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    • UDb23U
      UDb23 @barbudreadmon
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      @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

      gunbird2 you need to enable the speedhack in the dipswitches.

      Good to know, thanks. Will add these tips in the global "best core" xls file.

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      • MrJordaaanyM
        MrJordaaany @barbudreadmon
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        @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

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          barbudreadmon @MrJordaaany
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          @mrjordaaany said in FBA vs. MAME:

          @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

          You can see the exact version of the running core at the bottom left of the retroarch menu

          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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          • MrJordaaanyM
            MrJordaaany @barbudreadmon
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            @barbudreadmon Of course. Thanks!

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              Pussyfoot
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              I caught one more rom that was in FBA that is better suited for MAME: Ms. Pacman.

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              • GreenHawk84G
                GreenHawk84 @Pussyfoot
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                @pussyfoot you mean Mame2003?

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                  Pussyfoot @GreenHawk84
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                  @greenhawk84 Yes. If you go through my lists, Ms Pacman appears on the FBA list. I moved it to MAME2003.

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                  • danielmewhouseD
                    danielmewhouse
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                    In my opinion, mame is better if you have the right combo of emulator+rom, what is hard to match sometimes. FBA is way more compatible than Mame, when Mame focus on perfection.

                    It's no use!!! Take this!!!

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                    • DarksaviorD
                      Darksavior @danielmewhouse
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                      @danielmewhouse Except mame2003 is from 2003 and fba is from a few months ago. The emulation is a decade+ newer. Fba is my main emulator unless a game runs slow or it's not supported.

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                      • MrJordaaanyM
                        MrJordaaany
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                        mame2003 is more reference to the romset from that era these days. The emulator is still actively developed making new games compatible with it.

                        mame2003 is good, because you just need the mame2003 romset and has alot of compatible roms. The romset doesn't need to be updated or change like other rom sets.

                        Meanwhile you can benifit from all the changes they make to the mame2003 emulator fork for retropie :)

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                          barbudreadmon @danielmewhouse
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                          @danielmewhouse FBA team is mainly interested in the final result, MAME team is mainly interested in following the "official recipe". I wouldn't say current MAME is more "perfect" than current FBA, on some games the final result in current FBA is clearly better, sometimes they even hack around to fix a bug present in the rom (which is something MAME won't do due to its policy)
                          I think @gamez-fan posted a list of games that are better in fba not long ago.

                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                          • danielmewhouseD
                            danielmewhouse @Darksavior
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                            @darksavior said in FBA vs. MAME:

                            @danielmewhouse Except mame2003 is from 2003 and fba is from a few months ago. The emulation is a decade+ newer.

                            Do you mean retroarch core FBA, right? I use FBA since 2000 as standalone emulator for Windows. Was an emulators war between Mame, FBA and WinKawaks. The most near perfect to a real arcade was Mame, when WinKawaks and FBA was easier to manage. The problem with romsets is: if I don't wanna get the full romset, is hard to find the right rom alone for Mame. Talking about Mame, I'm experiencing a weird issue: Mame 2010 doesn't save modifications on games service menu, like free play feature. On 2003 this bug doesn't occur, but some games like Marvel vs Capcom doesn't work with Mame 2003.

                            It's no use!!! Take this!!!

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                            • DarksaviorD
                              Darksavior @danielmewhouse
                              last edited by Darksavior

                              @danielmewhouse Right, we're talking about right now and what the pi can run. I know the history. I've been using emulators since 98 or something. As of right now available for the pi, fba has more advanced emulation than mame2003. I have a pi2 and pi3 and I make sure the games run fullspeed on my oc'd pi2 first. The accuracy will require more power, and that's when I resort to mame2003. It depends on the game.

                              Oh, getting complete romsets is so simple these days with a quick google search, it's less hassle to get the whole set and later dig through it to get the games I want.

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                              • danielmewhouseD
                                danielmewhouse @Darksavior
                                last edited by danielmewhouse

                                @darksavior said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                Oh, getting complete romsets is so simple these days with a quick google search, it's less hassle to get the whole set and later dig through it to get the games I want.

                                This morning I found a website that provided the right roms for mame2003 individually, and actually works!!! 😁 Even Super Street Fighter 2 turbo worked!!! This game is my "Eleanor" (like Nicholas Cage's 60 seconds movie). Every time I try this game, or it's incompatible with the emulator, or the game speed and difficult adjustment just doesn't works. The game stills faster than Flash and harder as hell 😅

                                It's no use!!! Take this!!!

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                                • arcadez2003A
                                  arcadez2003 @barbudreadmon
                                  last edited by arcadez2003

                                  @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                  I think @gamez-fan posted a list of games that are better in fba not long ago.

                                  Oh that was just a small list of Toaplan games, if was to create a list of all the games i know perform or are emulated better in FBA Vs ole MAME i'd be here all day :D

                                  Arcade Addict

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                                  • AndersHPA
                                    AndersHP @UDb23
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                                    @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                    Global "best core" for roms file is available here.

                                    Is there any DAT files that sort by this list? So one could build a MAME collection and an FBA collection of roms, and gather them to have the ultimate romset?

                                    Or how do you guys do?

                                    My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                    My Gameboy

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                                    • DarksaviorD
                                      Darksavior @UDb23
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                                      @udb23 From a quick look, I'm already seeing some errors. Like rtypeleo runs full speed on mame2003 and not quite well on fba. I've been testing my ~200 arcade games lately, and I can provide corrections when I'm done.

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                                      • UDb23U
                                        UDb23 @Darksavior
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                                        @AndersHP , @darksavior said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                        I'm already seeing some errors

                                        My activity so far was just collecting the info provided by @Pussyfoot.
                                        Next step I would like to add any required/suggested setting (per game); e.g. specific dip switch and/or controls config.
                                        In parallel of course it is important to test if the list actually is correct; so more than welcome if you already can provide fixes.

                                        No ideas on specific DAT files yet; open to suggestions.

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                                        • danielmewhouseD
                                          danielmewhouse @AndersHP
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                                          @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                          @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                          Global "best core" for roms file is available here.

                                          Is there any DAT files that sort by this list? So one could build a MAME collection and an FBA collection of roms, and gather them to have the ultimate romset?

                                          Or how do you guys do?

                                          @AndersHP If you just put your roms at mame-libretro and FBA folders, you'll get two arcade options on system menu, one for Mame and other for FBA. The only problem is how to know what game plays better with what emulator. After this, just organize the games ok the respective emulator folder and presto!!!

                                          It's no use!!! Take this!!!

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                                          • UDb23U
                                            UDb23 @danielmewhouse
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                                            @danielmewhouse Even easier: move all wanted roms into the "arcade" folder and assign each rom to be launched with the "best" core.
                                            Point is you also need the right rom version for that "best" core. That's why @AndersHP requests corresponding DAT files, if I understand correctly.

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