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    BuZz administrators @barbudreadmon
    last edited by 5 Apr 2019, 22:11

    @barbudreadmon Thanks. Have made the change.

    To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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      johnodon
      last edited by 17 Apr 2019, 21:08

      Look at what I did Mom!

      Missing
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        hermit
        last edited by 18 Apr 2019, 15:12

        has the 0.2.97.44 version been released? thanks

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          GreenHawk84
          last edited by 3 May 2019, 16:58

          Hello,

          Just trying to understand this thread. I just installed Stretch on 3B+ fresh, and that comes with FBAlpha. Is that the "best" core of choice these days or should I be looking for FBAlpha2018? Looking for max compatibility and performance as usual.

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            UDb23 @GreenHawk84
            last edited by 3 May 2019, 17:12

            @GreenHawk84 I'd also check Mame2003plus.
            In any case you need to update from source to get the latest version.

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              GreenHawk84 @UDb23
              last edited by 3 May 2019, 17:43

              @UDb23 That was my next question. So the cores that come with the fresh Retropie 4.4 are not the latest? Aren't my cores updated when I use the Retropie Setup script to "Update all packages"?

              I want to get on the right track for having the latest and greatest versions on my setup.

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                UDb23 @GreenHawk84
                last edited by 3 May 2019, 17:52

                @GreenHawk84 Fresh install+update all packages you'll only get latest final (non beta) versions (same as update from binary afaik).
                Mame2003plus and FBA's latest versions, by updating from source, provide a lot of new features and new games support. Both are being updated quite often.

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                  BuZz administrators @UDb23
                  last edited by 3 May 2019, 21:57

                  @UDb23 the binaries were updated only a few weeks ago.

                  To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                    UDb23 @BuZz
                    last edited by 3 May 2019, 22:59

                    @BuZz Wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

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                      sirhenrythe5th @UDb23
                      last edited by sirhenrythe5th 26 May 2019, 08:20

                      What is about this "Good Bye FinalBurn Alpha - welcome FB Neo" over there at libretro.com?
                      Achievements, much improved sound quality (i.e. Q-Sound now crystal clear), more games supported, faster emulation,...

                      Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

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                        mitu Global Moderator @sirhenrythe5th
                        last edited by 26 May 2019, 13:19

                        @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                        Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

                        It's already on the Pi, as lr-fbalpha. It will be renamed as lr-fbneo shortly, but otherwise the code is just a continuation of the fbalpha project. There are more details in the libretro.com forum post, which outlines the reasons for the name change.

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                          sirhenrythe5th @mitu
                          last edited by 26 May 2019, 14:10

                          @mitu thanks once more mitu!!!

                          So it is the version we are talking here in this thread?
                          Then i allready use it for NeoGeo and some more games that dont work with AdvanceMame.

                          I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

                          But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
                          I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
                          Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

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                            barbudreadmon @sirhenrythe5th
                            last edited by 26 May 2019, 17:35

                            @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                            I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

                            There should be no change to CPS3.

                            @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                            the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst

                            YM2151 is on the todo list, however i can't reproduce your issue, there might be something else causing it.

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              barbudreadmon @sirhenrythe5th
                              last edited by 27 May 2019, 06:21

                              @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                              But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
                              I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
                              Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

                              I asked around and i confirm there was no change in sound quality for raidendx, so there are only a few possibilities :

                              • You were previously using raidendx (or clone) and now you are using r2dx_v33 (or clone), the later is a cheap knock-off of the first with awfully bad sound (they removed 2 sound related boards out of the 3 the game originally had, the samplerate went down to 7742hz), btw both versions are mono.
                              • There is some issue with your setup, it might be a lot of things, maybe your setup dislike this game's refresh rate (which is 55.407801Hz) ?
                              • Your hardware is struggling (maybe the game eats more cpu now), try setting frameskip to 1 and let me know if it solves the cracklings.

                              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                sirhenrythe5th @barbudreadmon
                                last edited by 27 May 2019, 07:11

                                @barbudreadmon thank you very much for your help!

                                I use raidendx.zip, so i guess the parent rom of this game.
                                I hope i dont have any issues with my setup, i really do anything to keep it clean and running (daily updates of OS and, as far as available, retropie-setup/all installed packages) no overclocking, no changing of sensible parameters and so on).

                                In the end i have this this issue only with RaidenDX and once.
                                I will check it again in the evening when i am home again, i had the same sound experience a couple of days ago with a game in AdvanceMame.
                                In this case i solved the problem: i use "auto normalize" in the audio-settings of AdvanceMame (which is a great option imo! ;) ) and in this specific case the volume was set to +18 which had the same crackling sound as result.

                                Now i think maybe i jumped too much between AdvanceMame and FBA so that the audio-mixer got a bit fuzzy.
                                I will check later as mentioned, maybe it was just a kind of loading error concerning the audio drivers.

                                Thx a lot again!!!

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                                  sirhenrythe5th
                                  last edited by sirhenrythe5th 28 May 2019, 06:00

                                  OK, no more issues :D

                                  Yesterday i updated to 4.4.13 and within this update FBAlpha has been upgraded to FBNeo.
                                  Took quite a long time, but was worth it indeed.
                                  No more sound-issues with RaidenDX and i am really impressed about the Performance update.
                                  NeoGeo in special is awesome now!!!

                                  Maybe one thing should be mentioned: after the update you have to copy everything from "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fba" to "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fbneo" to keep all the highscores and BIOS-Setups of NEOGEO.

                                  Thanks a lot, great job!

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                                    BuZz administrators @sirhenrythe5th
                                    last edited by BuZz 28 May 2019, 06:18

                                    @sirhenrythe5th you may have installed it before I had the new binaries built. Should be able to install without building now on RPI.

                                    Regarding folders. yeah, sorry - some changed. Also core options will need to be adjusted if you customised them before as old settings are not renamed.

                                    To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                      sirhenrythe5th @BuZz
                                      last edited by 28 May 2019, 08:20

                                      @BuZz well, in RGUI there was 0.2.97.44. displayed indeed.
                                      But i had no update of FBA in the near past that took so Long (about 40 min.) and what i had as result...no, that is really a difference experience with "FBANeo".
                                      As mentioned i.e. NEOGEO is soooo awesome now!
                                      I did not realize that it did run with a small handbrake before, love to test every single game with this enhanced engine.

                                      Yep, i had to remap my buttons again too, you are right.
                                      The core-overrides wird gone too.

                                      Great update! , much appreciated!!!

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                                        hermit
                                        last edited by 28 May 2019, 16:43

                                        sorry if I insist, but now the core is for version 0.2.97.44 or 0.2.97.43? thank you

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                                          mitu Global Moderator @hermit
                                          last edited by mitu 28 May 2019, 16:44

                                          @hermit The current labeled version is 0.2.97.44.

                                          EDIT: as the first post in the topic mentions, it's still not officially released, still a WIP.

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