FBA vs. MAME
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@greenhawk84 it is up-to date emulation and more accurate. As with any emulator that's more accurate, slowdowns will occur. I also use fba when I can but any game giving me slowdowns I use fba2012, then mame2003 then mame2010.
So like tmnt, sunset riders, and other konami games I get slowdowns on my oc'd pi2 at 1ghz with fba but they're full speed in fba2012.
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I discovered how to enable the hack for 8-way controls on Defender and Stargate. I made a post in the General area.
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@darksavior I use the Pi3 so lr-FBAlpha seems to run full speed.
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Updates:
mame-libretro: https://pastebin.com/bdi4aBh9
mame-advmame: https://pastebin.com/8Z2Y6YNz
Final Burn Alpha (fba): https://pastebin.com/sdYQ1w4DMoved some more from FBA to MAME and AdvanceMAME depending on the performance. Popeye has glitchy text on FBA. Rampage World Tour is slow, so it got moved to MAME. The Strikers 1945 II and III games are too slow in FBA. It can be improved by overclocking the CPU in FBA, but why bother? The games are not emulated 100% in MAME 2003. I couldn't get them to run in MAME 2010. I settled for AdvanceMAME. Punchout is duplicated. Use MAME 2010 if you want to play it single screen. The default is the top screen, which makes the game unplayable. Go into the MAME video settings and choose the other screen. Use AdvanceMAME for both screens. Pole Position 1 and 2 required modifications to the inputs to work. I suspect these were also hacks built into MAME 2003 that are available when cheats are enabled, but I didn't confirm. Go to the TAB menu and choose inputs for the game. You will see settings that are highlighted in white that are mapped to a single keyboard key and nothing else. Select them and hit the delete key twice real fast. That should clear it out to the default, which will now use your gamepad.
I could not get Tron to work well. I don't have a spinner, so I wouldn't have been able to play it with just a gamepad anyway.
I was missing some real classics! Don't know how that happened.
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"The Strikers 1945 II and III games are too slow in FBA."
You need to enable the Kaneko speed hack option in the options menu for them to run well. I might have completely butchered that option name, though.
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All this info about specific game control settings and hacks is really valuable.
What about putting all this in a shared file?
A spreadsheet with ROM name, optimal core and settings/tips/hacks would be great. -
@udb23 I really second this. One MAME spreadsheet to rule them all.
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Obligatory reference:
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@pjft Hehe. But seriously, the tips in this thread should be gathered in some searchable place.
I'd love to check out how other people play my favorite MAME games (which version/emulation is the best) and if there's any other tips to make them run even better, this should be there also.
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@pjft said in FBA vs. MAME:
"The Strikers 1945 II and III games are too slow in FBA."
You need to enable the Kaneko speed hack option in the options menu for them to run well. I might have completely butchered that option name, though.
The FBA compatibility spreadsheet suggested overclocking the CPU. I don't know about a speed hack, but the easy solution is to not use FBA since AdvanceMAME works fine as is.
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Does anybody know if G-Stream G2020 is playable on Pi3 ? What core?
It was added to MAME with v 115. -
@pussyfoot it means overclocking game emulaed cpu not the PI cpu, i set mine to 200% its under quick menu/options when you load a neo-geo based game
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@linuxarcadeguy said in FBA vs. MAME:
@pussyfoot it means overclocking game emulaed cpu not the PI cpu, i set mine to 200% its under quick menu/options when you load a neo-geo based game
Yes, I know. It's not a panacea. Just use MAME for those games.
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mame2003 PRs are very welcome from my experience, so when there is a dipswitch or core setting that seems like a better default, the default can probably be changed.
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mame-libretro: https://pastebin.com/6wAYWALb
mame-advmame: https://pastebin.com/8JLHcq8x
Final Burn Alpha (fba): https://pastebin.com/LG43KZs7This is probably the final list. I remember seeing a file that identifies the ones in mame-libretro are using mame 2010 instead of 2003, but I can't find it.
Some final words about this... This is a good start for anyone looking for a definitive rom list of working games using the best emulator for the job as of 2017/11/11. However, this is not perfect by any means. There are games on the list that don't work. I haven't tested ever single game thoroughly to know exactly which emulator is best. (For example, I hear that some games need to be tested on later levels before problems show themselves.) One of the last changes I made was to move the Arkanoid games out of FBA since MAME allows either the joystick or mouse to control. There may be additional games that only work in MAME 2010 or AdvanceMAME that I haven't included. Like I said earlier, if I ever had to do another emulation "box," I'd look into using a x86 solution where I could just use the latest MAME and be done with it and also be assured whatever other emulators used would run better than on any other platform.
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I'm surprised there hasn't been a Mame-Pi or FBA-Pi optimized just for Pi.
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@greenhawk84 said in FBA vs. MAME:
I'm surprised there hasn't been a Mame-Pi or FBA-Pi optimized just for Pi.
there has: mame4all-pi, and pifba. however, if you're on pi2 or pi3 you're mostly better off going for later versions.
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Dankcushions said:
there has: mame4all-pi, and pifba. however, if you're on pi2 or pi3 you're mostly better off going for later versions.Yes, and these being stand-alone, they obviously don't enjoy retroarch setups. For me, the CRT-PI shader is an important feature.
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@pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:
This is a good start for anyone looking for a definitive rom list of working games using the best emulator for the job as of 2017/11/11.
First thanks again for creating those lists.
I combined all three into one single xls file that lists the roms (sorted by filename) and for each rom shows the suggested (best) core.
Concerning lr-mame, some games require 2010 (vs 2003) to run correctly: eg. Spiders and Sheriff. As screen aspect ratio is wrong in lr-mame 2010 a specific cfg is required to fix the ratio. For the 2 mentioned games I made an overlay that also fixes screen ratio. In the xls files this is specified by rom and includes links to corresponding overlays.
I will add more 2010 required roms in the future when found.Global "best core" for roms file is available here.
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this is great guys thanks alot for this , could you tell me what rom set i need for this configuration. do i need the fba rom set for fba and different rom set for mame 2003.
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