Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie

Riverstorm · 20 Jul 2016, 14:21

@dankcushions said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

@Riverstorm said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

@dankcushions said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

to avoid this happening I'm going to remove the default controller binding for the MAME menu (R2). it doesn't seem to be a useful default! i would like to give it a unique combo, but that's harder to code :)

Sorry Dank you can disregard my previous post. I was thinking retroarch.cfg and not default.cfg. My only question is how do you get into the Config Menu (Tab Key). When I flip over to mame4all-pi it's fine but when I am in lr-imame4all I can't get it to work. Is anyone using lr-imame4all able to get to the Config Menu?

according to the code it should be TAB - https://github.com/libretro/mame2000-libretro/blob/7eaacdd2b4bbec11f01e047cbfedf150acd01d08/src/inptport.c#L135

but maybe this isn't working? :( i don't think it would save any changes anyway if https://github.com/libretro/mame2000-libretro/issues/13 is to be believed...

I could do a quick test starting from scratch with the newest image? Would anything need updated from binary or source on the newest image that might affect lr-imame4all?

Riverstorm · 20 Jul 2016, 16:30

@dankcushions said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

according to the code it should be TAB - https://github.com/libretro/mame2000-libretro/blob/7eaacdd2b4bbec11f01e047cbfedf150acd01d08/src/inptport.c#L135
but maybe this isn't working? :( i don't think it would save any changes anyway if https://github.com/libretro/mame2000-libretro/issues/13 is to be believed...

I downloaded 4.0-beta 2 and it does not work but mame4all-pi it does work fine.

It's a tough call. In lr-imame4all you only have the default RetroPie keys (defined at the Configure Input screen on bootup) and what's configured by default in the emulator. So you can not customize any exceptions like Space Duel which doesn't work out of the box due to the selection button (you can insert coins but not select) or none of the dual joysticks games would work either and of course any customized games like Toobin' or driving games that can be tweaked through Input (General) to work on a joystick. No 4-player support either.

With lr-mame2003 no 4-player support, sound samples or artwork.

With mame4all-pi everything works from top to bottom but you loose some games, not many I would call classics though. You also loose that amazing DaveJ shader.

Setup as a new issue here:
https://github.com/libretro/mame2000-libretro/issues/25

dankcushions · 20 Jul 2016, 16:45

the mame2003 binaries have 4 player support fine? in very latest version samples has a bug but I've fixed that (coming soon). artwork apparently works fine.

hopefully someone will try and fix lr-imame4all someday, but I guess ideally mame2003 and up would cover everything

Riverstorm · 20 Jul 2016, 17:00

@dankcushions said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

the mame2003 binaries have 4 player support fine? in very latest version samples has a bug but I've fixed that (coming soon). artwork apparently works fine.

hopefully someone will try and fix lr-imame4all someday, but I guess ideally mame2003 and up would cover everything

Cool sound samples and artwork are nice for those few classics! :)

I agree I would like to see lr-mame2003 be the "it" emulator but I did open another ticket with lr-imame4all.

I can test lr-mame2003 on 4.0-beta 2. When using 3.7 and also updated I was able to enter the Config Menu and was able to configure all 4 joysticks with no issues. Then when I started Gauntlet I could only add coins and start player 1 or should it work for 4?

skrapps914 · 20 Jul 2016, 21:44

where do you have your roms ? are they in the arcade folder? or in the mame folders? ive had this issue too, tab not working in came, and came to realize, its because the arcade folder is making use of retroarch i think

all my roms are in the arcade folder

when i place them into the mame folder, the tab menu works again

Riverstorm · 20 Jul 2016, 22:33

@skrapps914 said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

when i place them into the mame folder, the tab menu works again

Which MAME folder are you placing them in?

skrapps914 · 20 Jul 2016, 22:59

@Riverstorm depends on the rom, certain roms need certain emulators to work, depending on the romset for the game

Riverstorm · 20 Jul 2016, 23:43

@skrapps914 said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

@Riverstorm depends on the rom, certain roms need certain emulators to work, depending on the romset for the game

Yes I know that I was just asking which folder you're using that the Tab key is working. As far as I know only lr-mame2003 works I was curious which is working for you.

Riverstorm · 20 Jul 2016, 23:47

@dankcushions said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

the mame2003 binaries have 4 player support fine?

Dank 4 players worked perfect on 4.0-beta 2 but I had to do this as suggested by Buzz to get the controllers working.

https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/issues/1277#issuecomment-233139295

gmoolena · 21 Jul 2016, 00:09

Just a quick update. I managed to resolve my immediate issue with the TAB key. I reinstall of retropie onto a fresh SD card. I spent 8+ hours trying to repair the TAB key and a reinstall was around 3 hours.
The only issue I had with the reinstall was getting the controllers to work from the GPIO but in the end found a forum article explaining how to fix it.

I will keep checking this entry as from what I googled, this has happened to multiple people. It would be nice to know how to manually update a file to fix it.

I don't know anything about unix, but as a thought is there a way to monitor all the files, and then reconfig the call up key within the menu and see what changes? Change it from TAB to something else? At least we could then work out what to fix/where to look next time.

skrapps914 · 21 Jul 2016, 06:28

@Riverstorm said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

@skrapps914 said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

@Riverstorm depends on the rom, certain roms need certain emulators to work, depending on the romset for the game

Yes I know that I was just asking which folder you're using that the Tab key is working. As far as I know only lr-mame2003 works I was curious which is working for you.

lr-imame4all and advancemame 94 both had working tab keys for me when i placed corresponding roms in their folders. in the arcade folder, tab wont work for me

caver01 · 21 Jul 2016, 06:35

@skrapps914 when the games launch out of the arcade folder, which mame is launching? You can specify using runcommand.

skrapps914 · 21 Jul 2016, 07:32

i'm not too advanced with it, but in the arcade folder, the default emulator used for games is lr-imame4all

Riverstorm · 21 Jul 2016, 14:59

@skrapps914 said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

i'm not too advanced with it, but in the arcade folder, the default emulator used for games is lr-imame4all

You can indeed get in to the TAB screen when using the Arcade folder? Would you be able to verify what MAME version you're running. When you launch the game there will be a blue rectangular splashscreen for a few seconds where you are able to see the emulator name that is running.

Just to verify what version of RetroPie are you using 3.8.1 or the new 4.0 beta build? It seems like it should not work as the same emulator is running regardless of the folder (Arcade or mame-mame4all) but you never know.

skrapps914 · 21 Jul 2016, 16:31

@Riverstorm said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

@skrapps914 said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

i'm not too advanced with it, but in the arcade folder, the default emulator used for games is lr-imame4all

You can indeed get in to the TAB screen when using the Arcade folder? Would you be able to verify what MAME version you're running. When you launch the game there will be a blue rectangular splashscreen for a few seconds where you are able to see the emulator name that is running.

Just to verify what version of RetroPie are you using 3.8.1 or the new 4.0 beta build? It seems like it should not work as the same emulator is running regardless of the folder (Arcade or mame-mame4all) but you never know.

oh no, i mean when i have the roms in the lr-imame4all or advancemame folders, the tab key works, when i put the roms in the arcade folder, the tab key doesnt work.

only mame2003 tab will work out of the arcade folder for me.

Riverstorm · 21 Jul 2016, 16:35

@skrapps914 said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

oh no, i mean when i have the roms in the lr-imame4all or advancemame folders

Thanks, well that would be interesting too. :) The lr-imame4all folder is actually /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-mame4all (mame4all-pi and lr-imame4all share the same folder) so when you have ROMs in that folder and launch a game is the emulator that flashes on the blue splashscreen say mame4all or lr-imame4all?

Riverstorm · 21 Jul 2016, 19:16

I was testing 4.0-beta 2 and it prompts for a default emulator on the first game boot from the Arcade folder. I tried lr-imame4all and TAB did not work. It works fine in mame4all-pi, lr-mame2003 & of course AdvMAME.

skrapps914 · 21 Jul 2016, 20:04

@Riverstorm said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

tab didnt work when the roms were in the lr-mameforall folder? strange

skrapps914 · 21 Jul 2016, 20:06

only reason i kind of figured it was the arcade folder that was disabling tab, is because i was desperately trying to get the spider-man videogame arcade game to work, and it wouldnt load, from any mame emulator

Riverstorm · 21 Jul 2016, 20:42

@skrapps914 said in Keyboard TAB key not working in MAME/Retroepie:

tab didnt work when the roms were in the lr-mameforall folder?

I was using 4.0-beta 2 and it didn't work in either mame-mame4all or the Arcade folder. I haven't tried 3.8.1 though if that's what you're using. It does work for you though?