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overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.

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    SergioPoverony @mitu
    last edited by SergioPoverony 7 May 2019, 07:01 5 Jul 2019, 05:58

    @mitu
    i do as you tell
    #disable_overscan=1
    and overscan_left right and etc work only in boot or retropi-setup... in EmulationStation him not work

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      mitu Global Moderator @SergioPoverony
      last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 06:07

      @SergioPoverony said in overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.:

      in EmulationStation him not work

      Thats should be handled by overscan_scale=1 - do you still have that line in your config.txt file ?

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        SergioPoverony @mitu
        last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 06:16

        @mitu said in overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.:

        Thats should be handled by overscan_scale=1 - do you still have that line in your config.txt file ?

        I make downgrade. Me need update again. After him i check all again.

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          saccublenda @SergioPoverony
          last edited by saccublenda 7 May 2019, 07:23 5 Jul 2019, 06:23

          @SergioPoverony I've noticed the same issue. After upgrading to 4.5 overscan settings apply differently to ES and console (including splashscreen).
          disable_overscan is commented and overscan_scale is set to 1.

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            mitu Global Moderator @saccublenda
            last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 06:26

            @saccublenda I'd love so get more info about your setup - are you also using a LCD screen or just a TV (HDMI) ? Does removing overscan_scale makes a difference ?

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              saccublenda @mitu
              last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 06:38

              @mitu TV with HDMI.
              With overscan_scale=1 ES fits the screen correctly, but console has black borders.
              Without overscan_scale=1 console fits the screen correctly, but ES goes off screen.

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                mitu Global Moderator @saccublenda
                last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 06:47

                @saccublenda said in overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.:

                With overscan_scale=1 ES fits the screen correctly, but console has black borders.

                Can you run fbset to see what's the screen size of the console and compare it to the TV's resolution ?
                You can try adding disable_overscan=1 to remove any overscan borders altogether.

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                  SergioPoverony
                  last edited by SergioPoverony 7 May 2019, 08:27 5 Jul 2019, 07:06

                  @mitu said in overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.:

                  Can you run
                  Cant work

                  Fbset 800*600

                  =====================
                  #disable_overscan=1

                  overscan_left=80
                  overscan_right=42
                  overscan_top=46
                  overscan_bottom=46

                  dtparam=i2c_arm=on
                  dtparam=spi=off

                  dtparam=audio=on
                  gpu_mem_256=128
                  gpu_mem_512=256
                  gpu_mem_1024=256
                  overscan_scale=1
                  dtoverlay=dwc2
                  hdmi_force_hotplug=1
                  hdmi_drive=1
                  hdmi_group=2
                  hdmi_mode=12
                  gpu_mem=128

                  ==============================

                  HDMI connection to scrren

                  Overscan work only console/terminal mode and not work in EmulationStation

                  IMG_20190705_115852_429.jpg IMG_20190705_115814_507.jpg

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                    saccublenda @mitu
                    last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 07:27

                    @mitu said in overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.:

                    Can you run fbset to see what's the screen size of the console and compare it to the TV's resolution ?
                    You can try adding disable_overscan=1 to remove any overscan borders altogether.

                    With disable_overscan=1 I get from fbset

                    mode "1920x1080"
                        geometry 1920 1080 1920 1080 32
                        timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                        rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                    endmode
                    

                    With this configuration the console fits the screen and ES goes off screen.

                    With #disable_overscan=1 and

                    overscan_left=10
                    overscan_right=10
                    overscan_top=10
                    overscan_bottom=10
                    

                    I get from fbset

                    mode "1804x964"
                        geometry 1804 964 1804 964 32
                        timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                        rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                    endmode
                    

                    With this configuration both console and ES have black borders, but the console has significantly larger borders than ES.

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                      SergioPoverony @saccublenda
                      last edited by SergioPoverony 7 May 2019, 13:28 5 Jul 2019, 12:07

                      @saccublenda

                      #disable_overscan=1  
                      overscan_left=10
                      overscan_right=10
                      overscan_top=10
                      overscan_bottom=10
                      
                      mode "800x600"
                      geometry 800 600 800 600 32
                      timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                      rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                      endmode

                      and

                      disable_overscan=1  
                      #overscan_left=10
                      #overscan_right=10
                      #overscan_top=10
                      #overscan_bottom=10
                      
                      
                      mode "800x600"
                      geometry 800 600 800 600 32
                      timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                      rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                      endmode

                      I tell NOT WORK tested Pi3A+ and Zero W

                      Any edit work ONLY TERMINAL/CONSOLE and not work in ES

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                        matchaman
                        last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 15:52

                        I can confirm this, the exact same settings on 4.4 vs 4.5.

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                          mitu Global Moderator @matchaman
                          last edited by mitu 7 May 2019, 18:31 5 Jul 2019, 16:52

                          @matchaman Are you also using a TV through HDMI ? Do you have explicit overscan_left/right/etc. settings in the config file.

                          For the ones using a TV, can you try commenting/removing any overscan settings and leave just

                          disable_overscan=1
                          

                          If this will behave like in @saccublenda's case, the console output would fill the screen, but Emulationstation would be off. Try using the TV settings and put the HDMI connecting into Game mode (or PC mode, I know my TV has a PC label for the HDMI connection which changes the output settings) or set it to stretch the image (fit-to-screen ?).

                          EDIT: I assume you already have overscan_scale=1 in your config (which worked before 4.5).

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                            saccublenda @mitu
                            last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 18:03

                            @mitu said in overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.:

                            EDIT: I assume you already have overscan_scale=1 in your config (which worked before 4.5).

                            I do.

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                              A Former User
                              last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 18:06

                              I have problem with overscan settings too, but only, when i am in the terminal or during boot. In ES everything is fine.

                              I'm using the following settings in rasbian stretch/buster, retropie 4.4 without overscan problems:

                               .***.     Friday,  5 July 2019, 08:44:51 PM
                                   *****     Linux 4.19.50-v7+ armv7l GNU/Linux
                                   `***'
                                    |*|      Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
                                    |*|      /dev/root       6.7G  2.6G  3.8G  40% /
                                  ..|*|..    Uptime.............: 0 days, 00h00m40s
                                .*** * ***.  Memory.............: 630396kB (Free) / 765608kB (Total)
                                *******@@**  Running Processes..: 118
                                `*****@@**'  IP Address.........: 192.168.1.2
                                 `*******'   Temperature........: CPU: 53°C/127°F GPU: 54°C/129°F
                                   `"""'     The RetroPie Project, https://retropie.org.uk
                              
                              pi@retropie:~ $ sudo nano /boot/config.txt
                                GNU nano 2.7.4                File: /boot/config.txt
                              
                              # For more options and information see
                              # http://rpf.io/configtxt
                              # Some settings may impact device functionality. See link above for details
                              
                              # uncomment if you get no picture on HDMI for a default "safe" mode
                              #hdmi_safe=1
                              
                              # uncomment this if your display has a black border of unused pixels visible
                              # and your display can output without overscan
                              #disable_overscan=1
                              
                              # uncomment the following to adjust overscan. Use positive numbers if console
                              # goes off screen, and negative if there is too much border
                              overscan_left=-33
                              overscan_right=-33
                              overscan_top=-18
                              overscan_bottom=-18
                              
                              # uncomment to force a console size. By default it will be display's size minus
                              

                              results from fbset:

                              mode "1250x660"
                                  geometry 1250 660 1250 660 32
                                  timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                  rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                              endmode
                              
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                                saccublenda @A Former User
                                last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 18:10

                                @alphag Same here. Either I can make ES fit the screen or console/splashscreen, but not both. I was able to have both fit the screen on 4.4.

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                                  matchaman
                                  last edited by 5 Jul 2019, 19:07

                                  @mitu yes, I'm experiencing the exact same issue with @saccublenda. I understand what's going on but I assume it should be fixed, it shouldn't be like that...

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                                    saccublenda
                                    last edited by saccublenda 7 Jun 2019, 10:21 6 Jul 2019, 07:33

                                    As a check I downgraded the kernel as explained here and now the overscan settings apply both to ES and console, so they can now both fit the screen.
                                    I think it is then a problem with the new kernel.

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                                      saccublenda
                                      last edited by saccublenda 7 Jun 2019, 09:24 6 Jul 2019, 08:15

                                      Maybe everyone already knows that, but I've found out that disable_overscan=1 does not actually disable overscan (so ignoring the overscan settings), but instead disables some "default" overscan settings. In fact, with

                                      #disable_overscan=1
                                      #overscan_left=0
                                      #overscan_right=0
                                      #overscan_top=0
                                      #overscan_bottom=0

                                      I get from fbset

                                      mode "1824x984"
                                          geometry 1824 984 1824 984 32
                                          timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                          rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                                      endmode
                                      

                                      meaning that without disable_overscan=1 I get a "default" border of 48 on top, bottom, left and right (my display size is 1920x1080). Any additional overscan border explicitly set in /boot/config.txt would add to this default values, in fact with

                                      #disable_overscan=1
                                      overscan_left=10
                                      overscan_right=10
                                      overscan_top=10
                                      overscan_bottom=10
                                      

                                      I get

                                      mode "1804x964"
                                          geometry 1804 964 1804 964 32
                                          timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                          rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                                      endmode
                                      

                                      Instead with

                                      disable_overscan=1
                                      overscan_left=10
                                      overscan_right=10
                                      overscan_top=10
                                      overscan_bottom=10
                                      

                                      I get

                                      mode "1900x1060"
                                          geometry 1900 1060 1900 1060 32
                                          timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                          rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
                                      endmode
                                      
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                                        SergioPoverony
                                        last edited by 6 Jul 2019, 08:17

                                        @mitu need add this in isssue on github

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                                          matchaman @saccublenda
                                          last edited by 6 Jul 2019, 09:17

                                          @saccublenda said in overscan_ NOT WORK AFTER UPDATE! 4.5 in EmulationStation.:

                                          As a check I downgraded the kernel as explained here and now the overscan settings apply both to ES and console, so they can now both fit the screen.
                                          I thin it is then a problem with the new kernel.

                                          Same here. I'll wait for a while till I upgrade again.

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