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Arcade edition Donkey Kong Jr. The problem that the BGM which is so goes off

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    quicksilver @barbudreadmon
    last edited by 13 Jun 2018, 21:51

    @barbudreadmon I guess you can sympathize then ;)

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      edmaul69 @steptoe
      last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 01:48

      @steptoe anything past mame2003 on the pi dont need sample sets any more. They did away with those on like mame .116 or somewhere around there

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        A Former User @edmaul69
        last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 04:41

        @edmaul69 Thank you very much! If I installed MAME 2016 and made them work with that, a problem was corrected! It seems to be a problem of MAME2010, MAME2003 and FBA!

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          A Former User @mitu
          last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 04:50

          @mitu I'm sorry,
          Pi Model or other hardware: 3B
          RetroPie Version:4.4.1
          USB Devices connected:No
          Controller used:Yes,
          Buffalo USB Super Nintendo PC Game Pad
          https://usb.brando.com/buffalo-usb-super-nintendo-pc-game-pad_p01551c0048d015.html

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            edmaul69 @A Former User
            last edited by edmaul69 14 Jun 2018, 05:22

            @tenmabashi also donkey kong locks up in mame2010 but is working great in mame2016.

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              mitu Global Moderator @A Former User
              last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 05:23

              @tenmabashi said in Arcade edition Donkey Kong Jr. The problem that the BGM which is so goes off:

              It seems to be a problem of MAME2010, MAME2003 and FBA!

              As others have explained, certain emulators need the samples available for sounds to work. It's not a problem per se with the emulator.

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                edmaul69 @mitu
                last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 05:27

                @mitu with lr-mame2010 it doesnt need the samples. Both donkey kong and donkey kong jr have problems in lr-mame2010 but work fine with any romset after .116 in lr-mame2016.

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                  markwkidd @edmaul69
                  last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 05:35

                  @edmaul69 said in Arcade edition Donkey Kong Jr. The problem that the BGM which is so goes off:

                  @steptoe anything past mame2003 on the pi dont need sample sets any more. They did away with those on like mame .116 or somewhere around there

                  mame2010/0.139 does still use samples, although not for the Donkey Kong games I believe.

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                    mediamogul Global Moderator
                    last edited by mediamogul 14 Jun 2018, 05:37

                    It may be worth noting that both games are also fully functional in AdvanceMAME. Seeing as how these issues didn't exist in MAME 0.78 or 0.139, I guess they stem from the libretro core conversions, similar to the Midway MCR issues that were recently ironed out.

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                      edmaul69 @markwkidd
                      last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 05:40

                      @markwkidd yeah sorry to not state that i was referring to the donkey kong games. Several of the nintendo games dont use the samples anymore.

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                        markwkidd @mediamogul
                        last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 05:42

                        @mediamogul said in Arcade edition Donkey Kong Jr. The problem that the BGM which is so goes off:

                        It may be worth noting that both games are also fully functional in AdvanceMAME. Seeing as how these issues didn't exist in MAME 0.78 or 0.139, I guess they stem from the libretro core conversions, similar to the Midway MCR issues that were recently ironed out.

                        Ah, I didn't catch the fact that the games work in the original MAME versions. If that's true for 0.78 then there I guess an issue post would be appropriate in the mame2003-plus repo. :toot toot: lol

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                          edmaul69 @mediamogul
                          last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 05:43

                          @mediamogul yeah something made lr-mame2010 go wrong. It no longer has frameskip and a lot of previously working games like the golden tees and donkey kong lock up now.

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                            mediamogul Global Moderator @markwkidd
                            last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 05:46

                            @markwkidd

                            I guess an issue post would be appropriate in the mame2003-plus repo. :toot toot: lol

                            You guys don't ever get to rest do you? Are you planning on starting an issue, or would you like me to?

                            yeah something made lr-mame2010 go wrong. It no longer has frameskip and a lot of previously working games like the golden tees and donkey kong lock up now.

                            Do you remember any kind of rough time frame as to when this might have happened?

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                              edmaul69 @mediamogul
                              last edited by edmaul69 14 Jun 2018, 05:56

                              @mediamogul as soon as i went to 4.4 with the new retroarch. Acts the same when i stuck lr-mame2010 from jessie on 4.4. Thats at least when I noticed. I dont have jessie anymore to test.

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                                markwkidd @mediamogul
                                last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 06:24

                                @mediamogul said in Arcade edition Donkey Kong Jr. The problem that the BGM which is so goes off:

                                You guys don't ever get to rest do you? Are you planning on starting an issue, or would you like me to?

                                I'm at the beginning of a multiday road trip. If you're willing to create the issue then I would be grateful :) This thread caught my attention because there was this one time when I unknowingly screwed up sample support in mame2003 and I wanted to make sure history was not repeatin.

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                                  mediamogul Global Moderator @markwkidd
                                  last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 06:34

                                  @markwkidd said in Arcade edition Donkey Kong Jr. The problem that the BGM which is so goes off:

                                  I'm at the beginning of a multiday road trip. If you're willing to create the issue then I would be grateful :)

                                  Not a problem. It's late here now, but I'll write it up in the morning.

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                                    mediamogul Global Moderator @edmaul69
                                    last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 06:43

                                    @edmaul69

                                    I'm taking for granted that I fully understand this situation. Can you confirm that both games lock up in lr-mame2003 and lr-mame2010? Also, do the audio issues exist in both cores for both games?

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                                      steptoe
                                      last edited by mitu 14 Jun 2018, 14:53

                                      I stumbled across a RetroPie arcade install, looking for similar or good starting point before I sat down and tried it myself, that has been done to include ONLY working ROMS from MAME, FBA and NEOGEO. Its a full install, ready to copy over and using MAME2010. You have to compile thsi from the optional menu and takes forever to compile. So far, every game I've tried has worked includings ones that wouldn't with my previous attempts trying to et MAMe ROMs to work and guessing which ones work or are non-working clones

                                      Its a 12.5GB total set, but it solved my headaches of arcade ROMs and what does or doesn't work in one go

                                      Search for [deleted], thats all I'm suggesting

                                      This is the info from the links :

                                      *Final version. All roms and all media.

                                      Here is my all inclusive arcade set. It combines mame2010, mame2003, and fbalpha in the arcade folder with best version of each game picked out.

                                      No clones, (except a couple I put in), no mahjong, no mature, no quiz, only trackball, racing, and light gun games that can be controller with a controller or joystick. 2 player and 4 player versions where available.

                                      Neogeo is together with the mame stuff. All goes in the arcade folder.*

                                      I'm not direct linking, just suggesting a search name so I'm guessing its allowed ??

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                                        mitu Global Moderator
                                        last edited by 14 Jun 2018, 15:49

                                        You're breaking the forum rules, please don't post references to ROMs/copyrighted material.

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