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    N64 crashes after 10 min

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    • BuZzB
      BuZz administrators @quicksilver
      last edited by

      @quicksilver I meant Jessie and older Gliden64. The bug is not limited to Stretch basically. Will need to debug more in the future.

      To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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        Bobberella
        last edited by

        "that's just the amount it needs :) try telling that to all the people who overclock their pi3 cpus, though..."

        Hmm.... so overclocking the cpu doesnt do anything?

        I thought it was for stability reasons.

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        • jonnykeshJ
          jonnykesh @Bobberella
          last edited by

          @bobberella overclocking introduces instability. If you actually monitor the CPU cores whilst running emulators you can see that none of them are actually that taxing. You get the odd spike that a mild overclock may smooth out but nothing really that noticeable.

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          • quicksilverQ
            quicksilver @Bobberella
            last edited by quicksilver

            @bobberella Stability and performance are two different things. Overclocking the GPU will make N64 games run a little bit better because you will be able to get better FPS. Hence your performance is increased. Overclocking the CPU will do nothing for you (or nearly nothing) when it comes to N64 emulation on the Pi. However, increasing the clock speeds of the CPU and GPU beyond their default settings can make your system unstable if you push them beyond their capabilities. Making something run faster than intended will never make it more stable than it was originally.

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              Bobberella
              last edited by

              So how often does retropie get updated? If the glitch wont be fixed with this release then.... when?

              I will have to keep an extra retropie around that has all the games that run glideN64 so I can limit the corruption to a single 16gig SD card. Lol

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              • dankcushionsD
                dankcushions Global Moderator @Bobberella
                last edited by

                @bobberella you can see in this thread its being investigated. it will be ready when it's ready.

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                  Bobberella @dankcushions
                  last edited by

                  didnt mean to be an arse.

                  Thanks for everyrhing you guys do.

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                    Bobberella
                    last edited by

                    I have a copy of retropie v4.2 with glideN64 version 7 with no glitch.

                    So I updated glide64 to version 13 and I still have no glitch.

                    I guess that would mean retropie 4.3 has something changed in it that is causing the issue.

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                      Bobberella
                      last edited by

                      So running retropie 4.2 and glideN64 v.7 I had no glitch... then I updated mupen64plus and I had glideN64 v. 13 and I still had no glitch.

                      When I "install/update all main packages from source" it caused the game to glitch.

                      But when I just updated "mupen64plus" from source it didnt cause the glitch...

                      And I am still running on retropie 4.2...

                      Feels like I am missing something. Lol

                      Maybe by updating all main packages there is something else installed besides the individual emulators?

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                      • EndersEnigmaE
                        EndersEnigma @simonster
                        last edited by

                        @simonster
                        It is hard to get Mario64 to crash using glide in my experience on a 3B board, it just blurs for about 30 seconds then recovers. Have you tried any other games? I find Banjo Kazooie, Quest64, Aerofighters Assault, and Beetle adventure racing crash very consistently. I am curious on how the 3b+ handles those games using GLIDE.

                        If you hold your Pi out the window while driving 40+ mph, the performance is improved significantly.

                        True story.

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                        • quicksilverQ
                          quicksilver @EndersEnigma
                          last edited by

                          Found this Reddit post from over a year ago:

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/5tlx8h/zelda_oot_weird_issue

                          The second part of the post he describes how glide glitches out after playing for a while. I think this issue has been around for a long time and was never reported properly.

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                          • Drakaen391D
                            Drakaen391
                            last edited by

                            Hadn’t glide always had issues? Or am I thinking about rice?

                            RPi B & RPi 3B OC (Now Raspberry pi 4b 8gb)
                            Retropie (Latest Stable)
                            PiBox with Wind Tunnel Cooling System

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                            • dankcushionsD
                              dankcushions Global Moderator @Drakaen391
                              last edited by dankcushions

                              @drakaen391 all N64 HLE plugins have issues. Gliden64 is just about the only one being actively developed, though.

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                              • RanmaR
                                Ranma
                                last edited by

                                I'm sure I'll be shouted down for this, but I've pretty much switched all my N64 stuff over to lr-mupen64plus now. It runs much better than it used to. I will add that my Pi 3 runs at 720p with slight overclock, and lr-mupen is at 640x480. GlideN64 is great but you need a powerful device to run it imho. I use it on Android (Mupen64 FZ) and the dev considers anything less than a Shield as a "low-end device". GlideN64 on the Pi, despite lowering the resolution right down to 240p still results in poor performance for me.

                                I honestly think it's time to reassess lr-mupen64plus on the Pi, as it's much better for me than it used to be. Not perfect but much better than it was. Only the occasional game uses one of the other plugins.

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                                • quicksilverQ
                                  quicksilver @Ranma
                                  last edited by

                                  @ranma I partially agree with you. For now it may be best to utilize other N64 emulators/plugins. However for most games Lr-mupen64 is slower or has compatibility issues so I dont think its a perfect solution. There are a handful of games I have found lr-mupen64 to actually run better but not many overall.

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                                  • matchamanM
                                    matchaman
                                    last edited by

                                    lr-mupen64plus is working fine for me. For whoever experiences the aforementioned bug, switching to this RA core is a very good idea. On my non-OC 3B+ the vast majority of games run without issues whatseover.

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                                    • EndersEnigmaE
                                      EndersEnigma @matchaman
                                      last edited by

                                      Has anyone replicated this issue using a stretch image on a 3B+ ? If not I might be able to provide some info on how it performs this coming week.

                                      If you hold your Pi out the window while driving 40+ mph, the performance is improved significantly.

                                      True story.

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                                      • quicksilverQ
                                        quicksilver @EndersEnigma
                                        last edited by

                                        @endersenigma I'm pretty sure buzz replicated the issue on stretch

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                                        • EndersEnigmaE
                                          EndersEnigma @quicksilver
                                          last edited by

                                          @quicksilver
                                          Ah, gotcha. Standing by for solution then, lol. Thanks again for all your help.
                                          @BuZz @dankcushions
                                          Thank you again for looking into this issue. If there is anything I can do to assist just reach out. :D

                                          If you hold your Pi out the window while driving 40+ mph, the performance is improved significantly.

                                          True story.

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                                            Bobberella
                                            last edited by

                                            Any update?

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