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[Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread

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    Aphex
    last edited by 11 Sept 2017, 06:55

    I tried to give the Amiberry + WHDLoad combo a shot and managed to get my hands on some auto-install scrips that allows you to automatically create .uae config file of each of your games, with folders for standard games, AGA, CD32, etc.. It does work nice for some games, but also fails for some others. I've found a romset with its specific .uae config file set but like @maxbeanz pointed out, it might be an outdated pack. Still i feel very enthusiast about it since it does provide a fast "1-click to play" solution right from the ES menu, with a ready-to-scrape list.

    Now i just have to find that better pack :)

    Whenever the best solution has been found (or the best middle-ground, i mean), a step-by-step tutorial video might be VERY helpful for non-expert users like my sorry-self.

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      maxbeanz @Aphex
      last edited by maxbeanz 9 Nov 2017, 10:40 11 Sept 2017, 09:34

      @aphex said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail:

      Still i feel very enthusiast about it since it does provide a fast "1-click to play" solution

      Did you know that you can start ADF games from the ES menu with 1-click ? Multi disk games are a bit hit or miss though. I like using ADF's as that was the original back in the day. Hardly anyone had HardDrives and WHDLoad wasn't even invented, and nearly all ADF games have a trainer cheat menu ! There are tons of games that I had about 25 years ago that I never even got past the second level (but never bothered cheating at the time because I had better things to do) !

      At the end of the day the Amiga is a computer so you should really use/need a keyboard. CD32 games would be best for a Joypad only experience but currently custom controls on Amiberry don't work and it's only hacked to use a PS3 controller. 'RecalBox' has a fully working CD32 addon with working controls.

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        Aphex
        last edited by 11 Sept 2017, 11:31

        @maxbeanz I meant "1-click to play" as a quick way to launch a game without having to bother setting up the amiga emulator for each games, not as in a keyboard-less setup :) I just thought having a .uae config file to automatically set up the emulator with best/optimized settings to be quite a plus.

        I did try games in .adf format but i couldn't manage any of them to work. Now it was my first attempt at Amiga on Retropie back then and i think i my kickroms weren't in the right folders or something else i missed, i don't know. All i had was either black screens or that floppy loading screen.

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          nemo93
          last edited by nemo93 11 Sept 2017, 17:43

          @Aphex please find below some example files that I do use as templates for all my games. Here we go...

          1. to be used for any WHDLoad package/game that uses OCS/ECS and joystick as controller (eg. Battle Squadron, Speedball2 and many other games)
            => uae file

          2. for any WHDLoad package/game that uses AGA and joystick as controller (eg. Chaos Engine 1&2, Alien Breed2, etc.)
            => uae file

          3. for any WHDLoad package/game that uses OCS/ECS and mouse as controller (eg. Syndicate, MegaloMania, Cannon Fodder 1 & 2, etc.)
            => uae file

          Just make sure to set the proper paths in those files to match your actual setup.

          For the sake of accuracy below the parameters and value to set in the uae files depending on the chipset and controller type you want to emulate. The following settings are the most compatible I've found.

          Those settings should work for most games either ECS or AGA:

          ; Display / Screen Setup
          gfx_framerate=0
          gfx_width=640
          gfx_height=256
          gfx_width_windowed=320
          gfx_height_windowed=240
          gfx_width_fullscreen=640
          gfx_height_fullscreen=480
          gfx_lores=false
          gfx_resolution=hires
          gfx_correct_aspect=False
          ntsc=False
          
          ; CPU options
          cpu_type=68020
          cpu_speed=real
          finegrain_cpu_speed=1024
          ;cpu_model=<<cpumodel>>
          cpu_compatible=False
          cpu_24bit_addressing=True
          cachesize=0
          cpu_cycle_exact=True
          
          ; Memory 
          a1000ram=false
          chipmem_size=4
          bogomem_size=0
          fastmem_size=4
          z3mem_size=0
          z3mem_start=0x1000000
          
          ; Chipset 
          chipset=aga
          chipset_refreshrate=0.000000
          collision_level=playfields
          fast_copper=False
          immediate_blits=False
          
          rtg_nocustom=true
          rtg_modes=0x502
          gfxcard_size=0
          gfxcard_type=ZorroIII
          
          ; Misc
          bsdsocket_emu=False
          show_leds=false
          kbd_led_num=-1
          kbd_led_scr=-1
          kbd_led_cap=-1
          
          ; Sound
          sound_output=exact
          sound_channels=stereo
          sound_stereo_separation=3
          sound_stereo_mixing_delay=0
          sound_frequency=44100
          sound_interpol=none
          sound_filter=off
          sound_filter_type=standard
          sound_volume_cd=20
          sound_auto=yes
          synchronize_clock=yes
          

          @maxbeanz: you're absolutely right regarding Barbarian (Palace version... what a game!!). I've added it to my bug report on Github. To be honest, it's the first game running at too high speed to be playable that I've been able to see. As I wrote earlier I've tested something like 130+ games, all running fine. If you have other good cases please let me know or feel free to add them to Github as Midwan is closely watching for it.

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            ballboff @nemo93
            last edited by 11 Sept 2017, 20:34

            @nemo93 Hey thanks for your advice. However, I couldn't get this to work as when I loaded up jstest every button I pressed came up with a letter as it thinks I have a keyboard attached. So my buttons are 7, 9, z and 1, and then h, 0, x and 5. 1 and 5 are start and select, 7,9 and z are a, b and c.

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              Aphex @nemo93
              last edited by 12 Sept 2017, 12:24

              @nemo93 Wow, thanks for that! I'm gonna try those config files this week and let you know!

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                ballboff
                last edited by 12 Sept 2017, 20:58

                I feel like i'm getting closer. I've created a config file for alfred chicken. When I load this up in notepad it says that button a is 61 and button b is 63. These are equals and question mark according to the reference file. However, when I press page up (or down I can't remember) that seems to be my fire button A?! Escape quits back to the menu and space takes me into the options menu.

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                  Aphex @nemo93
                  last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 20:44

                  @nemo93 I checked your settings and applied them, yet i still have problems with the same games. For exemple, try Dune if you have it. It's just stuck on a black screen as soon as i launch it :/ If yours is working, then maybe my problems are rom-related?

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                    nemo93
                    last edited by nemo93 13 Sept 2017, 21:59

                    @Aphex Dune does run fine (as well as Dune 2, both are amazing btw!). I'm using version 2.5 (29.01.14), which is the latest version as of typing. I'm using the french version and I don't even have the famous intro bug as described here (see notes bottom of the page). If you're using any other langage version there should be no problem whatsoever. Try to have a look at the file created during launch process and named after whdscript_debug, open it with a text editor. Sometimes there are useful info about why the game didn't start or launch.

                    The uae file I'm using is there yet it's no different from the settings shared earlier. Make sure you also have a copy of the kickstart roms in this folder as described in my first post <RETROPIE>/roms/amiga-data/_BootWHD/Devs/Kickstarts/ (where there are a bunch of *RTB files).

                    @ballboff I'm really sorry but I have no idea what you mean by "keyboard encoder". At this stage, I can only direct you to the Github page of Amiberry where you could log an entry to find a solution to your problem (if you do so make sure to share useful and detailed info about the hardware you're using as well as your current setup).

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                      ballboff
                      last edited by 14 Sept 2017, 17:01

                      @nemo93 I'm using an arcade setup. Just assume for arguments sake i'm using a usb keyboard because that's essentially what the pi recognises it as. My settings are hardcoded to use page down as fire button A and I think button B is something like the home button.

                      Whatever I set the controls to within the settings of the emulator itself it ignores these settings. This means I can't seem to change the controls. I need fire button A to be mapped to keyboard button 7 and I need button B to be mapped to keyboard button 9

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                        Aphex @nemo93
                        last edited by 24 Sept 2017, 19:41

                        @nemo93 Sorry for the late reply but it took me a while to figure a few things out. You suggested to check thewhdscript_debugfile and it was indeed a good place to stard since the debug file was repeating the linesDOS-Error #205 (object not found) on reading "devs:kickstarts/kick34005.a500". So i went on to check and compare folders and files of different working RetroPie setups i've found online...

                        I checked that/Devs/Kickstarts/folder and it turned out there was a few file size difference between the kickroms of my setup and the working ones. So i replaced them with the ones from the working setup (still wouldn't work), then i replaced the files from the/amiga-data/_BootWDHfolder (still wouldn't work), then replaced the game files (actually, only the auto-startupfile was different). And now it worked!

                        tldr version: my kickrom files, WDHLoader files and some configuration files were different, even though the project source i've got them from was all about proposing a fully working archive paired with configuration files...

                        I think i'm gonna start everything over from scratch with the latest version of Amiberry and make sure i have all the right files.

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                        • AndersHPA
                          AndersHP @ballboff
                          last edited by 27 Sept 2017, 13:05

                          @ballboff I'm on an arcade setup also, with my buttons acting like keyboard presses. Before I dive into this Amiga Emulation, I have to be positive that there's a way to map game buttons to specific keyboard buttons. Seems like this is still not possible?

                          My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                          My Gameboy

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                            ballboff @AndersHP
                            last edited by 27 Sept 2017, 17:50

                            @andershp I've seen on the github page they are still working on it. I'm not sure if uae4arm is capable of this as I have seen if you name the disks disk 1 of 2 etc it will autoinsert all the disks needed and no disk swap us required. Meaning you don't need the whd setup that amiberry uses

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                              nemo93
                              last edited by 4 Oct 2017, 20:06

                              Folks, just to keep this thread active I'm glad to inform you that Midwan has returned and he's working on updating Amiberry. You could see that by yourself by checking the dedicated github page I've mentioned earlier. Stay tuned and keep posting feedbacks!

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                                H3RBSKI
                                last edited by 14 Oct 2017, 01:02

                                @nemo93 thanks for the reply in my thread about amiberry not showing in my list.
                                i followed the steps in your reply but still no joy:( its driving me mad. any other suggestions are great

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                                • HoraceAndSpiderH
                                  HoraceAndSpider
                                  last edited by 14 Oct 2017, 06:46

                                  Just to pick up a few points in this thread...

                                  Many of the games which run too fast could be fixed for everyone if the fixed setting (slower cpu speed) was submitted to the UAE Config Maker GitHub for the specific game ;)

                                  Regarding "out of date" slaves the UAE Config Maker will have auto-slave updating added to it in the future(if anyone has a python script capable to unpacking LHA files,ideally universally, then this could be addressed very quickly!)

                                  At the moment I am working with the Amiberry primary dev (midwan) and I am adding lots of new elements into the controls section, including more universal (retroarch) controller mapping and game-specific custom control mapping. There are videos online of this if you want to see it in action, and a GitHub branch of Amiberry for you to find for yourselves :)

                                  Lots of winuae codebase changes are coming in the next Amiberry release which will hopefully improve compatibility and the stabilisation of speed issues is something that is being looked at. On a related note the uae4arm pandora dev has been directly contributing to Amiberry also.

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                                  • HoraceAndSpiderH
                                    HoraceAndSpider @AndersHP
                                    last edited by 14 Oct 2017, 06:50

                                    @andershp next version of Amiberry has cursors and other buttons used for cd32 layout mapping ro the keyboard.

                                    I am going to look at how to make this remappable to other keys (at user preference) also but this might be 2 releases away.

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                                    • HoraceAndSpiderH
                                      HoraceAndSpider
                                      last edited by 14 Oct 2017, 13:14

                                      @administrators hopefully there is no problem with the links being provided to the guide anymore following this announcement, and the changes to the parent site that have been implemented today:

                                      http://www.ultimateamiga.co.uk/index.php/topic,10013.0.html

                                      I have also emailed @BuZz to explain the situation in detail, as I am hoping this will help in having more active involvement with the 'WHDLoad for RetroPie' project directly with this forum, without the need for you guys having to worry about copyright issues.

                                      @nemo93 are you on the Facebook support group? It sounds like your input could be quite useful

                                      @Aphex if you have issues getting configs created for any games which you obtain, please speak to me so that i can resolve the issues. :)

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                                        nemo93
                                        last edited by 15 Oct 2017, 11:05

                                        Many thanks @HoraceAndSpider, truly awesome and fantastic to read you here :) Unfortunately I'm not on Facebook. Yet I'll be glad to help or assist any way I could as I have some spare time these days. That's why I did my best to answer any questions about Amiberry/WHD on this forum lately. Let me know how I could help you and Midwan. I have no dev knowledge so all I could do is to test games/roms and provide feedbacks as I did already on the Amiberry's github page as well as helping others to configure their Retropie.

                                        @H3RBSKI: thanks to @HoraceAndSpider we could now safely share this ultimate guide here without breaking any forum rules. Everything is explained in great details and this is basically the one I've followed the first time to install and configure Retropie on my Pi3. Focus on Step 2 where it's explained how to make Amiberry to appear in EmulationStation. If you still got issue let us know.

                                        Can't wait to put my hands on Amiberry newest version ;)

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                                        • AndersHPA
                                          AndersHP
                                          last edited by 15 Oct 2017, 13:12

                                          Following this with great interest. I have an original Amiga 1200 with registered WHDLoad installed, but I'd really love to have my Amiga games available on my bartop arcade also. Especially shooters and pinball games will be awesome!

                                          My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                          My Gameboy

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