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    Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?

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    • RiverstormR
      Riverstorm @mediamogul
      last edited by Riverstorm

      @mediamogul said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

      @Riverstorm said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

      The only thing I can think of is they are not the correct versions/names possibly?

      That's really all it can be. I'll reinstall everything later today and hope for the best.

      I spoke a bit to soon. I must have been in the wrong MAME since they all show the same ES icon. I have 3, one for lr-imame4all, AdvMAME and lr-mame2003. I think the only way to tell the difference is knowing your gamelist and when you launch a game and you briefly see the emulator started. Right now my AdvMAME and lr-mame2003 are almost identical. Anyway I don't have samples or artwork working either.

      I verified the samples with both the Wiki DAT:

      https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Managing-ROMs

      I also used the official MAME 0.78 executable to create a DAT.

      Both show dkong.zip should contain:

      effect00.wav
effect01.wav
effect02.wav

      When running the game it's missing sounds when the Donkey Kong is stomping the girders in the intro. It's also missing the running and jumping sounds.

      I also re-checked Solar Quest and the artwork does not work. The zip is solarq.zip. The files contained within are:

      solarbez.png
solarmsk.png
solarq.art
solarq.png

      I am using the same artwork for AdvMAME which has the dark blue translucent backdrop and red/yellow colored circles.

      Can anyone that does have it working verify the sample names and if it Donkey Kong or another game does have working sound samples in lr-mame2003? (CRC doesn't matter with samples just the proper name).

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      • dankcushionsD
        dankcushions Global Moderator @Riverstorm
        last edited by dankcushions

        @Riverstorm where are your samples/artwork? see https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samples for the correct location for samples. artwork isn't documented, but it's in the same place (although in .../artwork rather than .../samples)

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        • mediamogulM
          mediamogul Global Moderator @dankcushions
          last edited by mediamogul

          @dankcushions

          Neither are working for me currently, assuming the location for those directories is still /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/.

          RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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          • dankcushionsD
            dankcushions Global Moderator @mediamogul
            last edited by

            @mediamogul said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

            @dankcushions

            Neither are working for me currently, assuming the location for those directories is still /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/.

            the link i just posted tells you the full location :)

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            • RiverstormR
              Riverstorm @dankcushions
              last edited by

              @dankcushions said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

              @Riverstorm where are your samples/artwork? see https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samples for the correct location for samples. artwork isn't documented, but it's in the same place (although in .../artwork rather than .../samples)

              Sorry, yes they are located in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/samples and /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/artwork.

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              • mediamogulM
                mediamogul Global Moderator
                last edited by mediamogul

                I just triple-checked and that is indeed where I have those directories located, it's just that I get no results from MAME. I haven't gone back to reinstall everything like I mentioned previously, but if those are in fact the correct locations, then I suppose it will have to work itself out one way or another.

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                • RiverstormR
                  Riverstorm @mediamogul
                  last edited by Riverstorm

                  @mediamogul said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

                  I haven't gone back to reinstall everything like I mentioned previously

                  The source I used was from 5 days ago. Under "RetroPie Setup" I used "Install individual emulators from binary or source".

                  @dankcushions I think you mentioned Retroarch needing a potential upgrade if that applies I could give it a shot too.

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                  • mediamogulM
                    mediamogul Global Moderator @Riverstorm
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                    @Riverstorm

                    So much can get jumbled in text explanations on complicated issues such as this that it might be worth repeating what I've tried so far.

                    • I compiled and installed the lr-mame2003 source option from the 'RetroPie Setup' menu.
                    • I installed the binary option for RetroArch from the same menu
                    • I changed my 'sample' directory to 'samples', located at /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/
                    • I added a fully complimented directory of version-appropriate artwork titled 'artwork' at the same location

                    As a result, the two directory paths are:
                    /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/samples
                    /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/artwork

                    It's probably worth noting that these modifications were made just a bit after you tried them yourself, five days ago. Was I reading your previous post correctly that through a bit of confusion, your artwork and samples aren't working in mame2003 either as you first thought?

                    RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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                    • dankcushionsD
                      dankcushions Global Moderator @mediamogul
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                      just done a test, and it doesn't work for me now! after debugging, i have to hold my hands up here.. i super broke samples! :( a change i did a few weeks ago to clean up the old code has now broken it. classic...

                      it won't work if you have the very latest version.

                      i will do a fix right now and update when a new one can be downloaded. sorry! on the plus side, i also got mouse/trackball support working :)

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                      • RiverstormR
                        Riverstorm @mediamogul
                        last edited by

                        @mediamogul said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

                        Was I reading your previous post correctly that through a bit of confusion, your artwork and samples aren't working in mame2003 either as you first thought?

                        Yeah, I was tired and I think I was in AdvMAME last Friday while testing and thought all was good. I've been doing a lot more testing with lr-mame2003 to hopefully make my default MAME emulator.

                        I am having the same results you listed above except I haven't tried reinstalling lr-mame2003 and Retroarch from binary everything else is a go. :)

                        Honestly most of what I play works just fine lr-imame4all but there are a few extras in 0.78 like Shinobi, Ninja Gaiden, Soul Caliber, Puzzle Bobble, Western Express and a few others I can't remember that would make some nice additions.

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                        • mediamogulM
                          mediamogul Global Moderator @dankcushions
                          last edited by mediamogul

                          @dankcushions said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

                          sorry! on the plus side, i also got mouse/trackball support working :)

                          Not a problem at all. I was beginning to suspect Gremlins anyway. Major thanks for the mouse & trackball addition. I can't wait to try that out.

                          Edit: The dog in 'Duck Hunt' will pay!

                          @Riverstorm
                          Those titles are indeed worth the extra attention. You've got good taste in games.

                          Thanks to both of you for your help here.

                          RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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                          • RiverstormR
                            Riverstorm @dankcushions
                            last edited by

                            @dankcushions said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

                            sorry! on the plus side, i also got mouse/trackball support working :)

                            Thanks Dank, I appreciate all you guys do!

                            @mediamogul I know the things we do just for retro gaming nostalgia! :) There are several D&D style games too that look like they would interesting to play through. I see others like Cruis'n USA and Hard Drivin' that are definitely worth playing if you have steering controls. I do agree 0.78 is worth the extra time to setup! :)

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                            • caver01C
                              caver01 @dankcushions
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                              @dankcushions said in Need guidance: Best MAME emulator to use for classic 80's games?:

                              i also got mouse/trackball support working :)

                              WOOT WOOT!

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