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    The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

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    • dankcushionsD
      dankcushions Global Moderator @matchaman
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      @matchaman said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

      Accurate Saturn emulation? That's amazing!
      But with which emulator? The only accurate Saturn emulator I know of is Mednafen and it requires a modern fast desktop CPU...

      yaba-sanshiro is built for ARM phones so it will work. it's accurate enough.

      libretro kronos is also a possibility - a fork of the above. it is not so ARM-centric, though.

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      • sirhenrythe5thS
        sirhenrythe5th
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        very exciting, looking forward to the things that come :)

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        • BriganeB
          Brigane
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          Oh My God, it's like christmas time allover again 😍

          Systems: Raspberry Pi 0/2/3 Model B+
          Os: RetroPie 4.5
          Frontend: Emulationstation & Attract Mode

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          • hooperreH
            hooperre
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            Days like this remind me to thank the mods here lol and everyone involved in the project!

            4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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            • quicksilverQ
              quicksilver
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              Anyone who wants the latest info on the pi 4 can check out this thread on the pi forums. Looks like the engineers are answering questions there as well.

              https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=243372

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                frezeen
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                https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
                benchmarks

                https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1560/1473/files/Inside_Raspberry_Pi_4.pdf?2142
                a sort of FAQ about pi4, nice document

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                  hhromic
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                  According to an RPI engineer, they now doubled the SDcard module speed which I agree was pretty slow in earlier models :)
                  https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1483978&sid=5f3ca0bac2a86c22e8b9e0441f0b58ac#p1483978

                  No. Double.
                  DDR50 is now supported and the controller now supports ADMA.

                  While it is not eMMC, it is still a welcomed improvement!

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                  • quicksilverQ
                    quicksilver @frezeen
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                    @frezeen nice link! The pi 4 looks to be a massive step forward in performance.

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                      Barcrest @frezeen
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                      @frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.

                      His video is here for those that are interested.

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                        hhromic
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                        Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:

                        https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1484079&sid=6a51b0b723d68f240f03c3ffe2c7c0e5#p1484079

                        Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.

                        That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in lr-mupen64plus-next.

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                        • quicksilverQ
                          quicksilver
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                          Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?

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                            frezeen
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                            real boot from usb in future with no tips... pi4 has a onboard eeprom for bootrom, nice one for a system on usb 3.0 ssd

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                              Barcrest @quicksilver
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                              @quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                              Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?

                              My thoughts are go with the 4gb and you will be covered, it isn't much more money. If you go with the 1 or 2gb and then find out there are improvements with the 4gb you have to replace the whole thing.

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                              • sirhenrythe5thS
                                sirhenrythe5th @quicksilver
                                last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                                @quicksilver on the other handside: would 4GB harm in any way?
                                IMO 55$ is not that much.
                                So it is a serious question: could it be a disadvantage to have 4GB as a Retropie-User for any reasons?

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                                • quicksilverQ
                                  quicksilver @sirhenrythe5th
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                                  @sirhenrythe5th extra ram is never harmful. However, an extra 60% in cost for a feature that may not be useful for our purposes is imho a waste.

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                                  • dankcushionsD
                                    dankcushions Global Moderator @hhromic
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                                    @hhromic said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                    Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:

                                    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1484079&sid=6a51b0b723d68f240f03c3ffe2c7c0e5#p1484079

                                    Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.

                                    That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in lr-mupen64plus-next.

                                    hmm in that particular case i don't think will be useful since there's been a perfectly serviceable 32-bit arm dynarec since forever, and n64 isn't CPU limited (that side of things full speed on a pi2).

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                                    • AddisonA
                                      Addison
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                                      Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?

                                      $16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.

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                                        mat
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                                        This is great news, I have been wondering if a Pi 4 would come out and to come online this morning is like christmas.

                                        Now I just have to wait till I can order one since I don't want to overpay.

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                                        • hooperreH
                                          hooperre @Addison
                                          last edited by hooperre

                                          @Addison said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                          Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?

                                          $16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.

                                          They've done it with all the other pi's and iirc they are direct through the Raspberry Pi Foundation, but I think they supply Microcenter and Adafruit and the like first. Amazon seemed like the last to get the 3B+.

                                          4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                                          • lilbudL
                                            lilbud
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                                            I'm definitely going to hold out on this one. Mainly because I moved the majority of my emulation to my desktop PC (to keep things simple, and to limit trips running up and down stairs to my different setups.)

                                            This was a very pleasant and unexpected surprise for today. I would like to see the gaming performance with the 2 & 4gb version, while it is more horsepower, is there really any great performance bump?

                                            Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

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