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    [Solved] Trackball not working after 4.3 update

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    • Majin WamuM
      Majin Wamu @caver01
      last edited by

      @caver01 I have tried using a mouse as a substitute, and it wouldn't respond either. It is quite a disappointment.
      I am going to try to make that adjustment you mention about the "dialsharexy", I know for a fact I haven't ever checked that setting.
      To make sure nothing is wrong with my hardware, I flashed 4.2 on another SD card, and tested everything, and it works fine. The reason why I won't stick with it is because it doesn't have all the customization and settings as I do with my primary. Plus my primary is a 64 gb while the secondary is a 32 gb and I have plans to attach it to a cocktail cabinet. Plus my customization would take me a very long time to recover on the secondary.

      Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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      • caver01C
        caver01 @Majin Wamu
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        @majin-wamu sharexy will not fix your trackball. That is for splitting a single set of axes to player 1 and 2 for spinners in a game like Blasteroids.

        My question was whether you had more than one mouse device connected. On my system, my trackball works fine, but my spinners do not work anymore. I was expecting that it is only selecting the first mouse device and ignoring others.

        My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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        • Majin WamuM
          Majin Wamu @caver01
          last edited by

          @caver01 Oh sorry, I only have one trackball plugged in.
          Actually let me tell you everything I have plugged in:
          *USB hub, which has it's own adapter.
          *a mini-pac for the inputs
          *ultimarc trackball
          *speakers which only use usb for power

          I believe that is it. I will open it up later today to see if I missed anything, but I believe that is all I have plugged in.

          Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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          • caver01C
            caver01 @Majin Wamu
            last edited by

            @majin-wamu Interesting. Well, the Minipac does have TWO interfaces. From the Ultimarc Website:

            "Inputs for one 2-axis device (trackball) and one single-axis device (spinner)."

            I wonder if lr-mame2003 is picking up the spinner interface and ignoring the trackball in your case.

            My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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            • caver01C
              caver01
              last edited by caver01

              @dankcushions @markwkidd Something definitely works differently now in lr-mame2003. I would suggest we regressed. I haven't tested the right-stick core option yet, but something tells me this won't help the way I want/need it to. For those of us who have multiple mouse inputs, how do I make my spinners work for Blasteroids, for example, while my trackball works for Centipede? I might have to revert to using AdvanceMame to get my spinners working again, and @Majin-Wamu will have to stop using 2003 for trackball games.

              Any ideas? I think I am coming late to the party, as it had been a while since I updated to the latest versions of the binaries. It could be a months-old change to lr-mame2003 that I am only just seeing now with RetroPie 4.3.

              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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              • Majin WamuM
                Majin Wamu @caver01
                last edited by

                @caver01 Thank you caver! This is really helpful. Yeah, in the meantime I will wait it out. The version of Centipede I have doesn't seem to work with other emulators, so I can be patient. I was a little sad at the time, but I trust that the issue will be fixed eventually because the trackball worked before the 4.3 update.

                Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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                • Majin WamuM
                  Majin Wamu @caver01
                  last edited by

                  @caver01 Hello Caver, please let me know if there are new developments or if you hear back from anyone. Or if there is anything I can do or anyone I can contact.

                  Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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                  • caver01C
                    caver01 @Majin Wamu
                    last edited by

                    @majin-wamu The folks who might know details have been tagged here. Not much else we can do. You could try AdvanceMAME.

                    My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                    • markwkiddM
                      markwkidd
                      last edited by

                      @caver01 & @Majin-Wamu is there a way either of you could start an Issue in the mame2003-libretro github tracker? Optimally with a log.

                      This may be something that the libretro developer casdevel could take a look at unless dankcushions appears with an answer. casdevel is an expert on the libretro input system but they don't seem to read forums much, so I'll be glad to tag them if we can move this discussion to github

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                      • Majin WamuM
                        Majin Wamu @markwkidd
                        last edited by

                        @markwkidd That sounds like a great idea, but if you can, since I haven't done it before, explain how I can. I do have a github account but never took the time to use it or learn can be done with it.

                        Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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                        • caver01C
                          caver01 @Majin Wamu
                          last edited by

                          @majin-wamu you can install AdvanceMAME using the Retropie configuration menus. It will take some work to configure. Read this, and while you are at it, read the rest of RetroPie documentation.

                          My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                          • dankcushionsD
                            dankcushions Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            i'm afraid i have no answer. i may attempt it myself, but doubtful. i've really lost track of all the mouse functionality since all the recent changes.

                            an error report from someone will progress the issue.

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                            • caver01C
                              caver01 @dankcushions
                              last edited by

                              @dankcushions Do you mean like something from a log? I don't think there are any errors generated, just lost functionality. I'm happy to check somewhere if it helps.

                              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                              • markwkiddM
                                markwkidd @caver01
                                last edited by

                                @caver01 said in Trackball not working after 4.3 update:

                                @dankcushions Do you mean like something from a log? I don't think there are any errors generated, just lost functionality. I'm happy to check somewhere if it helps.

                                The log will contain details about your mouse devices that is necessary for certain kinds of input debugging.

                                That said, I have just found out that there is about to be a substantial update to the RetroArch udev input driver. It doesn't have anything specific to do with your error, but it will be worth waiting a day or two to try with the new code.

                                I'll post here once that happens.

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                                • caver01C
                                  caver01 @markwkidd
                                  last edited by

                                  @markwkidd said in Trackball not working after 4.3 update:

                                  The log will contain details about your mouse devices that is necessary for certain kinds of input debugging.

                                  Where is the log that contains the relevant information? I am happy to grab it.

                                  I am not getting any errors, but if the log is helpful given the fact that I have two mouse devices I will pull it and share.

                                  My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                  • Majin WamuM
                                    Majin Wamu
                                    last edited by

                                    I will wait it out as well, and keeping a close eye open on this board. If the trackball had worked in the past, I don't see why it wouldn't work again in the future. The thing is, what could had possibly caused it to stop working? Like change would effect it?

                                    Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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                                    • caver01C
                                      caver01 @Majin Wamu
                                      last edited by

                                      @majin-wamu from my perspective, recent changes to mouse inputs has the emulator ignoring all but a single mouse input. In past versions, if you moved ANY attached mouse device, they all would feed input to the emulator. Of course, that meant you could not do two separate mouse devices controlling different things at the same time (like no multiplayer Rampart which has 3 trackballs), but it did allow your trackball to work in games that required it while a set of spinners worked in another game.

                                      My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                      • Majin WamuM
                                        Majin Wamu @caver01
                                        last edited by

                                        @caver01 Well I guess their most recent change didn't really fix much sadly. I see what they tried to accomplish, but now I am out of luck. Could this mean there might be a chance it won't get fixed, due to their goal of not having multiple mice control the same thing?

                                        Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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                                        • dankcushionsD
                                          dankcushions Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          again, the only way anything gets fixed is when people report bugs on github. the multiple mouse thing was absolutely required for proper functionality and the 'all mice are treated as player 1' thing wasn't desirable.

                                          to record logs you need to start the game in verbose mode the runcommand, and then use ssh to access /dev/shm/runcommand.log - paste that here. thanks :)

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                                          • Majin WamuM
                                            Majin Wamu @dankcushions
                                            last edited by

                                            @dankcushions Alright, I will do that. Where exactly should I post the issue on github?

                                            Builder of a classic 1980s style arcade. I call it the Retro Realm!

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