Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?

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@hex m3g is the Mobile 3D Graphics API from JSR 184. Some later games used this, like The Sims 3 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

Allanbuzzy

Would the N-Gage use the same architecture as J2ME? I saw a video that showed a N-Gage game playing on a Nokia N70 using emulation.

Stuart2773

@allanbuzzy

from what i can remember from owning an n70, n95 & ngage back in the day, im sure they were symbian based,

cant wait to try this when its ready, so glad i kept a backup of all the java/ngage games i must have in the region of about 1000 for various mobile devices.

N.A.R.E.K.96

I would like to play old cell phone games and also game for Nokia N-Gage they were great!

Hex

J2ME is not symbian emulator. So no you cannot play symbian games.

@recompile I have different pixel interpolation methods while scaling. Would you be interested in testing those out? We can expose this in config if necessary.

// Change this line. Valid values :  "nearest", "linear", "best"
SDL_SetHint(SDL_HINT_RENDER_SCALE_QUALITY, "nearest");
// Linear is pixelated, no interpolation
// Linear is Bilinear interpolation
// Best is anisotropic interpolation

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@allanbuzzy said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:

Would the N-Gage use the same architecture as J2ME?

The N-Gage could run j2me games, but the few N-Gage specific games I have are all Symbian native. From what I remember, however, there weren't too many exclusive games released for the short-lived console. Asphalt Urban GT and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, for example, saw both j2me and Symbian releases, though the j2me releases often supported higher resolutions than the 176x208 you got on the N-Gage.

For j2me games made for Nokia phones or the N-Gage, I've already added full support for the Nokia UI API.

Allanbuzzy

@recompile said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:

@allanbuzzy said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:

Would the N-Gage use the same architecture as J2ME?

The N-Gage could run j2me games, but the few N-Gage specific games I have are all Symbian native. From what I remember, however, there weren't too many exclusive games released for the short-lived console. Asphalt Urban GT and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, for example, saw both j2me and Symbian releases, though the j2me releases often supported higher resolutions than the 176x208 you got on the N-Gage.

For j2me games made for Nokia phones or the N-Gage, I've already added full support for the Nokia UI API.

So N-Gage is supported? Awesome, that's good.

Hex

@Allanbuzzy I dont think he is saying that. Symbian deppends on Nokia UI, J2ME depends on Nokia UI. @recompile has added full support for Nokia UI.

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@hex Sure. I can pass it to C as an additional parameter. From the command line, I'll accept: jar | jar width height | jar filter | jar width height filter but always pass C width height filter

Defaults are 240 320 nearest, but C doesn't need to know that.
http://drichardson-shared.s3.amazonaws.com/freej2me-rpi.jar

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@allanbuzzy said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:

So N-Gage is supported? Awesome, that's good.

Let me try that again. The N-Gage could run j2me and Symbian games. This project will only support j2me games. Symbian games will not work. Nokia had their own special api for games, which is fully supported, so j2me games written for the N-Gage will work. Again, Symbian games written for the N-Gage will not work.

Hex

@recompile I have updated the C source to add support for interpolation/filter type .

J doenst need to pass default (nearest) if not user specified. I can handle that in C

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@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:

J doenst need to pass default (nearest) if not user specified. I can handle that in C

I know, but it's simpler for me to always pass something than to only pass it sometimes. I figured it would be simpler for you, as you can always expect 3 arguments. I like simple.

Hex

@recompile Will you be available for an hour or so for Gamepad testing?

Do I need to support multiple gamepads or a single gamepad would suffice.

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@hex One should be enough. I don't know of any two-player simultaneous games for old cellphones.

I'll be around for testing.

Hex

@recompile I have added gamepad support. Can you test it.

Analog Joystick data is ignored.

Allanbuzzy

I would've liked the idea of N-Gage emulation, but oh well I hope someone writes a Symbian emulator.

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@hex I'm not getting anything from either gamepad.

Hex

@recompile I got a gamepad from a friend for testing. I think I am missing something in initialization. I will let you know once I start getting it working.

Hex

@recompile I did a bit of digging and got all the keys to be recognized.

The Buttons LR StSl ABXY all generate button events which I can detect and send like keyboard events. We will need to differentiate them from keyboard values.

The Dpad on the other hand generates 2 data points. One tells if it is horizontal or vertical and another tells me if its Left/Top or Right/Bottom or Center (Released).

How do you want me to send over this data?

EDIT : I have updated C source so you can test which events are generated (O/p in string for testing).
run the sdl_interface directly sdl_interface 1 1 nearest
change focus to C while terminal set to keep on top to observe events. To exit Ctrl+C in terminal.

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@hex We can use the event type flag to differentiate keyboard and gamepad events. we can, for example, use 2 and 3 instead of 0 and 1 for released/pressed.

We can also abstract the dpad weirdness, if you want, by tracking which direction is pressed, and sending a corresponding released event when the state changes. Alternately, you can send a different event type, say 4, packed with the current dpad state and I can track it on the J side and generate the proper key events.

On the C side, do you already know which events correspond to LR StSl ABXY or can you get them from retroarch or libretro?