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    Retroarch 1.7.5 causing FPS drops for CPS 3 games

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    • RedBatmanR
      RedBatman
      last edited by

      Hi so I was playing JOJO's Bizarre Adventure when I had noticed that there was some lag, so I decided to use the FPS counter and noticed that at times it would go to 54-55fps for a few seconds at a time. This wasn't happening on Retroarch 1.7.3 and the only shader I use is the Z-fast Crt shader.

      My pi model is the Raspberry Pi 3 Model B.

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      • BuZzB
        BuZz administrators @RedBatman
        last edited by

        @redbatman did you update all packages? I rebuilt the latest FBA in recent days. Can you provide more info - maybe downloading a 4.4 image and just updating retroarch to see.

        To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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        • RedBatmanR
          RedBatman
          last edited by RedBatman

          @buzz I did update all packages and to be safe I re downloaded FBA again and there was still lag. Actually I noticed something else too is that audio stutter happens with CPS3 games too. I tried Street Fighter 3 2nd impact and I was getting bad audio lag which was causing alot of issues with the FPS. CPS2 and Neo Geo games however run fine, both at 60fps or slightly above. So whatever happened to FBA recently affected CPS3 games. Please can you revert to a previous build?

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          • BuZzB
            BuZz administrators @RedBatman
            last edited by

            @redbatman not without more concrete information and other users being able to replicate the problem.

            To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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            • RedBatmanR
              RedBatman @BuZz
              last edited by

              @buzz Well I tested it and like I said only CPS3 games seem to be affected, I haven't done anything to change my settings in months and it was still fine till the latest retroarch/ fba

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              • DarksaviorD
                Darksavior
                last edited by Darksavior

                My pi3b+ underclocked to 1200 (for this test with SF3) was getting dips as low as 57fps for a fully updated retropie 4.4 with binaries of lr-fbalpha and Retroarch 1.7.5. No change when using 1.7.3.

                I dug out my original pi3 to re-test. Official Retropie 4.4 stock image. No updates. Stock speeds with crtpi shader at 1080p output res.SF3 Third Strike.

                Included binaries of lr-fbalpha 2.97.42 with Retroarch 1.7.1:
                60fps some of the time with dips as low as 59.5-59.7fps some of the time.

                lr-fbalpha 2.97.42 with Retroarch 1.7.5:
                60fps most of the time with dips as low as 59.7 maybe once or twice per round. Performs better.

                Updated binary of lr-fbalpha 2.97.43 with Retroarch 1.7.5:
                Bingo. 55-58fps. Scratchy audio. It's the emulator. Maybe @barbudreadmon can shed a light at the situation.

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                • RedBatmanR
                  RedBatman @Darksavior
                  last edited by

                  @Darksavior said in Retroarch 1.7.5 causing FPS drops for CPS 3 games:

                  My pi3b+ underclocked to 1200 (for this test with SF3) was getting dips as low as 57fps for a fully updated retropie 4.4 with binaries of lr-fbalpha and Retroarch 1.7.5. No change when using 1.7.3.

                  I dug out my original pi3 to re-test. Official Retropie 4.4 stock image. No updates. Stock speeds with crtpi shader at 1080p output res.SF3 Third Strike.

                  Included binaries of lr-fbalpha 2.97.42 with Retroarch 1.7.1:
                  60fps some of the time with dips as low as 59.5-59.7fps some of the time.

                  lr-fbalpha 2.97.42 with Retroarch 1.7.5:
                  60fps most of the time with dips as low as 59.7 maybe once or twice per round. Performs better.

                  Updated binary of lr-fbalpha 2.97.43 with Retroarch 1.7.5:
                  Bingo. 55-58fps. Scratchy audio. It's the emulator. Maybe @barbudreadmon can shed a light at the situation.

                  Pretty much my situation, don't know why the audio gets so bad.

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                  • DarksaviorD
                    Darksavior @RedBatman
                    last edited by Darksavior

                    @RedBatman If fps drops below 60 in any game then expect scratchy audio. The situation is the performance of fba, with at least the cps3 driver, got a huge slowdown with the latest version.

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                    • RedBatmanR
                      RedBatman
                      last edited by

                      Hmm so is there any way to roll back the update or is there going to be a fix eventually? CPS3 are some of my favorite arcade games.

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                      • DarksaviorD
                        Darksavior @RedBatman
                        last edited by Darksavior

                        @RedBatman No idea if it'll be fixed. Post the issue on fba's github. You can extract .42 from the official premade image.

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                          grant2258 Banned
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                          When an emulator improves sometimes it comes with a cost of speed. Other times its speed up hacks accidentally removed. Retropie runs on more than a pi.

                          If this problems exists on more powerful machines it would be a problem at that point.

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                          • RedBatmanR
                            RedBatman
                            last edited by

                            Hi I just wanted to say I found a fix. I downloaded Ir-fba-alpha2012. Once I used this my CPS3 games were back to 60fps with no audio stutters or anything. So just to let this be known that if FBA 2.97.43 ever gets fixed again or its still causing issues then FBA 2012 is now needed for CPS3 games now for raspberry pi users.

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                            • DarksaviorD
                              Darksavior @grant2258
                              last edited by

                              @grant2258 Yes, that's what I experienced with the 4player Konami games. I need to use fba2012 for my pi2 (when I was using it). Still, I'd like a definitive answer if the cps3 problem is a mistake, or just emulation accuracy making it slower.

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                                grant2258 Banned
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                                I only use that core havent looked at the code base to be honest just check the history in the cps3 driver in github to see the recent changes here.

                                https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha/commits/master/src/burn/drv/cps3/cps3run.cpp

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                                  grant2258 Banned
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                                  you could try revert d313472bf07332ee429a80f906252dca348975e5 commit compile and see how it runs

                                  https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha/commit/d313472bf07332ee429a80f906252dca348975e5#diff-d51bfb6a692321f4224209e955b76d48

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                                  • DarksaviorD
                                    Darksavior @grant2258
                                    last edited by

                                    @grant2258 No idea how to do that.

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                                    • RedBatmanR
                                      RedBatman @grant2258
                                      last edited by

                                      @grant2258 said in Retroarch 1.7.5 causing FPS drops for CPS 3 games:

                                      you could try revert d313472bf07332ee429a80f906252dca348975e5 commit compile and see how it runs

                                      https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha/commit/d313472bf07332ee429a80f906252dca348975e5#diff-d51bfb6a692321f4224209e955b76d48

                                      I don't know how to do that either. But if FBA 2012 works good still then I'm fine with it, just as long as the current fba doesn't get any worse.

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                                        DarishZone Banned
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                                        There's a way to revert to an older version of Retroarch?

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                                        • UDb23U
                                          UDb23 @RedBatman
                                          last edited by

                                          @RedBatman A new version is available. Is the issue still there ?

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                                          • DarksaviorD
                                            Darksavior
                                            last edited by Darksavior

                                            I retested using lr-fbalpha 2.97.44 from source. No change. To compare the differences to .42, using my pi3b+ overclocked to 1450, it runs as fast as a stock pi3 non + used to run at which is 60fps most of the time with dips of ~59.5-.7.

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