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    • m2306M
      m2306 @grant2258
      last edited by

      @grant2258 Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you. I can imagine other people would appreciate this also. There is no description so just to make sure, is this the Plus changelog games or the full Plus working only, or what? Sorry for being daft.

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        grant2258 Banned
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        its the full xml gamelist with sourcefile= so it can be filtered. as per request here https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-hundreds-of-new-games-improved-input-features-new-bugs-now-with-runahead-support/1095

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        • RiverstormR
          Riverstorm
          last edited by Riverstorm

          @m2306 - I updated from source and then generated a DAT so this should be current I believe. That would include all the games from mame2003 plus all the exclusive additions, fixes, etc. from mame2003-plus you're looking for.

          Here's a download link. I filtered out the clones so the only thing left are parent and "other" ROMs (basically standalone games with no parent).

          Just an FYI it may not be exactly what you want. Take for example Puckman (Japan set 1) who's ROM name is puckman is the parent to Pac-Man (Midway) who's ROM name is pacman. If you want the Japan version you're set! ;) If you're looking for the Midway version then it's been removed. So their could be some cleanup to keep in mind.

          I not 100% sure but I think in the AM thread cosmo0 added a link to convert DATs to CSV if you prefer to work with the files that way. Also if the CSV files doesn't have a "working" field on a per ROM basis I don't see how it could know which ROMs are working.

          I like to use DatUtil which is all command line and a bit cryptic but powerful. If it had a front-end GUI I think it would be the sure fire thing but as it stands it has somewhat of a learning curve. Sometimes you need to run a DAT through multiple times or use the cleanse features.

          In this post I was trying to explain how you could breakout neo-geo, cps1, cps2, cps3, etc. with the "list method" and run against the latest DATs. I haven't fully tested it but from doing a small test I believe this would work fine.

          This would allow the "creation" of current DATs usable with ROM management tools. The key is knowing the parent ROM name and if the name changes. I don't think it changes to often.

          Also you wouldn't need to track individual ROM changes because you're parsing against the current source DAT so the set created is current and working.

          Or another thing is once you have a working ROM set for a specific emulator you could easily build a text file list of the game names which could be used to parse new releases also. On Windows you could use something like dir /b and then use fnr or flash renamer to remove the extension. Then viola you have a list that can be used with DatUtil. You can build the list anyway you want really obviously confined to each emulator's DAT but then you could dump them together.

          With a little ingenuity I think you could easily tweak the list to your liking. Looking at the exception above you could easily remove puckman from the list and add pacman if you're looking for something like 1G1R. Keeping that in mind the puckman and it's clone chain has been broken which in this case I wouldn't mind as the only version I run is the Midway one.

          I've been using the list from this wiki page, then I search the DAT for the parent of each game listed and add it to a text file. Just the main 156 games (not the prototypes, unlicensed hacks, etc.) Which then can be parsed against the main DAT. With that information you can pull the parent ROMs only or parent plus clones. You can also do some filtering based on the description field. No other fields are workable. Something like the manufacturer field etc. would have been nice.

          That's where I was mentioning the sourcefile field would add some additional filtering options based on the driver as their's a parameter to use it. Hopefully that makes sense. I think @grant2258 just provided us with source to do it.

          @grant2258 - Is the link with the sourcefile info incorrect? I think it's pointing to the wrong location.

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            grant2258 Banned
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            https://github.com/grant2258/mamemagic2003/blob/master/mame2003-plus-barcade.xml is working fine the xml file is there

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            • RiverstormR
              Riverstorm
              last edited by

              @grant2258 - That's exactly it! ;) Thanks a bunch for the file with this information.

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              • m2306M
                m2306 @Riverstorm
                last edited by

                @Riverstorm Thank you for the detailed information. I think I now can create something that's in line with what I had in mind. I would have been happy to do a tutorial for others to follow but this is complicated in many ways and as your PacMan example states, it is up to personal preference and tweaking..

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                • REK607R
                  REK607 @REK607
                  last edited by REK607

                  I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

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                    grant2258 Banned @REK607
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                    @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                    I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

                    people have tried helping many times. We need feedback to help you. If your happy using classic just use that.

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                    • REK607R
                      REK607 @grant2258
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                      @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                      @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                      I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

                      people have tried helping many times. We need feedback to help you. If your happy using classic just use that.

                      Sorry I didnt want to sound rude or anything, I just wanted to say what worked for me now. I'm very very happy with mame2003-plus in fact, but I can't give details at this time because I dont have internet at home and I normally check this at other people homes. I'll take a look again enabling input interface, legacy remapping and analogic control maping on RA :-)

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                        grant2258 Banned @REK607
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                        @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        I couldnt remap my controls for Smath TV V. 8.00, neither using TAB or in the RetroArch menu. I finally did it easy: I changed the emulator to mame2003 classic and its working flawlessly and I can even use right stick or buttons for shooting the bad guys.

                        people have tried helping many times. We need feedback to help you. If your happy using classic just use that.

                        Sorry I didnt want to sound rude or anything, I just wanted to say what worked for me now. I'm very very happy with mame2003-plus in fact, but I can't give details at this time because I dont have internet at home and I normally check this at other people homes. I'll take a look again enabling input interface, legacy remapping and analogic control maping on RA :-)

                        no problem f you want help with this it can be done with feedback with your settings. The easiest way for this to work for you is the following options

                        control mapping: Analog

                        input interface if you dont use a keyboard choose retropad (disables keyboard) else choose simultaneous allows both.

                        Legacy Mapping = on

                        after all this close retroarch delete all your mame2003-plus/cfg directory contents in case you have older version settings. Then use the tab menu to set the controls as RA analog sticks remapping arent supported yet until someone at libretro adds them use the tab menu. The fire buttons are input this game P1 Right/Up, P1 Right/Down, P1 Right/Left, P1 Right/Right.

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                        • RiverstormR
                          Riverstorm
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                          @m2306 - That sounds good. Hopefully it made sense. I am going to continue to put together lists for the systems in my free time for FBNeo as m3plus has sourcefile information now and is not needed. If you can not get exactly what you want I can put together some instructions on how to to do it this way.

                          With this method, at a minimum, you should be able to cleanly pull Neo-Geo, CPS-1, 2 and 3. You can also invert your selections so with a Neo-Geo list you can pull everything but Neo-Geo ROMs. There's a lot of little things you can do in addition @grant2258 posted that link to allow ROMs to be pulled by driver(s). Which is really handy. No lists needed with m3plus. It's the only DAT currently that can do that! ;)

                          @REK607 - I know you struggled with it a lot but hopefully you get it going as m3plus really does work well for those dual sticks games on a controller.

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                          • m2306M
                            m2306 @Riverstorm
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                            @Riverstorm And anyone following up on this: Here's what I did to achieve a almost cloneless MAME2003-plus romset. I'm sure it's not perfect but seems good for me so far. I started with an up to date full non merged 2003-Plus romset bilt with Clrmamepro. I copied the Plus only games and the games fixed in Plus from the full set to a separate folder (the list of games can be found in the Plus changelog), (I pasted the filnames in a .sh file and used chmod in OSX to make the copying easier). I used Simple Arcade Multifilter (Windows) to filter out gambling games and other unwanted categories from the full set. Then I used Arcade Manager (OSX) and chose a ready made "Working games only" "No clones" CSV for MAME2003, not Plus as the the current version 5 of AM doesn't have CSVs for Plus. Now I should have a .78 set with only working games and no clones. Then I copied the Plus only games and Plus fixed games I separated earlier back into the filtered set. This way I ended up with a set that's (mostly) without clones, (mostly?) working games only and all the games added to MAME2003-Plus since branching from the .78 romset. All games I have tested works and I haven't found anything missing. I have no idea how AM chooses working games from clones and broken games etc., but this gave me a manageable set that isn't a pain to scroll through. I have additionally separated CPS and NeoGeo games from the FinalBurnNeo romset and have those in separate folders. This setup feels ideal for me at the moment. If anyone suspects I made some mistake in the way I did this I'd be happy to hear what I can do to fix it and also as to not spread misinformation about building a romset like this.

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                            • RiverstormR
                              Riverstorm
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                              @m2306 - Uff-da I was messing around and converted the m3plus DAT to CSV format but converting the whole DAT is worthless with AM. You need pre-made lists before you even start.

                              I downloaded AM to see how it works. Basically he pre-built a bunch of CSV files of different criterion. Then you can remove/keep ROMs based on those CSV files. A real slick interface though.

                              With m3plus and FBNeo's rolling development of always adding games the lists will just keep getting further out of date. The good is mame2003 is static so those lists will always up to date. Using a diff set of plus will work there, like you did.

                              Your list sounds pretty good to me. The list I posted above does have a few more games to be added. I'll rebuild my set over the weekend. I usually build both mame2003 and mame2003-plus and then do a compare using mame2003 as the reference set to get an exact list of differences so it's accurate down to the ROM.

                              I wouldn't mind seeing the actual mame2003-plus list. Is there any chance you would be willing to share your set list? Basically if you could provide a list like the one above. The ROM name only, no path or other information needed and pipe it to a file. I can then rebuild a DAT of the set to look through and it would also be usable in ROM management tools for others to build an exact set or at least as a starting point.

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                              • RiverstormR
                                Riverstorm
                                last edited by Riverstorm

                                @m2306 - I believe this updated list should be accurate and current. Summarized their are 217 new rom additions, 79 rom updates, 7 new sample additions and 4 sample updates. That doesn't include the custom OST's that are optional but worth hunting down to add to the set.

                                On the updated list don't forget Bosconian, Dig Dug, Galaga, etc. have some nice updates that are not cross compatible with mame2003 and will need udpated to run with m3plus and of course Donkey Kong has full working sound which mame2003 doesn't so it's definitely worth grabbing the new/improved samples also.

                                New Games (217):
                                1943mii.zip
                                1945kiii.zip
                                actionhw.zip
                                airattck.zip
                                airattcka.zip
                                alibabab.zip
                                alienar.zip
                                alienaru.zip
                                arescue.zip
                                argusg.zip
                                asurabus.zip
                                avengrgsj.zip
                                backfire.zip
                                baryon.zip
                                bbbuster.zip
                                bcstrya.zip
                                bombkick.zip
                                boogwing.zip
                                boogwinga.zip
                                botanic.zip
                                brapboysj.zip
                                bsharkjjs.zip
                                bublbob1.zip
                                bublboblp.zip
                                bublboblu.zip
                                bublcave.zip
                                cabala.zip
                                cabalus.zip
                                cabalus2.zip
                                candance.zip
                                ccastlej.zip
                                chainrec.zip
                                charlien.zip
                                chokchok.zip
                                cookbib.zip
                                countrb2.zip
                                crswd2bl.zip
                                cutefght.zip
                                darkmist.zip
                                dblewing.zip
                                ddonpacha.zip
                                ddp3.zip
                                ddp3a.zip
                                ddp3b.zip
                                ddp3blk.zip
                                ddragon3j.zip
                                ddream95.zip
                                deerhunt.zip
                                deerhunta.zip
                                deerhuntb.zip
                                deluxe5.zip
                                denjinmk.zip
                                dietgo.zip
                                dietgoe.zip
                                dietgoj.zip
                                dietgou.zip
                                diggerc.zip
                                dkongpe.zip
                                dkongx.zip
                                dkrdemo.zip
                                dogosokj.zip
                                dokidoki.zip
                                downtowj.zip
                                dreamwld.zip
                                drgnwrld.zip
                                dynagear.zip
                                esckidsj.zip
                                espgal.zip
                                fghthista.zip
                                fghthistj.zip
                                fghthistu.zip
                                fixeighb.zip
                                flagrall.zip
                                gaialast.zip
                                galagamf.zip
                                galagamk.zip
                                galagao.zip
                                galpandx.zip
                                gangonta.zip
                                gdfs.zip
                                ghostlop.zip
                                glasskr.zip
                                gnbarich.zip
                                gpgolf.zip
                                gt2k.zip
                                gt3d.zip
                                gt97.zip
                                gt98.zip
                                gt99.zip
                                gtclassc.zip
                                gunmast.zip
                                guwanges.zip
                                hachamfb.zip
                                hangzo.zip
                                hcrash.zip
                                hcrashc.zip
                                hedpanicf.zip
                                hedpanico.zip
                                hookj.zip
                                hoops96.zip
                                hsf2a.zip
                                hvysmsh.zip
                                hvysmsha.zip
                                hvysmshj.zip
                                ikari3nr.zip
                                inca.zip
                                inyourfa.zip
                                ironclad.zip
                                joemacr.zip
                                joemacra.zip
                                jumpkun.zip
                                kbash2.zip
                                ket.zip
                                keta.zip
                                ketb.zip
                                killbld.zip
                                kngtmare.zip
                                kof10th.zip
                                kof2001.zip
                                kof2002.zip
                                kof2003d.zip
                                lasthope.zip
                                leds2011.zip
                                lethalen.zip
                                madalien.zip
                                magdrop.zip
                                magdropp.zip
                                matchit2.zip
                                matrim.zip
                                mchampdx.zip
                                mchampdxa.zip
                                midresbj.zip
                                mp_bio.zip
                                mp_col3.zip
                                mp_shnb3.zip
                                mp_soni2.zip
                                mp_sor2.zip
                                mp_twc.zip
                                msgogo.zip
                                mslug4.zip
                                mslug5.zip
                                multchmpk.zip
                                mwarr.zip
                                nslasherj.zip
                                nslashers.zip
                                olds.zip
                                olds103t.zip
                                osman.zip
                                packbang.zip
                                piratetr.zip
                                pktgaldj.zip
                                pktgaldx.zip
                                plegends.zip
                                pnyaa.zip
                                progear.zip
                                progearj.zip
                                prtytime.zip
                                pturn.zip
                                puzlstar.zip
                                pzloop2j.zip
                                ragtime.zip
                                ragtimea.zip
                                riot.zip
                                rockn2.zip
                                rockn3.zip
                                rockn4.zip
                                rockna.zip
                                rolcrush.zip
                                rotd.zip
                                sabotnba.zip
                                samsh5sp.zip
                                samsho5.zip
                                sbishi.zip
                                sbishik.zip
                                sdfight.zip
                                sengoku3.zip
                                shdancrb.zip
                                skullfng.zip
                                skullfngj.zip
                                sonicbom.zip
                                spacelnc.zip
                                squash.zip
                                ssonicbr.zip
                                starfir2.zip
                                suprridr.zip
                                suprtrio.zip
                                svcboot.zip
                                swatpolc.zip
                                tangtang.zip
                                teetert.zip
                                tgm2.zip
                                tgm2p.zip
                                theroes.zip
                                thoop.zip
                                touchgok.zip
                                tronfp.zip
                                trophyh.zip
                                turkhunt.zip
                                tylz.zip
                                uccopsar.zip
                                vasara2.zip
                                vasara2a.zip
                                vbowl.zip
                                vbowlj.zip
                                vf.zip
                                vmetal.zip
                                wbmlvc.zip
                                wcvol95.zip
                                wcvol95x.zip
                                wingforc.zip
                                wizwarz.zip
                                wofch.zip
                                wschamp.zip
                                wschampa.zip
                                xeviousc.zip
                                zintrckb.zip
                                zupapa.zip
                                
                                Updated Games (79):
                                alcon.zip
                                alibaba.zip
                                avengrgs.zip
                                bcstry.zip
                                bloodwar.zip
                                bonkadv.zip
                                bosco.zip
                                boscomd.zip
                                boscomdo.zip
                                boscoo.zip
                                boscoo2.zip
                                brapboys.zip
                                bubbobr1.zip
                                bublbobl.zip
                                bublbobr.zip
                                cabal.zip
                                countrnb.zip
                                digdug.zip
                                digduga1.zip
                                digdugat.zip
                                digdugb.zip
                                dzigzag.zip
                                esckids.zip
                                eswat.zip
                                f1gpstr2.zip
                                fghthist.zip
                                fireshrk.zip
                                fjbuster.zip
                                fpointbj.zip
                                fpointbl.zip
                                galaga.zip
                                galaga3.zip
                                galaga3a.zip
                                galaga3m.zip
                                galagamw.zip
                                gallag.zip
                                gaplus.zip
                                gaplusa.zip
                                gapluso.zip
                                gatsbee.zip
                                glass.zip
                                grobda.zip
                                grobda2.zip
                                grobda3.zip
                                gtmr.zip
                                gundamex.zip
                                hachamf.zip
                                hedpanic.zip
                                hyprduel.zip
                                mp_gaxe2.zip
                                mp_sonic.zip
                                multchmp.zip
                                mustache.zip
                                neogeo.zip
                                pacnchmp.zip
                                pacnpal.zip
                                pacnpal2.zip
                                polepos.zip
                                polepos1.zip
                                polepos2.zip
                                poleposa.zip
                                poleps2a.zip
                                poleps2b.zip
                                rockn.zip
                                samesam2.zip
                                samesame.zip
                                shangon.zip
                                shisen2.zip
                                shogwarr.zip
                                slapfigh.zip
                                superpac.zip
                                tdragon.zip
                                titlef.zip
                                topracer.zip
                                touchgo.zip
                                vimana.zip
                                vimana1.zip
                                vimanan.zip
                                winspike.zip
                                
                                New Samples (7):
                                cosmica.zip
                                fantasy.zip
                                frogs.zip
                                ghox.zip
                                sasuke.zip
                                spacefb.zip
                                tekipaki.zip
                                
                                Updated Samples (4):
                                dkong.zip
                                dkongjr.zip
                                galaga.zip
                                vanguard.zip
                                
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                                • m2306M
                                  m2306 @Riverstorm
                                  last edited by

                                  @Riverstorm Thank you for the list. I haven’t had the time to tinker (on mobile only most of the week) and get you my list of games. I also think I have to redo or rethink this. I noticed two missing games, MJs Moonwalker is missing and PacMan is included only as the plus version. I don’t see why these would have been left out (other than nowadays MJ could be considered not suitable for children..). I found another thread discussinc a similar topic (https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/20348/all-in-one-overclocked-rpi3b-arcade-rom-set-setup/23). One question also, I got the CHD version 3/5 warning while rebuilding the romset. Is that just a warning because of wrong settings or did I end up with the wrong CHDs now?

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                                    barbudreadmon @Riverstorm
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                                    @Riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                                    Donkey Kong has full working sound which mame2003 doesn't so it's definitely worth grabbing the new/improved samples also

                                    Long time i didn't use this core, dkong's colors got fixed too ?

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                    • WeirdHW
                                      WeirdH
                                      last edited by WeirdH

                                      I am confused about the 'new and improved samples'. Is there a central place to get them or do I have to compile them myself? I got the 2003-plus romset from somewhere, are they in there? Or do I need the 'current' or 'unofficial' ones from Twisty on mameworld?

                                      TIA for any and all insight.

                                      EDIT: broke rules

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                                        barbudreadmon @WeirdH
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                                        @WeirdH Afaik samples are license-free, so we can share them (unlike your link to licensed content...).
                                        Those are the samples for dkong in fbneo, i would expect they work too in mame2003-plus : https://www.sendspace.com/file/y3d1kg

                                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                          mitu Global Moderator @WeirdH
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                                          @WeirdH Please don't post links to ROMs in the forum, is one of the rules of the forum. I know the source site has some exceptions in the US, but that's not enough.

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                                          • WeirdHW
                                            WeirdH @barbudreadmon
                                            last edited by WeirdH

                                            @barbudreadmon Yeah, that was dumb, I thought that source was cleared. Thanks for the link.

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