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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator @AndersHP
      last edited by mitu

      @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

      Recommendations!

      Cadillacs and Dinosaurs !

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      • strangerukS
        strangeruk
        last edited by

        Wow, this thread has been most useful in sorting out my arcade section! Big thanks to @dudleydes, @AndersHP and @Pussyfoot for their contributions.

        Being a Windows user I did a slightly different approach in copying out the roms from my set via the text file list and did it with PowerShell. For what it's worth, here's the command I used:

        $Files = Get-Content filename.txt
        $Dest = "PathTo:\Desired\Rom\Folder"
        
        foreach ($File in $Files) {
          Copy-Item $File $Dest
        }
        

        Once again thanks to everyone who contributed in this thread.

        PS. I'd also recommend Knuckle Bash for comedy value.

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        • robotronmanR
          robotronman
          last edited by

          Hi All,

          I totally agree with @strangeruk here. This thread has been super helpful. Big thanks to @dudleydes, @AndersHP and @Pussyfoot for their contributions.

          I too use windows to administer my Retropie systems and have a tip for using @dudleydes UNIX commands directly from Windows.

          First download and install Gow found here: https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/releases/

          Gow (Gnu On Windows) is the lightweight alternative to Cygwin. It uses a convenient NSIS installer that installs over 100 extremely useful open source UNIX applications compiled as native win32 binaries. It is designed to be as small as possible, about 18 MB, as opposed to Cygwin which can run well over 100 MB depending upon options.

          This tool is unbelievably awesome, and lets you run xargs and cp and many other UNIX commands right on your Windows machine. I've successfully used @dudleydes process above on Windows to filter my lists and files quickly and efficiently.

          Bravo guys, awesome work!
          robotronman

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          • pjftP
            pjft @robotronman
            last edited by

            @robotronman said in FBA vs. MAME:

            First download and install Gow found here: https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/releases/

            Thank you for the tip! Had been looking for something like this for a while - I had something similar in the past, but I completely forgot the name of what I was using then, so this comes in handy!

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            • johnodonJ
              johnodon
              last edited by

              Just wanted to say that this thread is awesome and exactly what I was looking for. Replying so I don't lose it again! :)

              Thank you all for the hard work!

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              • AndersHPA
                AndersHP
                last edited by

                I'm really enjoying my new arcade folder also.

                To tidy things up completely, it could have been nice to base the lists on the non-mahjong and non-adult DAT files, but I guess that's just personal taste.

                My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                My Gameboy

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                • johnodonJ
                  johnodon
                  last edited by

                  What do you guys think about adding the Neogeo set under FBA?

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                  • AndersHPA
                    AndersHP @johnodon
                    last edited by

                    @johnodon if anyone has a NeoGeo gamelist with zip files listed, I can make an FBA list with these included.

                    Personally, I like to have NeoGeo games listed under the NeoGeo system folder.

                    My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                    My Gameboy

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                    • johnodonJ
                      johnodon @AndersHP
                      last edited by

                      @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                      @johnodon if anyone has a NeoGeo gamelist with zip files listed, I can make an FBA list with these included.

                      Personally, I like to have NeoGeo games listed under the NeoGeo system folder.

                      I think this is close to all of them (bios file removed from list):

                      2020bb.zip
                      3countb.zip
                      alpham2.zip
                      androdun.zip
                      aodk.zip
                      aof.zip
                      aof2.zip
                      aof3.zip
                      bangbead.zip
                      bjourney.zip
                      blazstar.zip
                      breakrev.zip
                      bstars.zip
                      bstars2.zip
                      burningf.zip
                      crsword.zip
                      ctomaday.zip
                      cyberlip.zip
                      doubledr.zip
                      eightman.zip
                      fatfursp.zip
                      fatfury1.zip
                      fatfury2.zip
                      fatfury3.zip
                      fbfrenzy.zip
                      fightfev.zip
                      flipshot.zip
                      galaxyfg.zip
                      ganryu.zip
                      garou.zip
                      ghostlop.zip
                      goalx3.zip
                      gowcaizr.zip
                      gpilots.zip
                      gururin.zip
                      irrmaze.zip
                      joyjoy.zip
                      kabukikl.zip
                      karnovr.zip
                      kizuna.zip
                      kof2000.zip
                      kof2001.zip
                      kof2002.zip
                      kof2003.zip
                      kof94.zip
                      kof95.zip
                      kof96.zip
                      kof97.zip
                      kof98.zip
                      kof99.zip
                      kotm.zip
                      kotm2.zip
                      lastblad.zip
                      lastbld2.zip
                      lbowling.zip
                      legendos.zip
                      lresort.zip
                      magdrop2.zip
                      magdrop3.zip
                      maglord.zip
                      matrim.zip
                      miexchng.zip
                      mslug.zip
                      mslug2.zip
                      mslug3.zip
                      mslug4.zip
                      mslug5.zip
                      mslugx.zip
                      mutnat.zip
                      nam1975.zip
                      ncombat.zip
                      ncommand.zip
                      neobombe.zip
                      neocup98.zip
                      neodrift.zip
                      neomrdo.zip
                      ninjamas.zip
                      nitd.zip
                      overtop.zip
                      panicbom.zip
                      pbobbl2n.zip
                      pbobblen.zip
                      pgoal.zip
                      pnyaa.zip
                      popbounc.zip
                      preisle2.zip
                      pspikes2.zip
                      pulstar.zip
                      puzzledp.zip
                      rbff1.zip
                      rbff2.zip
                      rbffspec.zip
                      ridhero.zip
                      roboarmy.zip
                      rotd.zip
                      s1945p.zip
                      samsh5sp.zip
                      samsho.zip
                      samsho2.zip
                      samsho3.zip
                      samsho4.zip
                      samsho5.zip
                      savagere.zip
                      sdodgeb.zip
                      sengoku.zip
                      sengoku2.zip
                      sengoku3.zip
                      shocktr2.zip
                      shocktro.zip
                      socbrawl.zip
                      sonicwi2.zip
                      sonicwi3.zip
                      spinmast.zip
                      ssideki.zip
                      ssideki2.zip
                      ssideki3.zip
                      ssideki4.zip
                      stakwin.zip
                      stakwin2.zip
                      strhoop.zip
                      superspy.zip
                      tophuntr.zip
                      tpgolf.zip
                      turfmast.zip
                      twinspri.zip
                      tws96.zip
                      viewpoin.zip
                      wakuwak7.zip
                      wh1.zip
                      wh2.zip
                      wh2j.zip
                      whp.zip
                      wjammers.zip
                      zedblade.zip
                      zupapa.zip

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                      • AndersHPA
                        AndersHP @johnodon
                        last edited by AndersHP

                        @johnodon I've added an lr-fbalpha list including NeoGeo games here. Hope this is helpful.

                        My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                        My Gameboy

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                        • johnodonJ
                          johnodon
                          last edited by johnodon

                          If anyone wants a shortcut to all of this, here is a link to my emulators.cfg. If you see anything wrong, let me know.

                          https://pastebin.com/NJNcqmH5

                          2278 games total
                          43 advmame
                          1613 lr-fbalpha
                          640 lr-mame2003
                          2 lr-mame2010

                          John

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                            barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                            @andershp You mention "sound glitches" in rtype and gyruss, could you be a little more precise ? Also, those glitches happen with any sound setting (samplerate, sample interpolation & fm interpolation) in the core options ?
                            Those games should run flawlessly considering their cpu usage, so perhaps there is some glitch which needs to be reported to the fbalpha team.

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                            • tashmanT
                              tashman
                              last edited by

                              I'm not sure if anyone is keeping a definitive list but in addition - footchmp.zip, euroch92.zip and hattrick.zip all have poor sound in the intros and for the in game "voice over" in lr-fbalpha. No issues in lr-mame2003/2010 and mame4all (Rpi 3 stock settings). It may improve with tweaks but it's better to choose an emulator that works right away.

                              Is it worth reporting these to the FBA alpha team?

                              Also a massive thanks to everyone involved in putting all this together. It has kept me busy this weekend!

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                                barbudreadmon @tashman
                                last edited by

                                @tashman said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                Is it worth reporting these to the FBA alpha team?

                                If this is bad enough to make people choose another emulator, i think it is.
                                Btw, hattrick can't have poor sound in fba since it is not emulated at all.

                                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                • tashmanT
                                  tashman @barbudreadmon
                                  last edited by

                                  @barbudreadmon to be honest I made the assumption about hattrick as it's the same game.

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                                    barbudreadmon
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                                    @AndersHP @tashman So i tried rtype, footchmp, euroch92 and gyruss in mame2003, and while i didn't notice the "poor sound" or "sound glitches" you mentioned for the first 3, there is definitely something off with fbalpha's gyruss sound, so i bumped an old topic about gyruss sound upstream : http://neo-source.com/index.php?topic=2490.0

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                      barbudreadmon
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                                      @AndersHP The difference between mame and fbalpha for gyruss is only the balance, i just patched it in lr-fbalpha, let me know what do you think about the new one.

                                      PS : i still don't know what are your sound glitches in rtype.

                                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                      • AndersHPA
                                        AndersHP
                                        last edited by AndersHP

                                        Sorry for being so passive here, I will check these out ASAP.
                                        As for Gyruss, it's the spawning sound that's off in fba. Very fuzzy. It's much better and sharper sounding in MAME2003.

                                        Rtype I had actual soundglitches in, but will test again soon.

                                        @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                        i just patched it in lr-fbalpha, let me know what do you think about the new one.

                                        How do I get this? Just update my lr-fbalpha emulator? Or are we talking new romsets?

                                        My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                        My Gameboy

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                                          barbudreadmon @AndersHP
                                          last edited by

                                          @andershp just update from sources

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                            barbudreadmon @AndersHP
                                            last edited by

                                            @andershp So, how did it turn out ? I think it's better than before, not sure it will be to your liking though, keep in mind that :

                                            • this is the favorite game of dink (the fba upstream developper who provided me this patch), so his main objective was to match his own likings.
                                            • the sound and balance for this game in mame2003 weren't considered perfect, and had several patches since then, i don't know how the current ones sound.

                                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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