RetroPie forum home
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Home
    • Docs
    • Register
    • Login

    mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Ideas and Development
    mame
    1.5k Posts 70 Posters 1.9m Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • G
      grant2258 Banned
      last edited by

      here is your xml with the source file you wanted https://github.com/grant2258/mamemagic2003/blob/master/mame2003-plus-barcade.xml

      m2306M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • m2306M
        m2306 @grant2258
        last edited by

        @grant2258 Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you. I can imagine other people would appreciate this also. There is no description so just to make sure, is this the Plus changelog games or the full Plus working only, or what? Sorry for being daft.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • G
          grant2258 Banned
          last edited by

          its the full xml gamelist with sourcefile= so it can be filtered. as per request here https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-hundreds-of-new-games-improved-input-features-new-bugs-now-with-runahead-support/1095

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • RiverstormR
            Riverstorm
            last edited by Riverstorm

            @m2306 - I updated from source and then generated a DAT so this should be current I believe. That would include all the games from mame2003 plus all the exclusive additions, fixes, etc. from mame2003-plus you're looking for.

            Here's a download link. I filtered out the clones so the only thing left are parent and "other" ROMs (basically standalone games with no parent).

            Just an FYI it may not be exactly what you want. Take for example Puckman (Japan set 1) who's ROM name is puckman is the parent to Pac-Man (Midway) who's ROM name is pacman. If you want the Japan version you're set! ;) If you're looking for the Midway version then it's been removed. So their could be some cleanup to keep in mind.

            I not 100% sure but I think in the AM thread cosmo0 added a link to convert DATs to CSV if you prefer to work with the files that way. Also if the CSV files doesn't have a "working" field on a per ROM basis I don't see how it could know which ROMs are working.

            I like to use DatUtil which is all command line and a bit cryptic but powerful. If it had a front-end GUI I think it would be the sure fire thing but as it stands it has somewhat of a learning curve. Sometimes you need to run a DAT through multiple times or use the cleanse features.

            In this post I was trying to explain how you could breakout neo-geo, cps1, cps2, cps3, etc. with the "list method" and run against the latest DATs. I haven't fully tested it but from doing a small test I believe this would work fine.

            This would allow the "creation" of current DATs usable with ROM management tools. The key is knowing the parent ROM name and if the name changes. I don't think it changes to often.

            Also you wouldn't need to track individual ROM changes because you're parsing against the current source DAT so the set created is current and working.

            Or another thing is once you have a working ROM set for a specific emulator you could easily build a text file list of the game names which could be used to parse new releases also. On Windows you could use something like dir /b and then use fnr or flash renamer to remove the extension. Then viola you have a list that can be used with DatUtil. You can build the list anyway you want really obviously confined to each emulator's DAT but then you could dump them together.

            With a little ingenuity I think you could easily tweak the list to your liking. Looking at the exception above you could easily remove puckman from the list and add pacman if you're looking for something like 1G1R. Keeping that in mind the puckman and it's clone chain has been broken which in this case I wouldn't mind as the only version I run is the Midway one.

            I've been using the list from this wiki page, then I search the DAT for the parent of each game listed and add it to a text file. Just the main 156 games (not the prototypes, unlicensed hacks, etc.) Which then can be parsed against the main DAT. With that information you can pull the parent ROMs only or parent plus clones. You can also do some filtering based on the description field. No other fields are workable. Something like the manufacturer field etc. would have been nice.

            That's where I was mentioning the sourcefile field would add some additional filtering options based on the driver as their's a parameter to use it. Hopefully that makes sense. I think @grant2258 just provided us with source to do it.

            @grant2258 - Is the link with the sourcefile info incorrect? I think it's pointing to the wrong location.

            m2306M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • G
              grant2258 Banned
              last edited by

              https://github.com/grant2258/mamemagic2003/blob/master/mame2003-plus-barcade.xml is working fine the xml file is there

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • RiverstormR
                Riverstorm
                last edited by

                @grant2258 - That's exactly it! ;) Thanks a bunch for the file with this information.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • m2306M
                  m2306 @Riverstorm
                  last edited by

                  @Riverstorm Thank you for the detailed information. I think I now can create something that's in line with what I had in mind. I would have been happy to do a tutorial for others to follow but this is complicated in many ways and as your PacMan example states, it is up to personal preference and tweaking..

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • REK607R
                    REK607 @REK607
                    last edited by REK607

                    I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

                    G 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • G
                      grant2258 Banned @REK607
                      last edited by

                      @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                      I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

                      people have tried helping many times. We need feedback to help you. If your happy using classic just use that.

                      REK607R 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • REK607R
                        REK607 @grant2258
                        last edited by

                        @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

                        people have tried helping many times. We need feedback to help you. If your happy using classic just use that.

                        Sorry I didnt want to sound rude or anything, I just wanted to say what worked for me now. I'm very very happy with mame2003-plus in fact, but I can't give details at this time because I dont have internet at home and I normally check this at other people homes. I'll take a look again enabling input interface, legacy remapping and analogic control maping on RA :-)

                        G 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • G
                          grant2258 Banned @REK607
                          last edited by

                          @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

                          people have tried helping many times. We need feedback to help you. If your happy using classic just use that.

                          Sorry I didnt want to sound rude or anything, I just wanted to say what worked for me now. I'm very very happy with mame2003-plus in fact, but I can't give details at this time because I dont have internet at home and I normally check this at other people homes. I'll take a look again enabling input interface, legacy remapping and analogic control maping on RA :-)

                          no problem f you want help with this it can be done with feedback with your settings. The easiest way for this to work for you is the following options

                          control mapping: Analog

                          input interface if you dont use a keyboard choose retropad (disables keyboard) else choose simultaneous allows both.

                          Legacy Mapping = on

                          after all this close retroarch delete all your mame2003-plus/cfg directory contents in case you have older version settings. Then use the tab menu to set the controls as RA analog sticks remapping arent supported yet until someone at libretro adds them use the tab menu. The fire buttons are input this game P1 Right/Up, P1 Right/Down, P1 Right/Left, P1 Right/Right.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • RiverstormR
                            Riverstorm
                            last edited by

                            @m2306 - That sounds good. Hopefully it made sense. I am going to continue to put together lists for the systems in my free time for FBNeo as m3plus has sourcefile information now and is not needed. If you can not get exactly what you want I can put together some instructions on how to to do it this way.

                            With this method, at a minimum, you should be able to cleanly pull Neo-Geo, CPS-1, 2 and 3. You can also invert your selections so with a Neo-Geo list you can pull everything but Neo-Geo ROMs. There's a lot of little things you can do in addition @grant2258 posted that link to allow ROMs to be pulled by driver(s). Which is really handy. No lists needed with m3plus. It's the only DAT currently that can do that! ;)

                            @REK607 - I know you struggled with it a lot but hopefully you get it going as m3plus really does work well for those dual sticks games on a controller.

                            m2306M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • m2306M
                              m2306 @Riverstorm
                              last edited by

                              @Riverstorm And anyone following up on this: Here's what I did to achieve a almost cloneless MAME2003-plus romset. I'm sure it's not perfect but seems good for me so far. I started with an up to date full non merged 2003-Plus romset bilt with Clrmamepro. I copied the Plus only games and the games fixed in Plus from the full set to a separate folder (the list of games can be found in the Plus changelog), (I pasted the filnames in a .sh file and used chmod in OSX to make the copying easier). I used Simple Arcade Multifilter (Windows) to filter out gambling games and other unwanted categories from the full set. Then I used Arcade Manager (OSX) and chose a ready made "Working games only" "No clones" CSV for MAME2003, not Plus as the the current version 5 of AM doesn't have CSVs for Plus. Now I should have a .78 set with only working games and no clones. Then I copied the Plus only games and Plus fixed games I separated earlier back into the filtered set. This way I ended up with a set that's (mostly) without clones, (mostly?) working games only and all the games added to MAME2003-Plus since branching from the .78 romset. All games I have tested works and I haven't found anything missing. I have no idea how AM chooses working games from clones and broken games etc., but this gave me a manageable set that isn't a pain to scroll through. I have additionally separated CPS and NeoGeo games from the FinalBurnNeo romset and have those in separate folders. This setup feels ideal for me at the moment. If anyone suspects I made some mistake in the way I did this I'd be happy to hear what I can do to fix it and also as to not spread misinformation about building a romset like this.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • RiverstormR
                                Riverstorm
                                last edited by

                                @m2306 - Uff-da I was messing around and converted the m3plus DAT to CSV format but converting the whole DAT is worthless with AM. You need pre-made lists before you even start.

                                I downloaded AM to see how it works. Basically he pre-built a bunch of CSV files of different criterion. Then you can remove/keep ROMs based on those CSV files. A real slick interface though.

                                With m3plus and FBNeo's rolling development of always adding games the lists will just keep getting further out of date. The good is mame2003 is static so those lists will always up to date. Using a diff set of plus will work there, like you did.

                                Your list sounds pretty good to me. The list I posted above does have a few more games to be added. I'll rebuild my set over the weekend. I usually build both mame2003 and mame2003-plus and then do a compare using mame2003 as the reference set to get an exact list of differences so it's accurate down to the ROM.

                                I wouldn't mind seeing the actual mame2003-plus list. Is there any chance you would be willing to share your set list? Basically if you could provide a list like the one above. The ROM name only, no path or other information needed and pipe it to a file. I can then rebuild a DAT of the set to look through and it would also be usable in ROM management tools for others to build an exact set or at least as a starting point.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • RiverstormR
                                  Riverstorm
                                  last edited by Riverstorm

                                  @m2306 - I believe this updated list should be accurate and current. Summarized their are 217 new rom additions, 79 rom updates, 7 new sample additions and 4 sample updates. That doesn't include the custom OST's that are optional but worth hunting down to add to the set.

                                  On the updated list don't forget Bosconian, Dig Dug, Galaga, etc. have some nice updates that are not cross compatible with mame2003 and will need udpated to run with m3plus and of course Donkey Kong has full working sound which mame2003 doesn't so it's definitely worth grabbing the new/improved samples also.

                                  New Games (217):
                                  1943mii.zip
                                  1945kiii.zip
                                  actionhw.zip
                                  airattck.zip
                                  airattcka.zip
                                  alibabab.zip
                                  alienar.zip
                                  alienaru.zip
                                  arescue.zip
                                  argusg.zip
                                  asurabus.zip
                                  avengrgsj.zip
                                  backfire.zip
                                  baryon.zip
                                  bbbuster.zip
                                  bcstrya.zip
                                  bombkick.zip
                                  boogwing.zip
                                  boogwinga.zip
                                  botanic.zip
                                  brapboysj.zip
                                  bsharkjjs.zip
                                  bublbob1.zip
                                  bublboblp.zip
                                  bublboblu.zip
                                  bublcave.zip
                                  cabala.zip
                                  cabalus.zip
                                  cabalus2.zip
                                  candance.zip
                                  ccastlej.zip
                                  chainrec.zip
                                  charlien.zip
                                  chokchok.zip
                                  cookbib.zip
                                  countrb2.zip
                                  crswd2bl.zip
                                  cutefght.zip
                                  darkmist.zip
                                  dblewing.zip
                                  ddonpacha.zip
                                  ddp3.zip
                                  ddp3a.zip
                                  ddp3b.zip
                                  ddp3blk.zip
                                  ddragon3j.zip
                                  ddream95.zip
                                  deerhunt.zip
                                  deerhunta.zip
                                  deerhuntb.zip
                                  deluxe5.zip
                                  denjinmk.zip
                                  dietgo.zip
                                  dietgoe.zip
                                  dietgoj.zip
                                  dietgou.zip
                                  diggerc.zip
                                  dkongpe.zip
                                  dkongx.zip
                                  dkrdemo.zip
                                  dogosokj.zip
                                  dokidoki.zip
                                  downtowj.zip
                                  dreamwld.zip
                                  drgnwrld.zip
                                  dynagear.zip
                                  esckidsj.zip
                                  espgal.zip
                                  fghthista.zip
                                  fghthistj.zip
                                  fghthistu.zip
                                  fixeighb.zip
                                  flagrall.zip
                                  gaialast.zip
                                  galagamf.zip
                                  galagamk.zip
                                  galagao.zip
                                  galpandx.zip
                                  gangonta.zip
                                  gdfs.zip
                                  ghostlop.zip
                                  glasskr.zip
                                  gnbarich.zip
                                  gpgolf.zip
                                  gt2k.zip
                                  gt3d.zip
                                  gt97.zip
                                  gt98.zip
                                  gt99.zip
                                  gtclassc.zip
                                  gunmast.zip
                                  guwanges.zip
                                  hachamfb.zip
                                  hangzo.zip
                                  hcrash.zip
                                  hcrashc.zip
                                  hedpanicf.zip
                                  hedpanico.zip
                                  hookj.zip
                                  hoops96.zip
                                  hsf2a.zip
                                  hvysmsh.zip
                                  hvysmsha.zip
                                  hvysmshj.zip
                                  ikari3nr.zip
                                  inca.zip
                                  inyourfa.zip
                                  ironclad.zip
                                  joemacr.zip
                                  joemacra.zip
                                  jumpkun.zip
                                  kbash2.zip
                                  ket.zip
                                  keta.zip
                                  ketb.zip
                                  killbld.zip
                                  kngtmare.zip
                                  kof10th.zip
                                  kof2001.zip
                                  kof2002.zip
                                  kof2003d.zip
                                  lasthope.zip
                                  leds2011.zip
                                  lethalen.zip
                                  madalien.zip
                                  magdrop.zip
                                  magdropp.zip
                                  matchit2.zip
                                  matrim.zip
                                  mchampdx.zip
                                  mchampdxa.zip
                                  midresbj.zip
                                  mp_bio.zip
                                  mp_col3.zip
                                  mp_shnb3.zip
                                  mp_soni2.zip
                                  mp_sor2.zip
                                  mp_twc.zip
                                  msgogo.zip
                                  mslug4.zip
                                  mslug5.zip
                                  multchmpk.zip
                                  mwarr.zip
                                  nslasherj.zip
                                  nslashers.zip
                                  olds.zip
                                  olds103t.zip
                                  osman.zip
                                  packbang.zip
                                  piratetr.zip
                                  pktgaldj.zip
                                  pktgaldx.zip
                                  plegends.zip
                                  pnyaa.zip
                                  progear.zip
                                  progearj.zip
                                  prtytime.zip
                                  pturn.zip
                                  puzlstar.zip
                                  pzloop2j.zip
                                  ragtime.zip
                                  ragtimea.zip
                                  riot.zip
                                  rockn2.zip
                                  rockn3.zip
                                  rockn4.zip
                                  rockna.zip
                                  rolcrush.zip
                                  rotd.zip
                                  sabotnba.zip
                                  samsh5sp.zip
                                  samsho5.zip
                                  sbishi.zip
                                  sbishik.zip
                                  sdfight.zip
                                  sengoku3.zip
                                  shdancrb.zip
                                  skullfng.zip
                                  skullfngj.zip
                                  sonicbom.zip
                                  spacelnc.zip
                                  squash.zip
                                  ssonicbr.zip
                                  starfir2.zip
                                  suprridr.zip
                                  suprtrio.zip
                                  svcboot.zip
                                  swatpolc.zip
                                  tangtang.zip
                                  teetert.zip
                                  tgm2.zip
                                  tgm2p.zip
                                  theroes.zip
                                  thoop.zip
                                  touchgok.zip
                                  tronfp.zip
                                  trophyh.zip
                                  turkhunt.zip
                                  tylz.zip
                                  uccopsar.zip
                                  vasara2.zip
                                  vasara2a.zip
                                  vbowl.zip
                                  vbowlj.zip
                                  vf.zip
                                  vmetal.zip
                                  wbmlvc.zip
                                  wcvol95.zip
                                  wcvol95x.zip
                                  wingforc.zip
                                  wizwarz.zip
                                  wofch.zip
                                  wschamp.zip
                                  wschampa.zip
                                  xeviousc.zip
                                  zintrckb.zip
                                  zupapa.zip
                                  
                                  Updated Games (79):
                                  alcon.zip
                                  alibaba.zip
                                  avengrgs.zip
                                  bcstry.zip
                                  bloodwar.zip
                                  bonkadv.zip
                                  bosco.zip
                                  boscomd.zip
                                  boscomdo.zip
                                  boscoo.zip
                                  boscoo2.zip
                                  brapboys.zip
                                  bubbobr1.zip
                                  bublbobl.zip
                                  bublbobr.zip
                                  cabal.zip
                                  countrnb.zip
                                  digdug.zip
                                  digduga1.zip
                                  digdugat.zip
                                  digdugb.zip
                                  dzigzag.zip
                                  esckids.zip
                                  eswat.zip
                                  f1gpstr2.zip
                                  fghthist.zip
                                  fireshrk.zip
                                  fjbuster.zip
                                  fpointbj.zip
                                  fpointbl.zip
                                  galaga.zip
                                  galaga3.zip
                                  galaga3a.zip
                                  galaga3m.zip
                                  galagamw.zip
                                  gallag.zip
                                  gaplus.zip
                                  gaplusa.zip
                                  gapluso.zip
                                  gatsbee.zip
                                  glass.zip
                                  grobda.zip
                                  grobda2.zip
                                  grobda3.zip
                                  gtmr.zip
                                  gundamex.zip
                                  hachamf.zip
                                  hedpanic.zip
                                  hyprduel.zip
                                  mp_gaxe2.zip
                                  mp_sonic.zip
                                  multchmp.zip
                                  mustache.zip
                                  neogeo.zip
                                  pacnchmp.zip
                                  pacnpal.zip
                                  pacnpal2.zip
                                  polepos.zip
                                  polepos1.zip
                                  polepos2.zip
                                  poleposa.zip
                                  poleps2a.zip
                                  poleps2b.zip
                                  rockn.zip
                                  samesam2.zip
                                  samesame.zip
                                  shangon.zip
                                  shisen2.zip
                                  shogwarr.zip
                                  slapfigh.zip
                                  superpac.zip
                                  tdragon.zip
                                  titlef.zip
                                  topracer.zip
                                  touchgo.zip
                                  vimana.zip
                                  vimana1.zip
                                  vimanan.zip
                                  winspike.zip
                                  
                                  New Samples (7):
                                  cosmica.zip
                                  fantasy.zip
                                  frogs.zip
                                  ghox.zip
                                  sasuke.zip
                                  spacefb.zip
                                  tekipaki.zip
                                  
                                  Updated Samples (4):
                                  dkong.zip
                                  dkongjr.zip
                                  galaga.zip
                                  vanguard.zip
                                  
                                  m2306M B 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                  • m2306M
                                    m2306 @Riverstorm
                                    last edited by

                                    @Riverstorm Thank you for the list. I haven’t had the time to tinker (on mobile only most of the week) and get you my list of games. I also think I have to redo or rethink this. I noticed two missing games, MJs Moonwalker is missing and PacMan is included only as the plus version. I don’t see why these would have been left out (other than nowadays MJ could be considered not suitable for children..). I found another thread discussinc a similar topic (https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/20348/all-in-one-overclocked-rpi3b-arcade-rom-set-setup/23). One question also, I got the CHD version 3/5 warning while rebuilding the romset. Is that just a warning because of wrong settings or did I end up with the wrong CHDs now?

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • B
                                      barbudreadmon @Riverstorm
                                      last edited by

                                      @Riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                                      Donkey Kong has full working sound which mame2003 doesn't so it's definitely worth grabbing the new/improved samples also

                                      Long time i didn't use this core, dkong's colors got fixed too ?

                                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • WeirdHW
                                        WeirdH
                                        last edited by WeirdH

                                        I am confused about the 'new and improved samples'. Is there a central place to get them or do I have to compile them myself? I got the 2003-plus romset from somewhere, are they in there? Or do I need the 'current' or 'unofficial' ones from Twisty on mameworld?

                                        TIA for any and all insight.

                                        EDIT: broke rules

                                        B mituM 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • B
                                          barbudreadmon @WeirdH
                                          last edited by

                                          @WeirdH Afaik samples are license-free, so we can share them (unlike your link to licensed content...).
                                          Those are the samples for dkong in fbneo, i would expect they work too in mame2003-plus : https://www.sendspace.com/file/y3d1kg

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

                                          WeirdHW 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator @WeirdH
                                            last edited by

                                            @WeirdH Please don't post links to ROMs in the forum, is one of the rules of the forum. I know the source site has some exceptions in the US, but that's not enough.

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post

                                            Contributions to the project are always appreciated, so if you would like to support us with a donation you can do so here.

                                            Hosting provided by Mythic-Beasts. See the Hosting Information page for more information.