Launching Quake and it's extras (1 year anniversary release)

cyperghost

@benmclean Well I'm also stuck with Quake Rally on my Pi0 now... It won't work :(
Maybe I can find out the error ...

Semper 5

I was able to get Quake, Hipnotic, and DOPA going great (thank you for a GREAT tutorial and scripts!) but Rogue is a PITA.

What I noticed is that Rogue actually interferes with DOPA and original Quake. If i exclude rogue.pak from my id1 folder, the 3 other scripts work great.

But as soon as I put the Rogue.pak in that folder it takes over original Quake and the DOPA scripts - so when I choose DOPA or original Quake it always runs Rogue

cyperghost

@Semper-5
The scripts are not needed anymore (afaik) and it is better to setup it like in the wiki.

Anyway - I use this method up to now, too :)
The trick is to rename each file
the basefiles pak0.pak and pak1.pak keep untouched
pak2 from rogue must be renamed rogue.pak and if you start the game. The scripts will take action and do some renaming and lr-tyrquake will see pak0, pak1 and pak2 and launch the titles.

The same must be done for dopa and hipnotic. If you end the script the names will be reverted back. So pak2.pak will be reverted back to rogue.pak

You may check the file renaming during gaming and after returning back to ES?

But as I said - better use the wiki style @psyke83 did a great job

Semper 5

wow you're quick haha.

just to post an update that I found to fix the problem I just put the expansions in their own folders. pak0 and pak1 i left in the home (id1) folder

thanks again for the help buddy :)

(on an offshoot question - which is better to use emulatorwise? darkplaces or lr-tyrquake? rendering in darkplaces is pretty impressive for just a pi)

mitu

@semper-5 Both darkplaces and lr-tyrquake are not emulators, they're open source Quake engines, compiled natively for the PI. I think DP has more features and tries to be compatible with most mods, while tyrquake leans towards the original look and feel.

Semper 5

@mitu damn, I apologize...I KEEP saying emulator when I mean port/engine/etc (force of habit) and I have been called out on numerous occasions lol >_-
but thank you for your opinion on the 2 :) I find DP has a very very small bit of jitter/lag to it only at action-packed sequences, but I can't justify giving it up due to the rendering and ease of access

mitu

@semper-5 DP has a big advantage IMHO over tyrquake - it's one of the few engines that can play the Nehahra mod. If you haven't played it, I strongly recommend it.

Semper 5

@mitu Nehara looks BEAUTIFUL! thanks for the recommendation!
2 questions though: I see 5 PAK files, which of these would I actually use and would I be making individual scripts for each?

I was expecting just one big PAK file

mitu

@semper-5 create a nehahra folder with all the packs, sitting side by side with the default id folder (I think the download from https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/nehahra.html already has the right folder structure) then launch DP with the -nehahra parameter and it should work.

Semper 5

@mitu I extracted the contents of the nehara.zip with nehara folder containing the packs, all next to the id1 folder.

screenshot

do you have a pastebin of what my script should look like? I'm a bit confused how I can relate the windows command to what it should be in retropie

mitu

@semper-5 How do you launch other Quake mods ? What script(s) are you using ? Btw, you can safely delete all the .exe files in there.

Semper 5

@mitu thanks, that'll reduce the clutter hehe.
i use the scripts mentioned at the top of this thread

cyperghost

@semper-5 Well these scripts are outdated ;) - I told you. Of course you can use them but they aren't needed.

mitu

@semper-5 Man, what an ugly hack ! Try creating a Nehahra.sh launch file containing just

"/opt/retropie/supplementary/runcommand/runcommand.sh" 0 _PORT_ "quake" "-nehahra"

I'll try installing DP in RetroPie and dig up my Quake install files to check it out.

Semper 5

@mitu I had literally just finished creating a script exactly as you described haha. unfortunately it didn't work. it just goes to regular quake. do you think I should be pointing it to the pak0.pak in the nehara folder?

@cyperghost I was afraid to destroy all your work but reducing over 100 lines to just 1 was a lot less painless than I thought :D

cyperghost

@semper-5 No problem. It was a sneak hack as lr-tyrquake wasn't able to launch addons. As there was only one save location (ID1) and lr-tyrquake used always same save structure I created zip files to store addons savegames per file.

@mitu Not ugly ;) SNEAK ;) I think one of my first bash attempts.

mitu

@semper-5 said in Launching Quake and it's extras (1 year anniversary release):

do you think I should be pointing it to the pak0.pak in the nehara folder?

I don't think it's enough, DP needs the -nehahra switch to know it should run some specific Nehahra code. I'll try to whip up a script, but first I must convince Steam to download my Quake1 files.

cyperghost

@mitu @Semper-5

Can you discuss this please in a new thread?
I think a small "how to install nehara"-thread would be better as it's a DP mod and can't be run in lr-tyrquake.