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    Powering off via UI while using a Mausberry Circuit

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    • cyperghostC
      cyperghost
      last edited by cyperghost

      @caver01 I'm pretty sure that a normally opened ssr works together with a momentary switch!

      Annother suggestion. I think if we use a normally closed SSR and connect it to the $GPIOPin2 so there is no current as long as the Pie is active. But if is inactive it would close the reset pads of the mausberry... do you think that may work?

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      • cyperghostC
        cyperghost @cyperghost
        last edited by cyperghost

        Some "improvments" to the original script! It might be a bit faster as there is no if-then-else....

        #!/bin/bash
        #this is the GPIO pin connected to the lead on switch labeled OUT
        GPIOpin1=23
        
        #this is the GPIO pin connected to the lead on switch labeled IN
        GPIOpin2=24
        
        echo "$GPIOpin1" > /sys/class/gpio/export
        echo "in" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin1/direction
        echo "$GPIOpin2" > /sys/class/gpio/export
        echo "out" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin2/direction
        echo "1" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin2/value
        power=$(cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin1/value)
        
        until [ $power = 1 ]; do
            power=$(cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin1/value)
            sleep 1
        done
        
        [ $power = 1 ]  && echo "Shutdown now!" && poweroff
        
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        • caver01C
          caver01 @cyperghost
          last edited by

          @cyperghost
          Nice.

          I used to use a python script that did edge detection. I was led to believe that keeping a python script active in the background would be even less of a CPU burden than a polling bash script. But I changed to the bash script you helped build when I saw the better commands. It would be nice to convert it to python.

          My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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          • cyperghostC
            cyperghost @caver01
            last edited by

            @caver01 can you post python code please?
            I think python is the better choice - if you enable IRQ mode, then it's the fastest alternative ;)
            But the old bash script looked a bit weird so I made it a bit cleaner looking

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            • caver01C
              caver01 @cyperghost
              last edited by

              @cyperghost I will post it later when I am back to my Pi.

              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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              • cyperghostC
                cyperghost
                last edited by cyperghost

                @caver01 I will be online in a few hours again. At work I asked a colleague (circuit designer) how this issue can be solved. It's possible to switch the event just via a transistor - but I forget which type ... I think N-type, but you need some resistors (at lease one at base) and best a diode (for current switchbacks) the make sure switch behaviour.

                On the other hand he said, that the optical-mosfet is also a nice method to trigger that and it's really fail safe as the circuits are isolated.

                Then I asked the method with the reset trigger... Clear answer: NO! A reset is a reset as you don't know what there really happens. It can be named as "emergency exit" if the µc is trapped but never should be used as regular switch.

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                • caver01C
                  caver01 @cyperghost
                  last edited by

                  @cyperghost I am glad you confirmed the transistor idea. I was actually going to try that first based on other things I have read. I believe I need to use an NPN transistor, and I have a bunch of them collected from old hardware. Here is an example where someone is using a transistor to trigger a button press for a camera trigger. The SSR is suggested first, but someone concludes that a transistor method would be adequate.

                  Most discussions elsewhere online regarding this topic mention the use of the opto-coupler SSR as a safer method, as it isolates both sides and you don't have to worry about linking the grounds. However, I am not that worried about isolation, and I won't have to buy anything to try it.

                  I didn't get a chance to lookup my python script last night. I will post something soon, and I will definitely try the transistor trick.

                  My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                  • cyperghostC
                    cyperghost @caver01
                    last edited by

                    @caver01 Thank you for the linked document with the transistor. As you use the same potential there should be no drawbacks with connecting the Pie and the mausberry.

                    As said, the SSR is the easiest method at all.

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                    • caver01C
                      caver01 @cyperghost
                      last edited by

                      @cyperghost The only risk I see with the transistor here is if the momentary button wired to the Mausberry is not connected to ground on one of its poles. Maybe even that does not matter, but the diagrams I have seen including the one linked above has the emitter connected to ground that is common to both the switch and the Pi. I may look at the Mausberry circuit closely to see if I can trace one of the button terminals to ground. If not, I may just try it anyway.

                      My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                      • cyperghostC
                        cyperghost @caver01
                        last edited by

                        @caver01 Well take a voltmeter and measure switch pins against ground. I hope that there are 3.3V ;)

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                        • caver01C
                          caver01 @cyperghost
                          last edited by

                          @cyperghost Good idea!

                          My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                          • caver01C
                            caver01 @cyperghost
                            last edited by

                            @cyperghost well, that NPN transistor totally worked!

                            First, I modified my mausberry script by adding another variable for GPIOpin3 which I set to 18.
                            Then, I added two more echo lines to export the pin and to set its direction to OUT:

                            #!/bin/bash
                            
                            # need to call this from /etc/rc.local
                            
                            # End Emulationstation if condition of running binary is true (v1.59)
                            # v1.0 07/21/17 by cyperghost - Inital run 
                            # v1.1 07/22/17 - Added chown command to set right user permission for creating es-shutdown // cyperghost
                            # v1.2 07/23/17 - Some small improvments, easier to maintain, removed echo, removed else branch // cyperghost
                            # v1.5 07/27/17 - Great step to exit ES even if emulators is running by runcommand.sh are started // meleu
                            # v1.55 07/29/17 - all kudos go to @meleu for his alltime genious RegEx hack! // meleu
                            # v1.56 07/30/17 - All emulators will be detected. // meleu
                            # v1.58 08/02/17 - generel method: Use PPID to detect child PIDs now (ScummVM fix) // cyperghost
                            # v1.59 08/03/17 - nothing new, just polishing the code // meleu
                            # I just checked with SSH command - it saved my metadata! Maybe you need to extend sleeptimer!
                            # greetings @pjft for his famous favorits and @meleu for his RegEx sniplets and his constant help! 
                            
                            #this is the GPIO pin connected to the lead on switch labeled OUT
                            GPIOpin1=23
                            
                            #this is the GPIO pin connected to the lead on switch labeled IN
                            GPIOpin2=24
                            
                            #this is the GPIO pin connected to the 1k-ohm resistor, leading to the base of NPN transistor (emitter and collector to power switch poles)
                            GPIOpin3=18
                            
                            echo "$GPIOpin1" > /sys/class/gpio/export
                            echo "in" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin1/direction
                            echo "$GPIOpin2" > /sys/class/gpio/export
                            echo "out" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin2/direction
                            echo "1" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin2/value
                            echo "$GPIOpin3" > /sys/class/gpio/export
                            echo "out" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin3/direction
                            
                            
                            while true; do
                                power="$(cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio$GPIOpin1/value)"
                                if [[ "$power" == 0 ]]; then
                                    sleep 1
                                else
                                    emucall="$(sed -n 4p /dev/shm/runcommand.info | tr -d '\\"' | tr '^$[]*.()|+?{}' '.')"
                                    if [[ -n "$emucall" ]]; then
                                        emupid="$(pgrep -f "$emucall")" 
                                        pkill -P "$emupid"
                                        kill "$emupid"
                                        sleep 4
                                    fi    
                            
                                    espid="$(pgrep -f "/opt/retropie/supplementary/.*/emulationstation([^.]|$)")"
                                    if [[ -n "$espid" ]]; then
                                        touch /tmp/es-shutdown && chown pi:pi /tmp/es-shutdown
                                        kill "$espid"
                                        exit
                                    fi
                                    # End Emulationstation if condition of running binary is true
                            
                                    sudo poweroff
                                fi
                            done
                            

                            Finally, I added the line:
                            echo "1" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio18/value to the emulationstation.sh in place of the sudo poweroff in
                            that file.

                            I soldered up two components, an NPN transistor and a 1k-ohm resistor. The resistor goes on the middle pin of the transistor, and the outside pins go in parallel to the power switch connected to the mausberry. Then, on the opposite end of the resistor, I connected this to GPIO18 as specified in my updated script.

                            Now, when I select SHUTDOWN in the ES menu, it completely powers off.

                            Thanks for all of your help!

                            My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                            • caver01C
                              caver01
                              last edited by caver01

                              I am going to create a new thread for working on the Python version of the BASH script. I think that makes more sense than burying it here.

                              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                              • meleuM
                                meleu @caver01
                                last edited by

                                @caver01 said in Powering off via UI while using a Mausberry Circuit:

                                Finally, I added the line:
                                echo "1" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio18/value to the emulationstation.sh in place of the sudo poweroff in
                                that file.

                                I see a problem here. This line will be lost after the next EmulationStation update you do on your system.

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                                • cyperghostC
                                  cyperghost @meleu
                                  last edited by cyperghost

                                  @caver01
                                  Wow that's cool ;) Nice approach ....

                                  As @meleu already said.... on next update the script gots lost. Therefore I would modify the MB shutdown script and set the echo 1 command, before the exit command... maybe with a sleep 0.5. The side effect is, that the mausberry is only shutting down, if the emulationstation binary is running (cause of the if-clause)

                                  @meleu I finished GQ ;)
                                  @meleu What do you think about this shutdown-script here? It should be quicker than the original one.

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                                  • caver01C
                                    caver01 @meleu
                                    last edited by caver01

                                    @meleu Yes, it will. but what can I do?

                                    @cyperghost I don't see how changing the mausberry script will help with the soft shutdown in ES. meleu is saying that after the update, my ES will lose the custom shutdown I setup which triggers GPIOpin18. No matter what happens, ES updates will always revert to the normal shutdown, while I need it to trigger the pin. Nothing in the mausberry script will fix that. I will have to keep updating emulationstation.sh.

                                    My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                    • cyperghostC
                                      cyperghost @caver01
                                      last edited by cyperghost

                                      @caver01 No, you set the echo 1 in your mausberry between before the exit command sorry thats wrong!

                                              espid="$(pgrep -f "/opt/retropie/supplementary/.*/emulationstation([^.]|$)")"
                                              if [[ -n "$espid" ]]; then
                                                  touch /tmp/es-shutdown && chown pi:pi /tmp/es-shutdown
                                                  kill "$espid"
                                                  # Set here your echo command + && sleep 0.5
                                                  exit
                                              fi
                                              # End Emulationstation if condition of running binary is true
                                      
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                                      • meleuM
                                        meleu @cyperghost
                                        last edited by

                                        @meleu I finished GQ ;)

                                        Nice! Let's move to Snake Rattle 'n Roll. I'll just try to make some score for Time Pilot (MAME ROW #51).

                                        @meleu What do you think about this shutdown-script here? It should be quicker than the original one.

                                        Good catch at that logic! :-)

                                        @caver01 said in Powering off via UI while using a Mausberry Circuit:

                                        @meleu Yes, it will. but what can I do?

                                        Hold on a little. I'm taking a look into a nice way to do it. ;-)

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                                        • caver01C
                                          caver01 @cyperghost
                                          last edited by caver01

                                          @cyperghost Oh, does ES leave a trace in /tmp that a shutdown has been requested by the UI? That's clever. So the MB script will initiate shutdown if the button is pressed, and it will do the echo to the transistor if shutdown is requested by ES. Correct?

                                          Wait a sec, I still don't follow. I need to trigger the transistor when a shutdown is requested from within ES using the UI. I need to do this instead of a soft shutdown, otherwise, the MB circuit won't know that the shutdown has occurred.

                                          My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                          • cyperghostC
                                            cyperghost @caver01
                                            last edited by cyperghost

                                            @caver01 sorry edited this
                                            maybe @meleu gots a solution ... i know only the emulationstation path

                                            EDIT:
                                            Yes... for restart system, shutdown system and restart ES there are temp files named by the usecase

                                            and that's the way to prove ;) within the mausberry... you're right ;)
                                            My first attempt does not work as the loop is only triggered if the MB-button is pressed. But as it checks some file you can use this via [[ -f /tmp/es-shutdown ]] to do some things ;) I guess to use this check into the power = 0, do loop and to set power = 1... this will end the loop and the shutdown is initiated.

                                            But let @meleu look into... ;) He knows the system much better

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