Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.

Clyde

@udb23 said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

@douga Oops... You're right... too much work on arcade artwork today.. getting tired.

And I made him do it, so it's partly my fault, too. O:)

UDb23

@clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

And I made him do it, so it's partly my fault, too. O:)

lol.
No that's not true; at least not totally ;-)
I'm working (WIP) on multiple challenging bezels and marquees; today in particular for Nibbler (another nice vertical game), Crazy Ballon and Caveman ninja.
Challenging 'cause either no decent resolution scan / cabinet image can be found or scanned high res badly damaged (requiring patient restoration work).

Clyde

@udb23 You mean that I'm not as important as I think? 😭

quicksilver

@douga Mappy is one that comes to my mind

BennyProfane

One under-appreciated vertical game is Gain Ground on the Sega consoles. Can take some time to get into but can be fun in multiplayer.

pjft

@bennyprofane I didn't recall that one being vertical, but you may certainly be right. Runs great on AdvMame.

I believe Bomb Jack and Spy Hunter would also be good additions there.

UDb23

@pjft said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

Bomb Jack

Yes, great game.

btw: Gain ground is vertical according to progettoemma.

Clyde

@pjft I second you on Spy Hunter, but it may require some work to make it playable. It has issues at least on vanilla Mame 2003 (it spawns a non-removable Mame menu over the game) and it was originally controlled by a steering wheel and pedals that have to be mapped to analog or digital controllers without a wheel. Did you make it work on Retropie? If so, how exactly?

@DougA If you're interested in this great game, see this forum thread about its issues and some potential solutions: Spy Hunter

wstanek

Zookeeper, Rally X, Qix, Pooyan.

Oops Pooyan is a shmup.

markwkidd

@clyde is there a github issue filed yet for Spy Hunter?

Clyde

@markwkidd Alas, I don't know. I searched https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/issues and https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues. I found the following issues, but I lack the expertise to say if they're relevant for the popping up of the mame menu.

markwkidd

@clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

@markwkidd Alas, I don't know. I searched https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/issues and https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues. I found the following issues, but I lack the expertise to say if they're relevant for the popping up of the mame menu.

https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/issues/121

https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues/34

Thank you for taking the time to look through those github repositories.Based on your experience, I think this is a distinct bug from those two issues. If you're willing, I'd like to suggest you create a new github issue in mame2003-plus just for your Spy Hunter problem.

I would be glad to take a look at it in a few days and there are some other developers active in mame2003-plus who might also have ideas.

DougA

@markwkidd Thanks. I will have a look, but I am no expert.

AndersHP

@caver01 I think your input to this thread could be helpful, since I think you must have been setting up your fair share of upright 4:3 games in your build?

caver01

@andershp No doubt. My cabinet is very similar to a vertical design, except that it is a 4-player cocktail. Horizontal games play from the long side, and vertical games play from controls on the ends. For the latter games, it is effectively a vertical setup since I am basically running them in manual 'tate' mode with the video rotated to fill the whole screen.

As for the games themselves, we are talking about many/most of the early, 4-way joystick arcade classics.

Tempest is vertical, requires a spinner
Centipede --trackball
Popeye
Punch out
APB - All Points Bulletin
Journey
Tetris (I always use the cocktail version for inverted head to head play)
Commando

Somewhere, there is a MAME list of just the vertical games. That might be worth finding. I can never remember all of my favorites.

caver01

@caver01 Somebody needs to mention Time Pilot. There. I did.

markwkidd

@clyde I just tried spyhunt.zip in mame2003-plus and I don't see the problem. :confused:

mediamogul

@markwkidd said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

I just tried spyhunt.zip in mame2003-plus and I don't see the problem.

I haven't tested it myself, but the work done recently concerning the MCR Midway titles is likely to have fixed this.

Clyde

@markwkidd Alas, I can't test it on mame2003-plus because it fails to build in Retropie at the moment. :( I didn't have the time to try the workarounds suggested in the issue's comments, yet. I may do so this weekend.

@caver01: I didn't mention Time Pilot because the TO explicitly asked for non-shooters. It's one of my all time favorites, although I only played it on the C64 back in the old days. I recently played the arcade version and was surprised how good at it I still was, being now in my late forties. ;)

caver01

@clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

I didn't mention Time Pilot because the TO explicitly asked for non-shooters

I wondered about that. For some reason, I don't think of TP the same way as other shoot em ups. Maybe because you can fly in any direction it feels somehow different. To me it is more of a dogfight game.