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    MAME ROW #120 - Cabal

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    • IanDaemonI
      IanDaemon
      last edited by

      Cabal is a good game even with the joystick. Granted it'd be more fun if we could use a light gun, but there are a few good "light gun games" that are fun with a joystick. I enjoy Cabal and Beast Busters even though I feel there's some more fun out of my reach.

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      • pjftP
        pjft
        last edited by

        A comment, if I may. If memory serves me right, I believe the original Cabal on MAME doesn't allow you to to the roll move with the joystick - this was accomplished by spinning the trackball really fast.

        I believe that there's a bootleg version on MAME that adds that move to a button, and perhaps FBA also has it mapped to a button in the original Cabal. I can't check right now, but will try tomorrow.

        My suggestion is, if others approve, to run it in FBA (if it does have that move mapped to a button - needs confirmation) or, alternatively, to play the bootleg version which I believe is cabalbl if FBA doesn't have that setup for the original Cabal.

        If not, we can also agree to play it as is, though it'll become somewhat harder than intended.

        Thanks!

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        • thelostsoulT
          thelostsoul @pjft
          last edited by thelostsoul

          @pjft The base version in FBA is actually a patched version working with joysticks. The roll is done through button press, I tested it. On FBA everything works fine. Mame2003 seems to be a prior base version without Joystick support, but did not test it. Mame2010 seems to be the same version as FBA, did not test it. I might change it back to Mame2010, as I like older games to be on Mame and newer games to be on FBA.

          FBA = Cabal (World, Joystick)
          Mame2003 = Cabal (US set 1)
          Mame2010 = Cabal (World, Joystick version)

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          • GtBFilmsG
            GtBFilms @thelostsoul
            last edited by

            I'm actually playing this one on my PC, which is running MAME 0.146.

            On that my third button is mapped to the roll action.

            Although by the time I remember to use it, it's generally too late!

            The only tactics I have so far are:

            When I see a helicopter, I concentrate on that.
            Ignore the grey grenade throwers running around until they start to throw as you can't shoot them until then.
            Shoot the stretcher bearers multiple times to stock up on grenades.
            When I see the plane, I get well out the way.
            On the third area, I always destroy those KEEP OUT gates at the back first, as once they are destroyed, you don't get the two grenade throwing guys popping out from behind them any more.

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            • V
              VictimRLSH
              last edited by VictimRLSH

              Cabal is another of my all time faves, but played the trackball version in arcade. There are more 'sudden' moves than just the roll. You can also jump left, right, and straight up, as well as roll in place without moving left or right.

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              • obsidianspiderO
                obsidianspider
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                This week's winner is Cabal

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                • GtBFilmsG
                  GtBFilms
                  last edited by

                  I'll set the cabal(l) rolling...

                  884170 (stage 3-1)

                  cabal.jpg

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                  • pjftP
                    pjft @GtBFilms
                    last edited by

                    @GtBFilms you could at least have waited a bit for us novices to give it a shot before posting this score. This way we're starting with our hopes already crushed :D

                    That's a fantastic score!

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                    • thelostsoulT
                      thelostsoul @GtBFilms
                      last edited by

                      @GtBFilms Wow, that looks awesome score! To be fair, I never played the game and don't know if its high, but I believe in @pjft when he says it is fantastic. 😂 Let's see how long you can stand there until we tear apart your score.
                      (Google translator was used, if something sounds weird, that's even better.)

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                      • GtBFilmsG
                        GtBFilms
                        last edited by GtBFilms

                        To be fair, it seemed a bit easier than I remember from the arcade. Probably having roll as a button instead of needing a spin on the trackball makes it easier - you are immune to everything, including tank shells, while rolling.

                        It's a shame this game reveals all its tricks (powerups and destroyable terrain) on the first stage, apart from the end of level boss, nothing much changes - and even the level 2 boss just seems to be a variation of the level 1 one.

                        My new tactic is to take out the trucks full of enemy soldiers before they get a chance to deploy - those are more trouble than even helicopters and tanks, as they have multiple enemies shooting in various directions, the helicopters and tanks shoot in a predictable manner and can be avoided (although it's still best to take them out before they get to shoot if possible)

                        I stockpiled grenades by shooting stretcher bearers then used as many as required on the bosses - throwing three grenades as a time in bursts meant the level 1 boss didn't even get a chance to return fire .

                        It just got too hectic by the third level to keep track of everything going on!

                        A great fun blaster though. I remember thinking at the time in the arcades that the comical run and music atbthebsend of each stage was out of place for such a game, but now I quite like it - gives the game a bit of character!

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                        • pjftP
                          pjft @GtBFilms
                          last edited by

                          @GtBFilms thanks for the precious tips!

                          My first attempt are a measly 212k, stage 1-4, even before the first boss. I'll try more in the coming days!

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                          • pjftP
                            pjft @pjft
                            last edited by

                            @GtBFilms so, today I played a few more times and reached stage 2-1, scoring 440,630. Still nowhere close to your score :D

                            I'm curious about your statement about "I stockpiled grenades by shooting stretcher bearers then used as many as required on the bosses - throwing three grenades as a time in bursts meant the level 1 boss didn't even get a chance to return fire .".

                            It takes quite a few grenades to kill the level 1 boss, though, right? That was more of a figure of speech than anything else, I assume?

                            To be fair, though, the level 1 boss probably didn't need grenades, I feel?

                            I'll give it a couple more tries. :)

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                            • thelostsoulT
                              thelostsoul
                              last edited by thelostsoul

                              So hello guys, I had a few runs now and still try to get to stage 1-4. My current score is 144'040 and a screen follows if I improve. It is the first time I play this game, I quite like it (especially the title screen). Let's see if I can catch up. :D

                              EDIT: Ah, now I got it. I have to press fast and short to shoot and if I hold the button, he stops moving. That makes sense, then its fine and the cursor speed is no issue.
                              If I shoot, my character is not able to move. So shooting and moving at same time seems not possible. I have a second question about the cursor speed. I don't know the original game and don't know if my cursor is slow. Did you guys change it somehow or is the default speed authentic?

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                              • thelostsoulT
                                thelostsoul
                                last edited by

                                Finally it is playable to me. Here is what i got, stage: 2-2, score: 518'350

                                cabal-518350.png

                                First screenshot to capture the moment when i died and second one for my name.
                                Something which bugs me: I use autofire, as this is allowed here.

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                                • thelostsoulT
                                  thelostsoul
                                  last edited by thelostsoul

                                  Hello, here comes my improvement. Made it to stage 3-2, even when I lost a life very early in game.
                                  Score: 1'001'440 😎

                                  cabal-1001440.png

                                  Now I like the game.

                                  @pjft said in MAME ROW #120 - Cabal:

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                                  Signed: future thelostsoul .

                                  Thank you. ;-)

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                                    VictimRLSH
                                    last edited by

                                    Those are some HARDCORE scores, great job!

                                    System Config: Retropie 4.4 with full desktop, RPi 3B, 256gb SD, 5v 2.1A 5,200 mAH USB battery. EasyMSX controller mounted with Pimoroni Hyperpixel 4 (non touch). Also running 4.6 on a 4gb Pi 4 serving as my primary desktop computer now.

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                                    • obsidianspiderO
                                      obsidianspider
                                      last edited by

                                      MAME ROW #121 is live!

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                                      • GtBFilmsG
                                        GtBFilms @thelostsoul
                                        last edited by

                                        @thelostsoul awesome score!

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                                        • pjftP
                                          pjft
                                          last edited by

                                          Well done @thelostsoul and @GtBFilms .

                                          I never made it past my original score of 440k, here's the picture I finally managed to upload.

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                                          • thelostsoulT
                                            thelostsoul
                                            last edited by

                                            I know this is for fun only, but I wanted say something about AutoFire. Yes, again this topic. My score is not impressive, because AutoFire really makes it easy. The proof comes from a friend of mine, who struggled to beat my score and I recommended him to enable AutoFire. Suddenly he reached almost double my score.

                                            My conclusion: For the sake of fun (thats the reason we do this), at this place I will not play with AutoFire in the future. It gives an big advantage.

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