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    • arcadez2003A
      arcadez2003 @WeirdH
      last edited by arcadez2003

      @WeirdH The simple answer is i dunno not having played any of the Sega Megaplay games in my local arcade back in the day, nor is there any mention
      of adding save state support to the driver in the MAME WIP as far as i can tell from a quick glance.

      Arcade Addict

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      • REK607R
        REK607
        last edited by

        Hello! I just tried to play my Smash TV V.8.0. Everything works fine... but the controls! I've been changing this and that on retroarch with no success. How should I have it done? I can move the character, but no shooting at all, I would like to have my right analog stick.

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          grant2258 Banned
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          https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-hundreds-of-new-games-improved-input-features-new-bugs-now-with-runahead-support/1026

          The problem is you using retroarch to set controls rather the the mame tab menu. I would suggest you use digital mode and forget you have analog sticks if you want to use retroarch for remapping until someone fixes the code. The mame tab menu works fine the information is in the above link. Personally if it was up to me which it isint. I would leave mame to do the work because RA isint capable of mapping all of mames options. I would disable the RA remapping until its stable.

          There would be a little work involved not much to remap analog controls but someone in RA end would need to do that.

          I dont mind fixing bugs in mame tab menu controls or drivers ect.

          Frontend/backend (retroarch remapping) limitations are strictly libretro team issues and the biggest reason its not capable of mapping mame properly at the moment is a player is restricted to one controller with libretro. Mame tab menu does not have this limitation until a way is found round this I dont see RA mapping working with mame properly.

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          • RiverstormR
            Riverstorm
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            @REK607 - You could try the following settings for testing. If you have have a lot of custom ROM control configs they may get messed up flipping between digital and analog so I would recommend backing them up along with the default.cfg before testing or have a backup image.

            If you don't have a lot of custom configs then I would just punt and test it out! :)

            Pull RA menu and go to Quick Menu -> Options and change the following options.

            Input Interface = Simultaneous
            Legacy Remapping = Enabled
            Control Mapping = Analog
            
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              grant2258 Banned @Riverstorm
              last edited by grant2258

              @Riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

              @REK607 - You could try the following settings for testing. If you have have a lot of custom ROM control configs they may get messed up flipping between digital and analog so I would recommend backing them up along with the default.cfg before testing or have a backup image.

              If you don't have a lot of custom configs then I would just punt and test it out! :)

              Pull RA menu and go to Quick Menu -> Options and change the following options.

              Input Interface = Simultaneous
              Legacy Remapping = Enabled
              Control Mapping = Analog
              

              above is good advice but you will need to set your controls in the mame menu.

              You wont need to back up the default config anymore it uses two separate ones (Legacy Remapping) now so they dont break each other.

              If you have been using 2003-plus before this update was done you will need to clear the cfg file directory. Just keep in mind when using this mode the netplay and RA remapping isint supported for this this mode(analog controls ) until someone at libretro can do it properly. You will be limited to dpad and buttons digital mode if you want these features to work properly.

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                grant2258 Banned
                last edited by grant2258

                for anyone interested in taking this on the description code is here.
                https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/blob/382cb6fe4af15a9b2259fc4687bde8a69f1234f5/src/mame2003/mame2003.c#L1532-L1710

                Thing to note here is this is generic assuming mame is using the global defaults. Drivers dont always do this but you could just add the analog descriptors when analog is chosen and it should patch it up for now.

                The proper solution is to get the input from the machine and map it to RA descriptors. If its across multiple devices like a dual arcade panel joystick there is no way for Ra to handle it but most games are on one device.

                It can be improved upon no doubt. For me mame tab menu works in an easy to configure way and it works. RA isint capable of providing whats needed fully at the moment might change in time... so if someones up to the task on making it better go for it! else use legacy with controller type as analog and use the tab menu.

                This is how stand alone works digital mode is just a simple way for people with digital only controllers to set input general settings to digital only controls without setting them all themselves. The only difference between analog and digital is what input general defaults are set too hope this clears and confusion up.

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                • RiverstormR
                  Riverstorm
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                  @grant2258 - Thanks, yeah that does help. I usually get a lot from your explanations. I always wondered why RA doesn't have "input descriptors" in the MAME TAB menu for movement similar to the button inputs like RP A, B, C, etc.

                  I have my RA and RAW inputs aligned right now but I also have a setup where I stripped out all the RAW and used RA inputs only in the TAB menu (simultaneous plus legacy) which works pretty well.

                  I can do <NOT> mappings and few things I didn't know I could do before without "ghosting" issues. I had one situation where I used the ES A+B button swap that really threw things off and had me scratching my head when the inputs weren't aligned.

                  Not knowing a lot about @REK607's setup I was hoping he would at least give the settings above a try as with very little setup several dual stick games work well in analog like Smash T.V., Total Carnage, Robotron, Crazy Climber, etc.

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                    grant2258 Banned
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                    to be honest I made my own barcade build with a few changes to make life easier for me. I changed sf2 driver to map to jamma standards and the 123 buttons are on the bottom row and sf2 works properly. There is no none legacy mode and the old warning screens are back with info telling you if there is a working game if you one your using isnt working and you cant set the RA controls they are disabled in the code not removed. All in all i can say im happy with it this way if i had to use my pi. I cant really see that happening though too used to the mini pc i have in it running big box

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                    • BriganeB
                      Brigane @Brigane
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                      @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                      @arcadez2003

                      Thanks for the updates, I really appreciate the work you put into this. Could you by any chance take a look at Wyvern Wings. The game plays fine, but I have no sound. Thanks :)

                      Anything new about this issue?
                      Also can anybody confirm that this is a common issue and not just my setup?

                      Systems: Raspberry Pi 0/2/3 Model B+
                      Os: RetroPie 4.5
                      Frontend: Emulationstation & Attract Mode

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                        grant2258 Banned @Brigane
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                        @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        @arcadez2003

                        Thanks for the updates, I really appreciate the work you put into this. Could you by any chance take a look at Wyvern Wings. The game plays fine, but I have no sound. Thanks :)

                        Anything new about this issue?
                        Also can anybody confirm that this is a common issue and not just my setup?

                        I cant see this game in and drivers for mame2003-plus was added in mame0.112 originally.

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                        • arcadez2003A
                          arcadez2003 @grant2258
                          last edited by

                          @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          @arcadez2003

                          Thanks for the updates, I really appreciate the work you put into this. Could you by any chance take a look at Wyvern Wings. The game plays fine, but I have no sound. Thanks :)

                          Anything new about this issue?
                          Also can anybody confirm that this is a common issue and not just my setup?

                          I cant see this game in and drivers for mame2003-plus was added in mame0.112 originally.

                          Yip he must be using another core as none of the games requiring the Hyperstone CPU Wyvern Wings being one of them are supported in MAME2003

                          Arcade Addict

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                          • BriganeB
                            Brigane @arcadez2003
                            last edited by

                            @arcadez2003 Does this mean it can't be fixed?

                            Systems: Raspberry Pi 0/2/3 Model B+
                            Os: RetroPie 4.5
                            Frontend: Emulationstation & Attract Mode

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                            • arcadez2003A
                              arcadez2003 @Brigane
                              last edited by arcadez2003

                              @Brigane said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                              @arcadez2003 Does this mean it can't be fixed?

                              Well there are two stumbling blocks...........

                              0.146u2: Added preliminary QS1000 sound emulation [Phil Bennett]. Changed I8052 CPU2 clock speed to 24MHz. Added QS1000 sound and left/right Speaker. Changed region audiocpu to qs1000:cpu and sfx/wavetable to qs1000.
                              0.112u2: Pierpaolo Prazzoli added I8052 (6MHz) CPU2 and missing gfx1/sound1 roms. Changed visible area to 240x320 (vertical). Added 8-way Joystick - Game now playable.

                              We are missing both the I8052 CPU and the QS1000 sound core both of which cannot due to incompatable code be backported to this ole core.

                              PS if want sound in Wyvern Wings any MAME version after 146.u1 is the build you require.

                              Arcade Addict

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                              • arcadez2003A
                                arcadez2003
                                last edited by arcadez2003

                                Actually this core does support some hyperstone games although none of them are actually playable................

                                GAMEX( 19??, vamphalf, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Danbi", "Vamp 1-2", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                GAMEX( 19??, hidnctch, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Eolith", "Hidden Catch", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                GAMEX( 19??, landbrk, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Eolith", "Land Breaker", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                GAMEX( 19??, racoon, 0, vamphalf, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "Eolith", "Racoon World", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )
                                GAMEX( 19??, xfiles, 0, xfiles, vamphalf, vamphalf, ROT0, "dfPIX Entertainment Inc.", "X-Files", GAME_NO_SOUND | GAME_NOT_WORKING )

                                I could i think get Vamp Half to work here performance will likely be an issue on most platforms that use this
                                core though as it ran like a dog on the xbox so i never bothered trying to add it, decent game though........

                                vamphalf.png

                                Arcade Addict

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                                • m2306M
                                  m2306
                                  last edited by m2306

                                  I'm looking for a current list of rom filenames added to 2003Plus since branching from the .78 set. I'm trying to build a 1Game1Rom set of working only roms for MAME2003Plus, or as close as I can get to that. I have generated a datfile inside the MAME menu in the latest version of MAEM2003-Plus and then built a full non merged romset with separate bios. I've gotten as far as trying to filter with Simple Arcade Multifilter without luck and now trying Arcade Manager which seems it could do it but only has CSV files for MAME2003. Now I'm looking for a current MAME2003-Plus no clone CSV file or at least a current list of rom filenames added to 2003Plus since branching from the .78 set so I could add the Plus games. Could anyone help with a CSV or link to a list of filenames? Tips on any any other way of doing this is also welcome. Thanks!

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                                  • RiverstormR
                                    Riverstorm
                                    last edited by Riverstorm

                                    @m2306 - Here's a list of the ROM files that are exclusive to m3plus. I might be missing 1 or 2 from the very latest builds that I will verify in the next few days.

                                    Also you could cross reference the list. Here's a link that shows all the changes from added games, clones, hacks, fixed games, added sound, improved sound, etc. by full name on Github.

                                    I don't think you're going to be able to build a "1G1R" set without the region information being added to the DAT. Language vs. region aren't mutually exclusive.

                                    If there's a guy that would know it's @grant2258. I don't know if the region information from a game is stored in the drivers somewhere where it could be added to the DAT.

                                    Also @grant2258 I would be curious do you know is it possible to add sourcefile information to the DAT. I think from 0.85 or newer they have like <game name="nam1975" sourcefile="neogeo.c" romof="neogeo"> which would allow another option in filtering a subset of ROMs using the DAT file and pulling neogeo games, etc.

                                    @m2306 - From the other thread I did a small proof of concept using the parent ROM to pull it and all clones from a DAT. Like Neo-Geo only, CPS only, etc. ROM sets that does seem to work.

                                    New ROMs exclusive to m3plus:

                                    1943mii.zip
                                    1945kiii.zip
                                    airattck.zip
                                    airattcka.zip
                                    alibabab.zip
                                    alienar.zip
                                    alienaru.zip
                                    arescue.zip
                                    asurabus.zip
                                    avengrgsj.zip
                                    backfire.zip
                                    baryon.zip
                                    bbbuster.zip
                                    bcstrya.zip
                                    boogwing.zip
                                    boogwinga.zip
                                    botanic.zip
                                    brapboysj.zip
                                    bsharkjjs.zip
                                    bublbob1.zip
                                    bublboblp.zip
                                    bublboblu.zip
                                    bublcave.zip
                                    cabala.zip
                                    cabalus.zip
                                    cabalus2.zip
                                    candance.zip
                                    ccastlej.zip
                                    chainrec.zip
                                    charlien.zip
                                    chokchok.zip
                                    cookbib.zip
                                    countrb2.zip
                                    crswd2bl.zip
                                    cutefght.zip
                                    darkmist.zip
                                    dblewing.zip
                                    ddp3.zip
                                    ddp3a.zip
                                    ddp3b.zip
                                    ddp3blk.zip
                                    ddragon3j.zip
                                    ddream95.zip
                                    deerhunt.zip
                                    deerhunta.zip
                                    deerhuntb.zip
                                    deluxe5.zip
                                    denjinmk.zip
                                    dietgo.zip
                                    dietgoe.zip
                                    dietgoj.zip
                                    dietgou.zip
                                    dkongpe.zip
                                    dkongx.zip
                                    dkrdemo.zip
                                    dogosokj.zip
                                    dokidoki.zip
                                    downtowj.zip
                                    dreamwld.zip
                                    drgnwrld.zip
                                    dynagear.zip
                                    esckidsj.zip
                                    espgal.zip
                                    fghthista.zip
                                    fghthistj.zip
                                    fghthistu.zip
                                    fixeighb.zip
                                    flagrall.zip
                                    gaialast.zip
                                    galagamf.zip
                                    galagamk.zip
                                    galagao.zip
                                    galpandx.zip
                                    gangonta.zip
                                    gdfs.zip
                                    ghostlop.zip
                                    glasskr.zip
                                    gnbarich.zip
                                    gt2k.zip
                                    gt3d.zip
                                    gt97.zip
                                    gt98.zip
                                    gt99.zip
                                    gtclassc.zip
                                    gunmast.zip
                                    guwanges.zip
                                    hachamfb.zip
                                    hangzo.zip
                                    hcrash.zip
                                    hcrashc.zip
                                    hedpanicf.zip
                                    hedpanico.zip
                                    hookj.zip
                                    hoops96.zip
                                    hsf2a.zip
                                    hvysmsh.zip
                                    hvysmsha.zip
                                    hvysmshj.zip
                                    ikari3nr.zip
                                    inyourfa.zip
                                    ironclad.zip
                                    joemacr.zip
                                    joemacra.zip
                                    kbash2.zip
                                    ket.zip
                                    keta.zip
                                    ketb.zip
                                    killbld.zip
                                    kof10th.zip
                                    kof2001.zip
                                    kof2002.zip
                                    kof2003d.zip
                                    lasthope.zip
                                    leds2011.zip
                                    lethalen.zip
                                    madalien.zip
                                    magdrop.zip
                                    magdropp.zip
                                    matchit2.zip
                                    matrim.zip
                                    mchampdx.zip
                                    mchampdxa.zip
                                    midresbj.zip
                                    mp_bio.zip
                                    mp_col3.zip
                                    mp_shnb3.zip
                                    mp_soni2.zip
                                    mp_sor2.zip
                                    mp_twc.zip
                                    msgogo.zip
                                    mslug4.zip
                                    mslug5.zip
                                    multchmpk.zip
                                    mwarr.zip
                                    nslasherj.zip
                                    nslashers.zip
                                    olds.zip
                                    olds103t.zip
                                    osman.zip
                                    packbang.zip
                                    pktgaldj.zip
                                    pktgaldx.zip
                                    plegends.zip
                                    pnyaa.zip
                                    progear.zip
                                    progearj.zip
                                    prtytime.zip
                                    pturn.zip
                                    puzlstar.zip
                                    pzloop2j.zip
                                    ragtime.zip
                                    ragtimea.zip
                                    riot.zip
                                    rockn2.zip
                                    rockn3.zip
                                    rockn4.zip
                                    rockna.zip
                                    rolcrush.zip
                                    rotd.zip
                                    sabotnba.zip
                                    samsh5sp.zip
                                    samsho5.zip
                                    sbishi.zip
                                    sbishik.zip
                                    sdfight.zip
                                    sengoku3.zip
                                    shdancrb.zip
                                    skullfng.zip
                                    skullfngj.zip
                                    sonicbom.zip
                                    squash.zip
                                    ssonicbr.zip
                                    suprridr.zip
                                    suprtrio.zip
                                    svcboot.zip
                                    swatpolc.zip
                                    tangtang.zip
                                    teetert.zip
                                    tgm2.zip
                                    tgm2p.zip
                                    theroes.zip
                                    thoop.zip
                                    tronfp.zip
                                    trophyh.zip
                                    turkhunt.zip
                                    uccopsar.zip
                                    vasara2.zip
                                    vasara2a.zip
                                    vbowl.zip
                                    vbowlj.zip
                                    vf.zip
                                    vmetal.zip
                                    wbmlvc.zip
                                    wcvol95.zip
                                    wcvol95x.zip
                                    wingforc.zip
                                    wofch.zip
                                    wschamp.zip
                                    wschampa.zip
                                    xeviousc.zip
                                    zintrckb.zip
                                    zupapa.zip
                                    

                                    New Samples:

                                    cosmica.zip
                                    fantasy.zip
                                    frogs.zip
                                    ghox.zip
                                    sasuke.zip
                                    spacefb.zip
                                    tekipaki.zip
                                    
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                                    • m2306M
                                      m2306 @Riverstorm
                                      last edited by

                                      @Riverstorm Thank you. So, if I now use Arcade Manager and the CSV for MAME2003 0.78 romset to filter out clones and then add back the games in the list you provided (if removed by AM) I will end up with a Plus romset without clones? What do you think about the removing of non working games with the ArcadeManager CSV for 0.78, will I remove games that are not in the list you provided, that aren't new but made working in Plus?

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                                      • RiverstormR
                                        Riverstorm
                                        last edited by

                                        @m2306 - That's a good point. The new games will obviously not be in the list but non-working to working games I'm not sure if they are in the list. I've not spent any time using AM or looked at the CSV file to know what's in the list vs the m3plus DAT.

                                        If you're just looking to remove the clones from the m3plus DAT I can do that real quick without much issue.

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                                          grant2258 Banned
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                                          yea source files can be added isint too hard to do if someone wants to do it it would be up to arcadez or whoever is helping out with the libretto port. I really dont have anything to do with the project anymore unless its patches for games to work better on lower spec hardware. Ive done a fix for bionic commando need to test it out though and make sure its all good.

                                          As for 1 game 1 rom its not that simple as using regions only you need to pick a rom that works sometimes thats the parent other times its the roms. I dont know any automate solution other than listing every parent and every clone then find pick the first one with a working status or the best working status.

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                                          • ClydeC
                                            Clyde @Riverstorm
                                            last edited by

                                            @Riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                                            Also you could cross reference the list. Here's a link that shows all the changes from added games, clones, hacks, fixed games, added sound, improved sound, etc. by full name on Github.

                                            I prefer this IMHO more eye-friendly version. :)

                                            https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

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