

UDb23

@dankcushions Understood thanks. Did more checking and unfortunately it seems Deep Scan still has no sound even in latest mame. The fact is that vicdual machines had same mainboard but different specific soundboards.
On the other hand recently support for sound daughterboard in N-sub (another vicdual rom) has been added. I posted a comment on that github commit (here) requesting if this could help also for getting sounds in Deep Scan. If anybody wants to request it too there, maybe it can help ;-)

caver01

@udb23 I am thinking maybe the best value in this kind of request would be to try to fix the root cause of the Service Mode issue—games like Sarge, Xenophobe, Rampage and a bunch of others that just stall at launch. I suspect there is some common cause (underlying original hardware similarities?). May it is already being tracked—but this would give us a bunch of games that we wouldn’t have to setup with other emulators.

darknior

WOAW so cool to found some one working on MAME 2003 for PI (and PC)
It is one of the best emulator ever :)
On xBox 1, with a 700Ghz proc and 64 Mo RAM we can play so many games, why not on PI lol

On xBox Mr gamezfan help by IQ_132 update our MAME 2003 with many code and drivers take on the last PC MAME versions ... to have more games fixed and 100% playable and some new one, always on the old MAME core faster on old machines :)

Maybe, i think it is a good idea, you can speak with him and watch his code, compare with yours, to upgrade PI version like the xBox version. The best one i think for light computers.
If i remember fine, it is based on MameDox that is a fork of MAME 0.84.

http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=5732
The project began in 2013 ...
http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=181&t=3349

xBox Emulator & Source Code : 209 Mo
https://www.mediafire.com/file/wi9b92c88dofl2d/MAMEoXtras Final.7z

dankcushions

@darknior mame 0.78 has an x86 dynarec for the MIPS cpu used by killer instinct, so it already runs much quicker on x86 hardware (eg a PC, or the original xbox). pi systems have an ARM cpu, and there is no dynarec for that. their code is not helpful here - i've already looked at it.

darknior

@dankcushions Ok i understand it will not help for the CPU because it is not an ARM one for sure.
But it can help you to take fix for games, and drivers updates adapted for an old MAME. IQ_132 work hard a lot for it ...
I think it is a good idea ... or maybe not :p

darknior

So news updates to come :)
https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/pull/109

markwkidd

@darknior could you mention any specific games that this fork of MAME is better at than mame2003? That would be a more helpful starting point :D

darknior

@markwkidd I don't have test all the games myself ... and for the moment we use LR-FBA & MAME 2003 :p :(
My friend select FBA for most of games, and they are working fine.
But we will change ROMSET and settings to use more time MAME 2003. I love to have the CHEAT option for my little children, it is very important because if not, it is so hard and they can't play many games :(
And in MAME 2003 we also have an INPUT menu to configure PAD for each games.

I try Undercover cops : A game i love, on FBA the sound is crappy, on MAME 2010 it is better, but it is only perfect on MAME 2003 !

But my friend began again to test all the arcade games one by one to make a new working pack for our project. He will try to use most of time with the MAME 2010 version :)
Like he tell me, the guy of Happy game center write that 2010 version is the best one on PI.

But you must correct some games like Undercover Cops, and add the CHEAT and INPUT menu to make it perfect.

Mame 2003 was 0.78 version.
I'm not sure the xBox version was maybe the 0.84
The Mame 2010 version is the 0.139
Gals panic S & S2 ... : I try them on PI and nothing work with FBA, MAME 2003 & 2010, on xBox they fix these games some years ago ;)

Adding fixing more than 150 games on xBox MAME : The best ever version for little computers.

9 Ball Shootout (Now Playable)
9 Ball Shootout championship Edition
A.B. Cop (Now Playable)
Action Fighter (Now Playable)
Action Hollywood
Added Sound for all the Rock' N Games
Added Sound to Fire Barrel and Air Assault 
Air Rescue (Now Playable)
Alien Storm official version (Now Playable)
Arm Champs 2
Asura Buster
Battle Balls (Now Playable)
Battle Shark Joystick Version (Game Controls Perfectly Now)
Beast Busters (Now Fully Playable)
Billiard Academy Real Break Euro Version (Now Playable)
Bloxeed (Now Playable)
B-Rap Boys (Rollercoaster graphics bug fixed)
Bullet (Now Playable)
Chase Bombers (Now Playable)
Clutch Hitter (Now Playble)
Cotton (Now Playable)
Crystal Castles (Joystick Version)
Cute Fighters
Daikaiju no Gyakushu (Now Playable)
DD Crew (Now Playable)
Denjin Makai (Now Playable)
Desert Breaker (Now Playble)
Donkey Kong Rainbow Edition (Now Playable)
Double Wings
Downtown Joystick version
Dragon Ball-Z VRVS (Now Playable)
Dragon World (Now Has Full Sound)
Dunk Shot (Now Playable)
Dyna Gear slowdown issues fixed
Dynamite Dux official version (Now Playable)
Eagle Shot Golf (Now Playable)
E-SWAT Cyber Police official version (Now Playable)
Excelsior
Fantasy Zone II (Now Playable)
Fantasy Zone Time Attack Bootleg (Now Playable)
Fire Barrel 
Fire Shark (Now With Proper Sound)
Fixed the random crashes in Gun Master (Game Now Fully Playable)
Galaxy Force 2 (Now Playable)
Gals Panic S3 (Now Playable)
Gauntlet 2 (World 4 player Version)
Ghox Joystick Version
Glass (Now Playable)
G-LOC Air Battle (Now Playable)
Great Sluggers 94 (Now Has Sound)
Guerrilla War Joystick Version
Guts N Glory (Now Playable)
Hangzo (Now Playable)
Hard Times 
Heavy Smash
Hot Mind
Hyper Crash
Ikari 3 The Rescue (Joystick Version)
Ikari Warriors Joystick Version
International Team Laser (Now Playable)
Joshi Volleyball (Now Playable)
Kabuki-Z
Laser Ghost (Now Playable)
Led Storm Rally 2011 (Now Playable)
Lethal Enforcers
Lethal Enforcers 2
Limited Edition Hang-On (Now Playable)
Line Of Fire (Now Playable)
Lord Of Gun (Now Playable No Sound)
Lucky N Wild (Now Playable)
Mach Breakers Numen Althletics 2 (Now Has Sound)
Michael Jackon's Moonwalker official version (Now Playable)
Midnight Resistance Joystick Bootleg Version (Now Playable)
Mobil Suit Gundam Final shooting (Now Playable)
Mouse Shooter GoGo
MVP (Now Playable)
Namco Classic Collection vol 2 (Now Playable)
Nebulas Ray (Now Has Sound)
Ninja Kazan (English version of Iga Ninjyutsuden)
Operation wolf 3 (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable)
Oriental Legend Special/Super (Now Playable)
Outfoxies (Now Has Sound)
Passing Shot (Official Version) (Now Playable)
Photo Y2K (Now Playable)
Planet Probe (Now Playable)
Playchoice-10 Baseball Stars Be A Champ
Playchoice-10 Mario's Open Golf
Playchoice-10 Metroid
Pocket Gal Deluxe
Point Blank (Now Has Sound)
Pop Bingo (Now Playable)
Power Drift (Now Playable)
Power Instinct 2 (USA Version)
Power Instinct Legends (USA Version)
Puzzle Stars (Now Playable)
Rabbit
Racing Beat
Racing Hero (Now Playable)
Raiden Fighters (Now Playable)
Raiden Fighters 1 2 Jet Single Board Versions (Now Playable)
Raiden Fighters 1 Single Board Version (Now Playable)
Raiden Fighters 2 (Now Playable)
Raiden Fighters 2 2000
Raiden Fighters jet (Now Playable)
Raiden Fighters Jet 2000
Rail Chase (Now Playable)
Raimais (World Version)
Rapid Hero (Now Has Full Sound)
Real & Fake (Now Playable)
Road Riot 4WD (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable)
Rock' N 3 
Rock' N 4 
Rock' N Tread 2 
Rolling Crush
Round Up 5 Super Delta Force
Sand Scorpion
Schmeiser Robo (Now Playable)
Sexy Parodius English Version (Now Playable)
Solitary Fighter (Now Playable)
Star Wars Arcade (Now Somewhat Playable)
Storm Blade (Bad graphics on levels 2-6 fixed)
Strike Fighter (Now Playble)
Super Bishi Bashi Championship
Super Hang-On (Official Version) (Now Playable)
Super Monaco GP (Now Playable) (Some GFX Niggles)
Super Qix official version (Now Playable)
Super World Court (English Language World Version)
Teeter Torture (Now Playable)
The New Zealand Story (New Rom Versions)
Thunder Blade (Now Playable)
Thunder Strike (Now Playable)
Title Fight (USA Version)
Top Blade V (Now Playable)
Tough Turf (Now Playable )
Turbo Outrun (Now Playable With Some GFX Issues)
Turbo Outrun (Now Playable)
UFO Senshi Yohko chan (Now Playable)
Ultra-X Weapons (Bad graphics on all levels fixed)
Undercover Cops Alpha Renewal Version (Now Playable)
Vimana (Now With Proper Sound)
Violence Fight (Now Playable)
Viper Phase 1 (Now Playable)
Virtua Bowling (Now Playable)
Where's Wally (Now Playable)
Wing Force (Now Playable)
Wing War (Now Playable)
Wonder Boy In Monsterland (Official Sega English Version Now Playable)
...

Here are ALL the games added and correct on each release :

Final release : https://jpst.it/13PT-
MAMEoXtras v1.20.u3 Released : https://jpst.it/13Qbm
MAMEoXtras v1.20.u2 : https://jpst.it/13QsD
MAMEoXtras v1.19 : https://jpst.it/13Qw5
MAMEoXtras v1.18 : https://jpst.it/13Qwq
MameoXtras v1.17 : https://jpst.it/13QwN
MAMEoXtras v1.16 : https://jpst.it/13QwZ
MameoXtras v1.15 : https://jpst.it/13Qx8
MameoXtras v1.14 : https://jpst.it/13Qx9
MameoXtras v1.13 : https://jpst.it/13Qy4
MameoXtras v1.12 : https://jpst.it/13Qyg
...
http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=MAMEoXtras+Released&fid[]=181&sf=titleonly&start=10
...
MameOxtras v1.1 : https://jpst.it/13QyC
MAMEoXtras v1.0 : https://jpst.it/13QyX

The 1.0 version with Darius screen fix etc ... was so fantastic, we don't have that on PI :(

maxbeanz

@darknior The only thing with lr-mame2010 is that all vertical games display at the wrong ratio (stretched) and the only way to correct it is from the Retroarch menu. I also like mame2010 because a lot of analogue games can be easily played with a d-pad, and a few games have joystick versions. Because mame2003 works well for most games no-one is going to bother to improve mame2010 (unless a Pi 4 is released maybe). FinalBurn doesn't care about accuracy so a few of the games play too fast (double dragon plays like it's 2x speed for example), and some games play slower than mame2003.

darknior

@maxbeanz Thanks for your answer. If i understand fine, for you :

At the moment on PI3 the best MAME to use is 2003 (0.78) !
Because it works well for most games :)
FBA is not accuracy and we must use it only for some games that not working on MAME 2003.
I use it for Neogeo with Universal BIOS and it works very fine, what do you think about that ?
MAME 2010: It show vertical games at wrong ratio but we can fix it, it is not a reason to like it ?
.................... It is best for games with analogue control to play with them DPad. Mame 2003 don't ? Have you a list of these games i'm interested. Like you speak about games with joystick ...

So bad no one want to update MAME 2010 to make works more games like on xBox, or update MAME 2003 drivers ... i know it is some work to do it, but it is not like creating a new emulator from scratch.
@gamez fan always write he don't know code, and only COPY PASTE drivers from other sources ... and when it is so hard IQ_132 help him :)

Like you write we can stand, and i stand for the PI4 lol
More powerfull for 3DO, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, PSP ... and arcade games.
Maybe it will help to found some one to upgrade MAME 2010 but it is not sure :(

@markwkidd are my informations help you ?

@dankcushions You write me Mame 0.78 has an x86 dybarec for MIPS CPU used by some games ...
Nobody never code one for ARM on any MAME version ?