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      dudleydes @AndersHP
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      @andershp Yes that command should do it.

      You can check the string to be used in the command by checking in opt/retropie/configs/all/emulators.cfg

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      • AndersHPA
        AndersHP
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        I just want to let people know, that following the above mentioned lists and commandlines, I have succesfully merged MAME2003 (0.78)/FBA 0.2.97.42/ADVMAME 0.106 in my Arcade folder, and the best core are chosen for the best versions of games.

        I don't know how much maintenance it will demand on longer sight (probably manually editing a game at a time if something doesn't work), but for now, it's really great that everything is centralized and optimized for best core. Recommendations!

        My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
        My Gameboy

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        • mituM
          mitu Global Moderator @AndersHP
          last edited by mitu

          @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

          Recommendations!

          Cadillacs and Dinosaurs !

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          • strangerukS
            strangeruk
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            Wow, this thread has been most useful in sorting out my arcade section! Big thanks to @dudleydes, @AndersHP and @Pussyfoot for their contributions.

            Being a Windows user I did a slightly different approach in copying out the roms from my set via the text file list and did it with PowerShell. For what it's worth, here's the command I used:

            $Files = Get-Content filename.txt
            $Dest = "PathTo:\Desired\Rom\Folder"
            
            foreach ($File in $Files) {
              Copy-Item $File $Dest
            }
            

            Once again thanks to everyone who contributed in this thread.

            PS. I'd also recommend Knuckle Bash for comedy value.

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            • robotronmanR
              robotronman
              last edited by

              Hi All,

              I totally agree with @strangeruk here. This thread has been super helpful. Big thanks to @dudleydes, @AndersHP and @Pussyfoot for their contributions.

              I too use windows to administer my Retropie systems and have a tip for using @dudleydes UNIX commands directly from Windows.

              First download and install Gow found here: https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/releases/

              Gow (Gnu On Windows) is the lightweight alternative to Cygwin. It uses a convenient NSIS installer that installs over 100 extremely useful open source UNIX applications compiled as native win32 binaries. It is designed to be as small as possible, about 18 MB, as opposed to Cygwin which can run well over 100 MB depending upon options.

              This tool is unbelievably awesome, and lets you run xargs and cp and many other UNIX commands right on your Windows machine. I've successfully used @dudleydes process above on Windows to filter my lists and files quickly and efficiently.

              Bravo guys, awesome work!
              robotronman

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              • pjftP
                pjft @robotronman
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                @robotronman said in FBA vs. MAME:

                First download and install Gow found here: https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/releases/

                Thank you for the tip! Had been looking for something like this for a while - I had something similar in the past, but I completely forgot the name of what I was using then, so this comes in handy!

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                • johnodonJ
                  johnodon
                  last edited by

                  Just wanted to say that this thread is awesome and exactly what I was looking for. Replying so I don't lose it again! :)

                  Thank you all for the hard work!

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                  • AndersHPA
                    AndersHP
                    last edited by

                    I'm really enjoying my new arcade folder also.

                    To tidy things up completely, it could have been nice to base the lists on the non-mahjong and non-adult DAT files, but I guess that's just personal taste.

                    My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                    My Gameboy

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                    • johnodonJ
                      johnodon
                      last edited by

                      What do you guys think about adding the Neogeo set under FBA?

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                      • AndersHPA
                        AndersHP @johnodon
                        last edited by

                        @johnodon if anyone has a NeoGeo gamelist with zip files listed, I can make an FBA list with these included.

                        Personally, I like to have NeoGeo games listed under the NeoGeo system folder.

                        My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                        My Gameboy

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                        • johnodonJ
                          johnodon @AndersHP
                          last edited by

                          @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                          @johnodon if anyone has a NeoGeo gamelist with zip files listed, I can make an FBA list with these included.

                          Personally, I like to have NeoGeo games listed under the NeoGeo system folder.

                          I think this is close to all of them (bios file removed from list):

                          2020bb.zip
                          3countb.zip
                          alpham2.zip
                          androdun.zip
                          aodk.zip
                          aof.zip
                          aof2.zip
                          aof3.zip
                          bangbead.zip
                          bjourney.zip
                          blazstar.zip
                          breakrev.zip
                          bstars.zip
                          bstars2.zip
                          burningf.zip
                          crsword.zip
                          ctomaday.zip
                          cyberlip.zip
                          doubledr.zip
                          eightman.zip
                          fatfursp.zip
                          fatfury1.zip
                          fatfury2.zip
                          fatfury3.zip
                          fbfrenzy.zip
                          fightfev.zip
                          flipshot.zip
                          galaxyfg.zip
                          ganryu.zip
                          garou.zip
                          ghostlop.zip
                          goalx3.zip
                          gowcaizr.zip
                          gpilots.zip
                          gururin.zip
                          irrmaze.zip
                          joyjoy.zip
                          kabukikl.zip
                          karnovr.zip
                          kizuna.zip
                          kof2000.zip
                          kof2001.zip
                          kof2002.zip
                          kof2003.zip
                          kof94.zip
                          kof95.zip
                          kof96.zip
                          kof97.zip
                          kof98.zip
                          kof99.zip
                          kotm.zip
                          kotm2.zip
                          lastblad.zip
                          lastbld2.zip
                          lbowling.zip
                          legendos.zip
                          lresort.zip
                          magdrop2.zip
                          magdrop3.zip
                          maglord.zip
                          matrim.zip
                          miexchng.zip
                          mslug.zip
                          mslug2.zip
                          mslug3.zip
                          mslug4.zip
                          mslug5.zip
                          mslugx.zip
                          mutnat.zip
                          nam1975.zip
                          ncombat.zip
                          ncommand.zip
                          neobombe.zip
                          neocup98.zip
                          neodrift.zip
                          neomrdo.zip
                          ninjamas.zip
                          nitd.zip
                          overtop.zip
                          panicbom.zip
                          pbobbl2n.zip
                          pbobblen.zip
                          pgoal.zip
                          pnyaa.zip
                          popbounc.zip
                          preisle2.zip
                          pspikes2.zip
                          pulstar.zip
                          puzzledp.zip
                          rbff1.zip
                          rbff2.zip
                          rbffspec.zip
                          ridhero.zip
                          roboarmy.zip
                          rotd.zip
                          s1945p.zip
                          samsh5sp.zip
                          samsho.zip
                          samsho2.zip
                          samsho3.zip
                          samsho4.zip
                          samsho5.zip
                          savagere.zip
                          sdodgeb.zip
                          sengoku.zip
                          sengoku2.zip
                          sengoku3.zip
                          shocktr2.zip
                          shocktro.zip
                          socbrawl.zip
                          sonicwi2.zip
                          sonicwi3.zip
                          spinmast.zip
                          ssideki.zip
                          ssideki2.zip
                          ssideki3.zip
                          ssideki4.zip
                          stakwin.zip
                          stakwin2.zip
                          strhoop.zip
                          superspy.zip
                          tophuntr.zip
                          tpgolf.zip
                          turfmast.zip
                          twinspri.zip
                          tws96.zip
                          viewpoin.zip
                          wakuwak7.zip
                          wh1.zip
                          wh2.zip
                          wh2j.zip
                          whp.zip
                          wjammers.zip
                          zedblade.zip
                          zupapa.zip

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                          • AndersHPA
                            AndersHP @johnodon
                            last edited by AndersHP

                            @johnodon I've added an lr-fbalpha list including NeoGeo games here. Hope this is helpful.

                            My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                            My Gameboy

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                            • johnodonJ
                              johnodon
                              last edited by johnodon

                              If anyone wants a shortcut to all of this, here is a link to my emulators.cfg. If you see anything wrong, let me know.

                              https://pastebin.com/NJNcqmH5

                              2278 games total
                              43 advmame
                              1613 lr-fbalpha
                              640 lr-mame2003
                              2 lr-mame2010

                              John

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                                barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                                @andershp You mention "sound glitches" in rtype and gyruss, could you be a little more precise ? Also, those glitches happen with any sound setting (samplerate, sample interpolation & fm interpolation) in the core options ?
                                Those games should run flawlessly considering their cpu usage, so perhaps there is some glitch which needs to be reported to the fbalpha team.

                                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                • tashmanT
                                  tashman
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm not sure if anyone is keeping a definitive list but in addition - footchmp.zip, euroch92.zip and hattrick.zip all have poor sound in the intros and for the in game "voice over" in lr-fbalpha. No issues in lr-mame2003/2010 and mame4all (Rpi 3 stock settings). It may improve with tweaks but it's better to choose an emulator that works right away.

                                  Is it worth reporting these to the FBA alpha team?

                                  Also a massive thanks to everyone involved in putting all this together. It has kept me busy this weekend!

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                                    barbudreadmon @tashman
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                                    @tashman said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                    Is it worth reporting these to the FBA alpha team?

                                    If this is bad enough to make people choose another emulator, i think it is.
                                    Btw, hattrick can't have poor sound in fba since it is not emulated at all.

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                    • tashmanT
                                      tashman @barbudreadmon
                                      last edited by

                                      @barbudreadmon to be honest I made the assumption about hattrick as it's the same game.

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                                        barbudreadmon
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                                        @AndersHP @tashman So i tried rtype, footchmp, euroch92 and gyruss in mame2003, and while i didn't notice the "poor sound" or "sound glitches" you mentioned for the first 3, there is definitely something off with fbalpha's gyruss sound, so i bumped an old topic about gyruss sound upstream : http://neo-source.com/index.php?topic=2490.0

                                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                          barbudreadmon
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                                          @AndersHP The difference between mame and fbalpha for gyruss is only the balance, i just patched it in lr-fbalpha, let me know what do you think about the new one.

                                          PS : i still don't know what are your sound glitches in rtype.

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                          • AndersHPA
                                            AndersHP
                                            last edited by AndersHP

                                            Sorry for being so passive here, I will check these out ASAP.
                                            As for Gyruss, it's the spawning sound that's off in fba. Very fuzzy. It's much better and sharper sounding in MAME2003.

                                            Rtype I had actual soundglitches in, but will test again soon.

                                            @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                            i just patched it in lr-fbalpha, let me know what do you think about the new one.

                                            How do I get this? Just update my lr-fbalpha emulator? Or are we talking new romsets?

                                            My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                            My Gameboy

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