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    • WeirdHW
      WeirdH @WeirdH
      last edited by WeirdH

      @WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

      EDIT - I just noticed something: am I correct in stating that Mega Play titles don't save high scores?

      So far, I've seen this on mp_sonic and mp_sor2, which both came from a reference set. All other games save scores perfectly fine.

      Any insight on this? TIA

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      • arcadez2003A
        arcadez2003 @WeirdH
        last edited by arcadez2003

        @WeirdH The simple answer is i dunno not having played any of the Sega Megaplay games in my local arcade back in the day, nor is there any mention
        of adding save state support to the driver in the MAME WIP as far as i can tell from a quick glance.

        Arcade Addict

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        • REK607R
          REK607
          last edited by

          Hello! I just tried to play my Smash TV V.8.0. Everything works fine... but the controls! I've been changing this and that on retroarch with no success. How should I have it done? I can move the character, but no shooting at all, I would like to have my right analog stick.

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            grant2258 Banned
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            https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-hundreds-of-new-games-improved-input-features-new-bugs-now-with-runahead-support/1026

            The problem is you using retroarch to set controls rather the the mame tab menu. I would suggest you use digital mode and forget you have analog sticks if you want to use retroarch for remapping until someone fixes the code. The mame tab menu works fine the information is in the above link. Personally if it was up to me which it isint. I would leave mame to do the work because RA isint capable of mapping all of mames options. I would disable the RA remapping until its stable.

            There would be a little work involved not much to remap analog controls but someone in RA end would need to do that.

            I dont mind fixing bugs in mame tab menu controls or drivers ect.

            Frontend/backend (retroarch remapping) limitations are strictly libretro team issues and the biggest reason its not capable of mapping mame properly at the moment is a player is restricted to one controller with libretro. Mame tab menu does not have this limitation until a way is found round this I dont see RA mapping working with mame properly.

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            • RiverstormR
              Riverstorm
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              @REK607 - You could try the following settings for testing. If you have have a lot of custom ROM control configs they may get messed up flipping between digital and analog so I would recommend backing them up along with the default.cfg before testing or have a backup image.

              If you don't have a lot of custom configs then I would just punt and test it out! :)

              Pull RA menu and go to Quick Menu -> Options and change the following options.

              Input Interface = Simultaneous
              Legacy Remapping = Enabled
              Control Mapping = Analog
              
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                grant2258 Banned @Riverstorm
                last edited by grant2258

                @Riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                @REK607 - You could try the following settings for testing. If you have have a lot of custom ROM control configs they may get messed up flipping between digital and analog so I would recommend backing them up along with the default.cfg before testing or have a backup image.

                If you don't have a lot of custom configs then I would just punt and test it out! :)

                Pull RA menu and go to Quick Menu -> Options and change the following options.

                Input Interface = Simultaneous
                Legacy Remapping = Enabled
                Control Mapping = Analog
                

                above is good advice but you will need to set your controls in the mame menu.

                You wont need to back up the default config anymore it uses two separate ones (Legacy Remapping) now so they dont break each other.

                If you have been using 2003-plus before this update was done you will need to clear the cfg file directory. Just keep in mind when using this mode the netplay and RA remapping isint supported for this this mode(analog controls ) until someone at libretro can do it properly. You will be limited to dpad and buttons digital mode if you want these features to work properly.

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                  grant2258 Banned
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                  for anyone interested in taking this on the description code is here.
                  https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/blob/382cb6fe4af15a9b2259fc4687bde8a69f1234f5/src/mame2003/mame2003.c#L1532-L1710

                  Thing to note here is this is generic assuming mame is using the global defaults. Drivers dont always do this but you could just add the analog descriptors when analog is chosen and it should patch it up for now.

                  The proper solution is to get the input from the machine and map it to RA descriptors. If its across multiple devices like a dual arcade panel joystick there is no way for Ra to handle it but most games are on one device.

                  It can be improved upon no doubt. For me mame tab menu works in an easy to configure way and it works. RA isint capable of providing whats needed fully at the moment might change in time... so if someones up to the task on making it better go for it! else use legacy with controller type as analog and use the tab menu.

                  This is how stand alone works digital mode is just a simple way for people with digital only controllers to set input general settings to digital only controls without setting them all themselves. The only difference between analog and digital is what input general defaults are set too hope this clears and confusion up.

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                  • RiverstormR
                    Riverstorm
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                    @grant2258 - Thanks, yeah that does help. I usually get a lot from your explanations. I always wondered why RA doesn't have "input descriptors" in the MAME TAB menu for movement similar to the button inputs like RP A, B, C, etc.

                    I have my RA and RAW inputs aligned right now but I also have a setup where I stripped out all the RAW and used RA inputs only in the TAB menu (simultaneous plus legacy) which works pretty well.

                    I can do <NOT> mappings and few things I didn't know I could do before without "ghosting" issues. I had one situation where I used the ES A+B button swap that really threw things off and had me scratching my head when the inputs weren't aligned.

                    Not knowing a lot about @REK607's setup I was hoping he would at least give the settings above a try as with very little setup several dual stick games work well in analog like Smash T.V., Total Carnage, Robotron, Crazy Climber, etc.

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                      grant2258 Banned
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                      to be honest I made my own barcade build with a few changes to make life easier for me. I changed sf2 driver to map to jamma standards and the 123 buttons are on the bottom row and sf2 works properly. There is no none legacy mode and the old warning screens are back with info telling you if there is a working game if you one your using isnt working and you cant set the RA controls they are disabled in the code not removed. All in all i can say im happy with it this way if i had to use my pi. I cant really see that happening though too used to the mini pc i have in it running big box

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                      • BriganeB
                        Brigane @Brigane
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                        @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        @arcadez2003

                        Thanks for the updates, I really appreciate the work you put into this. Could you by any chance take a look at Wyvern Wings. The game plays fine, but I have no sound. Thanks :)

                        Anything new about this issue?
                        Also can anybody confirm that this is a common issue and not just my setup?

                        Systems: Raspberry Pi 0/2/3 Model B+
                        Os: RetroPie 4.5
                        Frontend: Emulationstation & Attract Mode

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                          grant2258 Banned @Brigane
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                          @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          @arcadez2003

                          Thanks for the updates, I really appreciate the work you put into this. Could you by any chance take a look at Wyvern Wings. The game plays fine, but I have no sound. Thanks :)

                          Anything new about this issue?
                          Also can anybody confirm that this is a common issue and not just my setup?

                          I cant see this game in and drivers for mame2003-plus was added in mame0.112 originally.

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                          • arcadez2003A
                            arcadez2003 @grant2258
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                            @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                            @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                            @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                            @arcadez2003

                            Thanks for the updates, I really appreciate the work you put into this. Could you by any chance take a look at Wyvern Wings. The game plays fine, but I have no sound. Thanks :)

                            Anything new about this issue?
                            Also can anybody confirm that this is a common issue and not just my setup?

                            I cant see this game in and drivers for mame2003-plus was added in mame0.112 originally.

                            Yip he must be using another core as none of the games requiring the Hyperstone CPU Wyvern Wings being one of them are supported in MAME2003

                            Arcade Addict

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                            • BriganeB
                              Brigane @arcadez2003
                              last edited by

                              @arcadez2003 Does this mean it can't be fixed?

                              Systems: Raspberry Pi 0/2/3 Model B+
                              Os: RetroPie 4.5
                              Frontend: Emulationstation & Attract Mode

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                              • arcadez2003A
                                arcadez2003 @Brigane
                                last edited by arcadez2003

                                @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                                @arcadez2003 Does this mean it can't be fixed?

                                Well there are two stumbling blocks...........

                                0.146u2: Added preliminary QS1000 sound emulation [Phil Bennett]. Changed I8052 CPU2 clock speed to 24MHz. Added QS1000 sound and left/right Speaker. Changed region audiocpu to qs1000:cpu and sfx/wavetable to qs1000.
                                0.112u2: Pierpaolo Prazzoli added I8052 (6MHz) CPU2 and missing gfx1/sound1 roms. Changed visible area to 240x320 (vertical). Added 8-way Joystick - Game now playable.

                                We are missing both the I8052 CPU and the QS1000 sound core both of which cannot due to incompatable code be backported to this ole core.

                                PS if want sound in Wyvern Wings any MAME version after 146.u1 is the build you require.

                                Arcade Addict

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                                • arcadez2003A
                                  arcadez2003
                                  last edited by arcadez2003

                                  Actually this core does support some hyperstone games although none of them are actually playable................

                                  GAMEX( 19??, vamphalf, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Danbi", "Vamp 1-2", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                  GAMEX( 19??, hidnctch, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Eolith", "Hidden Catch", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                  GAMEX( 19??, landbrk, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Eolith", "Land Breaker", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                  GAMEX( 19??, racoon, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Eolith", "Racoon World", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                  GAMEX( 19??, xfiles, 0, xfiles, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "dfPIX Entertainment Inc.", "X-Files", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )

                                  I could i think get Vamp Half to work here performance will likely be an issue on most platforms that use this
                                  core though as it ran like a dog on the xbox so i never bothered trying to add it, decent game though........

                                  vamphalf.png

                                  Arcade Addict

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                                  • m2306M
                                    m2306
                                    last edited by m2306

                                    I'm looking for a current list of rom filenames added to 2003Plus since branching from the .78 set. I'm trying to build a 1Game1Rom set of working only roms for MAME2003Plus, or as close as I can get to that. I have generated a datfile inside the MAME menu in the latest version of MAEM2003-Plus and then built a full non merged romset with separate bios. I've gotten as far as trying to filter with Simple Arcade Multifilter without luck and now trying Arcade Manager which seems it could do it but only has CSV files for MAME2003. Now I'm looking for a current MAME2003-Plus no clone CSV file or at least a current list of rom filenames added to 2003Plus since branching from the .78 set so I could add the Plus games. Could anyone help with a CSV or link to a list of filenames? Tips on any any other way of doing this is also welcome. Thanks!

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                                    • RiverstormR
                                      Riverstorm
                                      last edited by Riverstorm

                                      @m2306 - Here's a list of the ROM files that are exclusive to m3plus. I might be missing 1 or 2 from the very latest builds that I will verify in the next few days.

                                      Also you could cross reference the list. Here's a link that shows all the changes from added games, clones, hacks, fixed games, added sound, improved sound, etc. by full name on Github.

                                      I don't think you're going to be able to build a "1G1R" set without the region information being added to the DAT. Language vs. region aren't mutually exclusive.

                                      If there's a guy that would know it's @grant2258. I don't know if the region information from a game is stored in the drivers somewhere where it could be added to the DAT.

                                      Also @grant2258 I would be curious do you know is it possible to add sourcefile information to the DAT. I think from 0.85 or newer they have like <game name="nam1975" sourcefile="neogeo.c" romof="neogeo"> which would allow another option in filtering a subset of ROMs using the DAT file and pulling neogeo games, etc.

                                      @m2306 - From the other thread I did a small proof of concept using the parent ROM to pull it and all clones from a DAT. Like Neo-Geo only, CPS only, etc. ROM sets that does seem to work.

                                      New ROMs exclusive to m3plus:

                                      1943mii.zip
                                      1945kiii.zip
                                      airattck.zip
                                      airattcka.zip
                                      alibabab.zip
                                      alienar.zip
                                      alienaru.zip
                                      arescue.zip
                                      asurabus.zip
                                      avengrgsj.zip
                                      backfire.zip
                                      baryon.zip
                                      bbbuster.zip
                                      bcstrya.zip
                                      boogwing.zip
                                      boogwinga.zip
                                      botanic.zip
                                      brapboysj.zip
                                      bsharkjjs.zip
                                      bublbob1.zip
                                      bublboblp.zip
                                      bublboblu.zip
                                      bublcave.zip
                                      cabala.zip
                                      cabalus.zip
                                      cabalus2.zip
                                      candance.zip
                                      ccastlej.zip
                                      chainrec.zip
                                      charlien.zip
                                      chokchok.zip
                                      cookbib.zip
                                      countrb2.zip
                                      crswd2bl.zip
                                      cutefght.zip
                                      darkmist.zip
                                      dblewing.zip
                                      ddp3.zip
                                      ddp3a.zip
                                      ddp3b.zip
                                      ddp3blk.zip
                                      ddragon3j.zip
                                      ddream95.zip
                                      deerhunt.zip
                                      deerhunta.zip
                                      deerhuntb.zip
                                      deluxe5.zip
                                      denjinmk.zip
                                      dietgo.zip
                                      dietgoe.zip
                                      dietgoj.zip
                                      dietgou.zip
                                      dkongpe.zip
                                      dkongx.zip
                                      dkrdemo.zip
                                      dogosokj.zip
                                      dokidoki.zip
                                      downtowj.zip
                                      dreamwld.zip
                                      drgnwrld.zip
                                      dynagear.zip
                                      esckidsj.zip
                                      espgal.zip
                                      fghthista.zip
                                      fghthistj.zip
                                      fghthistu.zip
                                      fixeighb.zip
                                      flagrall.zip
                                      gaialast.zip
                                      galagamf.zip
                                      galagamk.zip
                                      galagao.zip
                                      galpandx.zip
                                      gangonta.zip
                                      gdfs.zip
                                      ghostlop.zip
                                      glasskr.zip
                                      gnbarich.zip
                                      gt2k.zip
                                      gt3d.zip
                                      gt97.zip
                                      gt98.zip
                                      gt99.zip
                                      gtclassc.zip
                                      gunmast.zip
                                      guwanges.zip
                                      hachamfb.zip
                                      hangzo.zip
                                      hcrash.zip
                                      hcrashc.zip
                                      hedpanicf.zip
                                      hedpanico.zip
                                      hookj.zip
                                      hoops96.zip
                                      hsf2a.zip
                                      hvysmsh.zip
                                      hvysmsha.zip
                                      hvysmshj.zip
                                      ikari3nr.zip
                                      inyourfa.zip
                                      ironclad.zip
                                      joemacr.zip
                                      joemacra.zip
                                      kbash2.zip
                                      ket.zip
                                      keta.zip
                                      ketb.zip
                                      killbld.zip
                                      kof10th.zip
                                      kof2001.zip
                                      kof2002.zip
                                      kof2003d.zip
                                      lasthope.zip
                                      leds2011.zip
                                      lethalen.zip
                                      madalien.zip
                                      magdrop.zip
                                      magdropp.zip
                                      matchit2.zip
                                      matrim.zip
                                      mchampdx.zip
                                      mchampdxa.zip
                                      midresbj.zip
                                      mp_bio.zip
                                      mp_col3.zip
                                      mp_shnb3.zip
                                      mp_soni2.zip
                                      mp_sor2.zip
                                      mp_twc.zip
                                      msgogo.zip
                                      mslug4.zip
                                      mslug5.zip
                                      multchmpk.zip
                                      mwarr.zip
                                      nslasherj.zip
                                      nslashers.zip
                                      olds.zip
                                      olds103t.zip
                                      osman.zip
                                      packbang.zip
                                      pktgaldj.zip
                                      pktgaldx.zip
                                      plegends.zip
                                      pnyaa.zip
                                      progear.zip
                                      progearj.zip
                                      prtytime.zip
                                      pturn.zip
                                      puzlstar.zip
                                      pzloop2j.zip
                                      ragtime.zip
                                      ragtimea.zip
                                      riot.zip
                                      rockn2.zip
                                      rockn3.zip
                                      rockn4.zip
                                      rockna.zip
                                      rolcrush.zip
                                      rotd.zip
                                      sabotnba.zip
                                      samsh5sp.zip
                                      samsho5.zip
                                      sbishi.zip
                                      sbishik.zip
                                      sdfight.zip
                                      sengoku3.zip
                                      shdancrb.zip
                                      skullfng.zip
                                      skullfngj.zip
                                      sonicbom.zip
                                      squash.zip
                                      ssonicbr.zip
                                      suprridr.zip
                                      suprtrio.zip
                                      svcboot.zip
                                      swatpolc.zip
                                      tangtang.zip
                                      teetert.zip
                                      tgm2.zip
                                      tgm2p.zip
                                      theroes.zip
                                      thoop.zip
                                      tronfp.zip
                                      trophyh.zip
                                      turkhunt.zip
                                      uccopsar.zip
                                      vasara2.zip
                                      vasara2a.zip
                                      vbowl.zip
                                      vbowlj.zip
                                      vf.zip
                                      vmetal.zip
                                      wbmlvc.zip
                                      wcvol95.zip
                                      wcvol95x.zip
                                      wingforc.zip
                                      wofch.zip
                                      wschamp.zip
                                      wschampa.zip
                                      xeviousc.zip
                                      zintrckb.zip
                                      zupapa.zip
                                      

                                      New Samples:

                                      cosmica.zip
                                      fantasy.zip
                                      frogs.zip
                                      ghox.zip
                                      sasuke.zip
                                      spacefb.zip
                                      tekipaki.zip
                                      
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                                      • m2306M
                                        m2306 @Riverstorm
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                                        @Riverstorm Thank you. So, if I now use Arcade Manager and the CSV for MAME2003 0.78 romset to filter out clones and then add back the games in the list you provided (if removed by AM) I will end up with a Plus romset without clones? What do you think about the removing of non working games with the ArcadeManager CSV for 0.78, will I remove games that are not in the list you provided, that aren't new but made working in Plus?

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                                        • RiverstormR
                                          Riverstorm
                                          last edited by

                                          @m2306 - That's a good point. The new games will obviously not be in the list but non-working to working games I'm not sure if they are in the list. I've not spent any time using AM or looked at the CSV file to know what's in the list vs the m3plus DAT.

                                          If you're just looking to remove the clones from the m3plus DAT I can do that real quick without much issue.

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                                            grant2258 Banned
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                                            yea source files can be added isint too hard to do if someone wants to do it it would be up to arcadez or whoever is helping out with the libretto port. I really dont have anything to do with the project anymore unless its patches for games to work better on lower spec hardware. Ive done a fix for bionic commando need to test it out though and make sure its all good.

                                            As for 1 game 1 rom its not that simple as using regions only you need to pick a rom that works sometimes thats the parent other times its the roms. I dont know any automate solution other than listing every parent and every clone then find pick the first one with a working status or the best working status.

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