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Under voltage warnings on RetroFlag NESPI case - best power supply?

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    cyperghost @sonicsheppard
    last edited by cyperghost 9 Aug 2017, 21:25 8 Sept 2017, 20:25

    @sonicsheppard Just for clearance as I'm not native speaker - I mean such a device and you can use an extra cable. Not a fix connected cable to the wall charger ;)

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      Darksavior @sonicsheppard
      last edited by 9 Sept 2017, 01:24

      @sonicsheppard said in Under voltage warnings on RetroFlag NESPI case - best power supply?:

      Hi @Darksavior

      It seems that lowering that over_voltage value to 2 has greatly helped!

      I've only had one instance in the last 30 minutes, rather than seeing it every few minutes when it was set to 4.

      Was wondering, would you suggest lowering it further to 1, or is it even needed for the overclock settings I'm using?

      Thanks so much for your help dude, hugely apprecieted!

      I haven't really done any extensive testing other than using the examples. Since I've had no issues with the provided settings, I never bothered to test out overvoltage=1. As it was already mentioned, you can try a thicker gauge usb power cable.

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        cyperghost @Darksavior
        last edited by cyperghost 9 Sept 2017, 07:21 9 Sept 2017, 06:20

        @darksavior It's also possible that it is from the case itself. It provides a power connector pluged in and then powers up the Pie via GPIO pins. So the connectors themself provide some resistance.

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          Foldedpencil
          last edited by 6 Oct 2017, 01:43

          I am having the same issue with the case. I think I'm going to return it and get a different one and see if it does better... I haven't seen this cited as a common issue, so I'm hoping it just a manufacturing defect.

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            amputato
            last edited by 11 Oct 2017, 00:24

            i am also getting voltage warnings with this case, too bad i really like the case! i've never overclocked anything before, can i change the overvoltage value without changing clockspeed? does changing the value work?

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              Foldedpencil
              last edited by 11 Oct 2017, 05:17

              Just an update, I got a replacement Nespi case and I'm no longer having any issues with the voltage. Seem like there is some manufacturing variation. I suggest that if you have this issue you try and get a replacement.

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                dexter @Foldedpencil
                last edited by 11 Oct 2017, 17:48

                @foldedpencil I'm having undervoltage issues as well. I contacted the seller already, just curious what the process was. Did you have to ship the defective one back? If so, was it before or after you received your replacement? I'm a little worried, cuz I removed the nespi label, and added a Nintendo label.

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                  Foldedpencil @dexter
                  last edited by 11 Oct 2017, 18:20

                  @dexter I purchased it from retroflag on Amazon and Amazon handled the return. They gave me a free shipping label and told me to use it anytime in the next 30 days (it could have been longer, I don't really remember). I ordered another one, waited for it to arrive, switched them out, and sent the old one back in the new ones box. You could easily keep the top part from the old one (I did that so I wouldn't have to fiddle with switching out my fan). Good luck!

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                    dexter @Foldedpencil
                    last edited by 11 Oct 2017, 19:20

                    @foldedpencil good idea! Thank you!

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                      Foldedpencil @dexter
                      last edited by 11 Oct 2017, 19:37

                      @dexter By the way, how easy was it to apply the Nintendo decal? I'm considering getting one, but I'd hate to get it crooked. They aren't really that cheap, but do they look good/durable?

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                        dexter @Foldedpencil
                        last edited by 11 Oct 2017, 22:06

                        @foldedpencil I actually haven't put it on yet, but I did remove the nespi logo with a magic eraser. No scuff marks or anything. I'll let you know how the application part of it goes.

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                          amputato
                          last edited by 16 Oct 2017, 23:35

                          thanks guys i got my money refunded. will reorder a working one hopefully

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                            SgtJimmyRustles
                            last edited by 18 Oct 2017, 13:14

                            I'd say try to get a power supply that's rated at 5.25v. That should allow the voltage to drop .25 which would still give you 5v to go with.

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                              dexter @Foldedpencil
                              last edited by 25 Oct 2017, 21:29

                              @foldedpencil so I got my new nespi case and even got to keep the old one. Still having the same issues. Guess I have to try a new power supply. NES label was kind of a pain to put on (I chickened out, and had my wife do it) but it looks great

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                                iggy
                                last edited by iggy 25 Oct 2017, 23:55

                                The one thing I noticed with the NESPi cases (I have two and both exhibit the undervoltage warnings) is that the wires used for power inside the case might be causing considerable resistance and essentially dropping voltage to the Pi.

                                Might first suggestion is try a 5.2 V rated power supply (with 2.5 A or larger), as mentioned above, and see if the undervoltage indicators go away. If not, my second suggestion (in my case for both cases) would be to replace the wires (noted with cyan arrows) with thicker gauge quality wires. Once I did that, did not have any issues with undervoltage issues. The wires I used were 22 gauge stranded wire.

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                                  MarkRMonaco
                                  last edited by 30 Oct 2017, 03:12

                                  @iggy could you post some pics of your GPIO mod?

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                                    iggy @MarkRMonaco
                                    last edited by 31 Oct 2017, 21:11

                                    @markrmonaco Ill see about posting some pics with a new nespi build....the other two builds have hot glue covering the terminals.

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                                      Trailjacker @iggy
                                      last edited by Trailjacker 13 Nov 2017, 17:00

                                      @iggy Where did you get a spare dual row jumper connector or do you know what that part is called? Also, are the other end of those leads soldered?

                                      Also, do you run psx and n64 games on this wired setup without voltage issues?

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                                        KN4THX
                                        last edited by KN4THX 15 Dec 2017, 01:12

                                        I posted this in another thread and wanted to share it in a few posts related to this, as I followed @iggy 's solution:

                                        "I wanted to add some findings to the power issues on this case.

                                        I had both a Canakit adapter 2.5a and a Pi Hut 2.5a power supply. I don't know if some of it is just bad luck or manufacturing, but I had power issues even scrolling through my game list ( which is a video preview list, not just screenshots/box art).

                                        I decided to solder new larger 22 awg pos & neg input power wires (the ones from the power input/buttons board on the case that runs to the other board which sits under the usb/ethernet circuit board). Replacing these wires cured my lightning bolt issues. It seems that the other wires are fine for voltage but as many speculated, the main power input wires were not thick enough and too much current/voltage was lost after running through the power/reset button board. All seem so be well and am even playing N64 games without any voltage issues. This is with a gampad and a keyboard plugged in, with wifi on, and a third wireless input (ps3 controller ) all being active at once.

                                        Hope this helps."

                                        "If you're gonna play the Game Boy, You gotta learn to play it right" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLGl92ETNQ

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                                          furboyxr8
                                          last edited by 12 Apr 2018, 22:52

                                          I posted this on a different post but
                                          Hey guys iv been playing with issue for a little bit and was thing how was the power getting to the pies motherboard and think its getting its power from the usb port and the 5v fan pins.
                                          This had me thinking a long time back I connected a usb powered hub to one and found that the pie stayed on even if I disconnected the power from the pies micro usb port, but the under voltage symbol work come on and the machine would start to run very slow.
                                          So what iv done is solder to wires from the nespi case power and reset switch circuit board( theres 3 pairs positive + and negative - wires coming on and off it)
                                          I used the middle + and - to run a wire to the pies board (had to solder wires to board) positive + PP2 and negative - PP5 points on the underside of the motherboard near the micro usb port.
                                          This seems to have fixed the problem so I tested the pie by running 007 golden eye for the n64 (had the left dpad stuck down so the character would spin around over and over) for and hour and then tried Mario kart 64 (did the same thing with the buttons) for an hour then tried G-police 2 for the ps1 (same again with the buttons) for an hour I dident get under voltage fault.
                                          So I hope this will help im going to buy a few more nespi cases and try with them to se if it works with them too.
                                          Hope this helps

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