ripoff.zip audio?

Alturis · 12 Feb 2018, 17:21

@alturis Ok. I am away from my pi for the day, so when I get back I will verify unless someone beats me to it.

It might be worth the time to check another title to make sure we are not troubleshooting samples when we should be troubleshooting audio in general, either for AdvMAME or for the Pi overall.

Oh well yes I do get audio for every other game. Its not an audio issue with the hardware or connectivity etc. Audio works fine for all other games and other games using advmame as well. ( I am only using advmame for vector games and spy hunter so just a handful )

caver01 · 2 Dec 2018, 17:27

@alturis Something to try is swapping in a sample file from another romset. For example, set .37b5 used for MAME4all is an older set. I know, this is typically bad advice, but my thinking is that some of the supposed .106 sets out there have bogus sample files. I have run across this before, as if someone who built the set just threw in the samples they thought were correct, and maybe some were, but they never bothered to verify all.

I think I saw this happen once with dkong (mario's squeaky shoes) and the big explosion from Galaga.

markwkidd · 2 Dec 2018, 20:42

@caver01 said in ripoff.zip audio?:

@alturis Something to try is swapping in a sample file from another romset. For example, set .37b5 used for MAME4all is an older set. I know, this is typically bad advice, but my thinking is that some of the supposed .106 sets out there have bogus sample files. I have run across this before, as if someone who built the set just threw in the samples they thought were correct, and maybe some were, but they never bothered to verify all.

I think I saw this happen once with dkong (mario's squeaky shoes) and the big explosion from Galaga.

For no good reason MAME DAT files don't specify sample CRCs (well, it's because mamedev won't endorse any particular sample evidently). Samples are the wild west of MAME collections -- you might get anything. As long as there is a WAV with the right name it will validate in ClrMamePro.

caver01 · 12 Feb 2018, 17:31

@markwkidd said in ripoff.zip audio?:

you might get anything. As long as there is a WAV with the right name it will validate in ClrMamePro.

Well, that explains my examples! I never made a big deal about it because I wasn't building/verifying them myself, but I guess it would not have made any difference.

Thanks for the input. It is nice to have at least some logic behind my recommendation.

caver01 · 13 Feb 2018, 02:08

@alturis My ripoff.zip file is exactly the same size as yours.

I do have mine located in a different folder, however. I moved my samples to the BIOS folder like lr-mame2003:
dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame-advmame/samples

I also noticed that in a copy of the original .rc file, the directory is specified as:
dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/samples

Notice how samples here is plural, but the folder itself is not. That will not work. You should double check that your folder name matches the line in your .rc file.

Alturis · 13 Feb 2018, 15:50

@caver01 said in ripoff.zip audio?:

You should double check that your folder name matches the line in your .rc file.

Yeah, I did double check that before.

dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/configs/mame-advmame/sample

I will try it out in the bios folder like yours instead of the configs folder.

caver01 · 13 Feb 2018, 16:49

@alturis I took another look through the advancemame documentation and I cannot find anything else to try in terms of MAME configuration. Is it possible Rip Off has a maintenance mode setting to turn off audio? If so, I don't remember ever enabling this, bit I might have years ago. I don't even know if the game has this choice, but every game is different.

If anyone else is looking at this thread that could check, would you mind trying ripoff.zip in advancemame with samples to see if there is any audio? I have audio working fine. @Alturis does not.

Alturis · 14 Feb 2018, 04:21

@alturis said in ripoff.zip audio?:

I will try it out in the bios folder like yours instead of the configs folder.

Tried this out and no change in result. Doesnt seem to matter where I put the samples and point the .rc I get no audio for ripoff.zip.

I will install another advmame game that uses samples and test that out soon too.

Alturis · 14 Feb 2018, 14:00

It actually took me a bit to find a game had the combination of using samples, the rom existing in the set I had, and working.

I tested out Zektor and am getting the same results. No sound what so ever.

I ran the test with my new setup of the .rc pointing to

dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/bios/mame-advmame/samples

And that folder containing the samples ripoff.zip and zektor.zip for testing.

caver01 · 14 Feb 2018, 17:16

@alturis On my system, the BIOS folder is capitalized. It makes a difference in the path. They have to match exactly.

Alturis · 14 Feb 2018, 23:54

@caver01 said in ripoff.zip audio?:

@alturis On my system, the BIOS folder is capitalized. It makes a difference in the path. They have to match exactly.

Hmm... I could try that but on my system, the bios folder is all lower case. At least when doing a ls command.

Oh no, would you look at that. Mine IS also all caps. Huh. I'll try that.

Alturis · 14 Feb 2018, 23:59

Son of a b**ch! How about that. It worked now. So what have we learned I guess?

AdvMame samples cannot be located in your /opt/retropie/configs folder
There may be more restrictions on this but the BIOS folder is a good place and also conveniently similar to mame2003 and fba.
Make sure your BIOS folder is properly capitalized. In windows, it will appear as "bios" when accessed via \\RETROPIE but in Linux it is actually "BIOS" most likely.
Make sure you update your /opt/retropie/configs/mame-advmame/advmame.rc file to have the dir_sample refer to the folder you create.

Thank you @caver01 for pointing out what a dolt I was. ;)

Edit: And for so diligently helping a guy out.

caver01 · 15 Feb 2018, 00:26

@alturis No problem. Hey, it had to be SOMETHING. I still think these files could be located anywhere the emulator can see. I would hate to waste more time on root cause, but I will say that for a time, several revs back, I was using a default location for AdvMAME samples before moving them to BIOS. It should work there.

Alturis · 15 Feb 2018, 13:02

@alturis said in ripoff.zip audio?:

AdvMame samples cannot be located in your /opt/retropie/configs folder

Actually, nope. Again it was my error. Looking back at my previous posts this path does not exist.

dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/configs/mame-advmame/sample

I am sure it would have been fine if it just referred to a proper path

dir_sample /opt/retropie/configs/mame-advmame/sample

caver01 · 15 Feb 2018, 16:54

@alturis oh wow. I didn't even notice that. good catch.