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    • arcadez2003A
      arcadez2003 @grant2258
      last edited by arcadez2003

      @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

      i had some time to look through some code and managed to start the game 10 times without crashing could can you try this on your test build and let me know how you get on mate. https://github.com/grant2258/mame2003-plus-barcade/commit/bfc7bfb3d1212b5110c5e05dfd77ac0a22e60ea3. PS ive only tested this on 64 bit could be a 64 bit issue will get the pi out when im off work will let you know if it works on that

      Nah no joy, but it's as you suspected a problem with the palette rather than the CPU's where my attention was focused, you'd think the compiler would have spat out
      a warning or two about this or the game would have booted with messed up gfx rather than stalling on boot which made me think it was a CPU communication problem.

      Anyway good job hopefully it'll work with your changes on the platforms that use this core.

      EDIT
      i checked out the core gfx in MAME72 vs 84 where Heli Fire actually works and apart from the palette handling it's on a par more or less in both builds, anyway outta
      curiosity i updated the palette code to MAME84 and whatya know the game still wont boot, i think there's more going on here than just the palette code in the driver
      causing issues in MAME78 if you can sort this you'll deserve a medal :)

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        grant2258 Banned
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        It was very tempremental worked sometimes and not others. Just mark it not working for now seems like a good idea until its fixed. If I manage to find anything ill post and let you know dont want to fill up the posts here with it. It might naw be the palette just was the first thing i noticed time will tell.

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        • darkniorD
          darknior @WeirdH
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          @WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

          @darknior Link

          Many thanks, i have take it i will try to make me a good rom pack :)

          And thanks too @arcadez2003 to update it too ;)
          https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/blob/fbdc5f482355a7e2eb7b6c7f01d7d1bdf7d9b61a/metadata/mame2003-plus.xml

          Life is game, just play it !

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          • WeirdHW
            WeirdH @grant2258
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            @grant2258 Is it possible that palette changes also affected colors in other games?

            Because I might be imagining things, but since the update some effects in Storm Blade have been multi colored where they didn't use to be (shockwave before enemies explode and apparently some shadows). At least to the best of my recollection. Again, I might be remembering wrong, was just wondering about it, because I noticed it yesterday.

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            • arcadez2003A
              arcadez2003 @darknior
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              And thanks too @arcadez2003 to update it too ;)
              https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/blob/fbdc5f482355a7e2eb7b6c7f01d7d1bdf7d9b61a/metadata/mame2003-plus.xml

              @grant2258 did all the graft i just copied and ported across his xml :)

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              • arcadez2003A
                arcadez2003 @WeirdH
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                @WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                @grant2258 Is it possible that palette changes also affected colors in other games?

                Because I might be imagining things, but since the update some effects in Storm Blade have been multi colored where they didn't use to be (shockwave before enemies explode and apparently some shadows). At least to the best of my recollection. Again, I might be remembering wrong, was just wondering about it, because I noticed it yesterday.

                A year or so back we ported some video changes from later MAME for Storm Blade and Ultra X Weapons to fix the colours and graphical problems............

                https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/commit/dcab429899470b1d893a0b3f660fbc7f4211eda8#diff-e19b55627b841d35ec504da4089655c4

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                • akafoxA
                  akafox
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                  I am correct that not all games have been optimized or for this core..yet every game that runs on the mame 2003 core should work on the mame plus core?

                  I ask because I was running LibreELEC (kodi) on my pi 3 and using retroplayer within kodi and Advanced Emulator Launcher..I loaded DK (dkong.zip) and it ran poorly with the plus core..but just fine with the standard core.

                  (yes I mentioned that on the kodi forums already. Just the gaming community is much larger here.)
                  (I will admit I have not had much use of the plus core...yet...)

                  People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                  • RiverstormR
                    Riverstorm
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                    @akafox - Their are actually around a dozen "B" games that only exist in mame2003 but for the most part the ROM sets are identical (minus the m3plus exclusives) and should all work fine in either core. I mainly use m3plus and as far as I know dkong was running fine as of the last commit at around 60 FPS. Both cores use the same ROM set and I believe the same driver code. I've never tried Kodi so I don't know if that could be part of the issue.

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                    • arcadez2003A
                      arcadez2003 @akafox
                      last edited by arcadez2003

                      @akafox said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                      I am correct that not all games have been optimized or for this core..yet every game that runs on the mame 2003 core should work on the mame plus core?

                      I ask because I was running LibreELEC (kodi) on my pi 3 and using retroplayer within kodi and Advanced Emulator Launcher..I loaded DK (dkong.zip) and it ran poorly with the plus core..but just fine with the standard core.

                      (yes I mentioned that on the kodi forums already. Just the gaming community is much larger here.)
                      (I will admit I have not had much use of the plus core...yet...)

                      The only difference with Donkey Kong in this core over MAME2003 is that it uses newer and improved samples, and @grant2258 made a small fix for the gfx decoding
                      that's it more or less and i seriously doubt that would cause a drop in the performance dept.

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                      • akafoxA
                        akafox
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                        thank you both.

                        Yeah it may just have something to with kodi itself or the porting the core from a real libreto core to a kodi add-on. Not a deal breaker just curious. I'll keep you posted from the other forum if you want.

                        I can launch kodi from ES sure but never could never figure out how to get into kodi and then exit it cleanly back into ES without a reset of the system. It's nice to have a "all-in-one" entertainment box but then again two PIs are better than one I guess? :P

                        Okay I am not going to hijack this thread so back on topic...

                        is there a one stop place I can look to find a list of improvements or/and "m3plus exclusives" that is available? And thank you for your HARD work (yeah we used to be called coding wizards...but honestly if we were wizards you think we would code instead of making gold out of air? xD )

                        People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                        • arcadez2003A
                          arcadez2003 @akafox
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                          @akafox said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          thank you both.

                          Yeah it may just have something to with kodi itself or the porting the core from a real libreto core to a kodi add-on. Not a deal breaker just curious. I'll keep you posted from the other forum if you want.

                          I can launch kodi from ES sure but never could never figure out how to get into kodi and then exit it cleanly back into ES without a reset of the system. It's nice to have a "all-in-one" entertainment box but then again two PIs are better than one I guess? :P

                          Okay I am not going to hijack this thread so back on topic...

                          is there a one stop place I can look to find a list of improvements or/and "m3plus exclusives" that is available? And thank you for your HARD work (yeah we used to be called coding wizards...but honestly if we were wizards you think we would code instead of making gold out of air? xD )

                          https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

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                          • WeirdHW
                            WeirdH @arcadez2003
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                            @arcadez2003 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                            @WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                            @grant2258 Is it possible that palette changes also affected colors in other games?

                            Because I might be imagining things, but since the update some effects in Storm Blade have been multi colored where they didn't use to be (shockwave before enemies explode and apparently some shadows). At least to the best of my recollection. Again, I might be remembering wrong, was just wondering about it, because I noticed it yesterday.

                            A year or so back we ported some video changes from later MAME for Storm Blade and Ultra X Weapons to fix the colours and graphical problems............

                            https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/commit/dcab429899470b1d893a0b3f660fbc7f4211eda8#diff-e19b55627b841d35ec504da4089655c4

                            Are you saying I should not be seeing colors glitching then?

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                            • arcadez2003A
                              arcadez2003 @WeirdH
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                              @WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                              @arcadez2003 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                              @WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                              @grant2258 Is it possible that palette changes also affected colors in other games?

                              Because I might be imagining things, but since the update some effects in Storm Blade have been multi colored where they didn't use to be (shockwave before enemies explode and apparently some shadows). At least to the best of my recollection. Again, I might be remembering wrong, was just wondering about it, because I noticed it yesterday.

                              A year or so back we ported some video changes from later MAME for Storm Blade and Ultra X Weapons to fix the colours and graphical problems............

                              https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/commit/dcab429899470b1d893a0b3f660fbc7f4211eda8#diff-e19b55627b841d35ec504da4089655c4

                              Are you saying I should not be seeing colors glitching then?

                              Not that im aware of, show me a pic

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                              • WeirdHW
                                WeirdH @arcadez2003
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                                @arcadez2003 Okay, some horrible phone pics, but the problem is visible. It appears when a shockwave of an exploding enemy overlaps with a shadow in the background. (these same shadows appear red when using mame2003, by the way)

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                                • arcadez2003A
                                  arcadez2003
                                  last edited by arcadez2003

                                  Ok thanks for taking the time to upload some pics, i can confirm im not getting this in my test build, but as i always say it's different MAME72 standalone emulator
                                  on a different platform although the driver for this game and the video code are identical in both builds, is anyone else getting these graphical problems
                                  when playing Storm Blade in this core.??

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                                  • RiverstormR
                                    Riverstorm
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                                    I am seeing the same issue running RetroPie 4.5.1 and m3plus commit 0278635 on a Pi 3. Screenshot below:

                                    stmblade-191017-161844.png

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                                    • arcadez2003A
                                      arcadez2003
                                      last edited by arcadez2003

                                      Im starting to think it's this way in current MAME also, going by this pic from the arcade database and this YT vid

                                      stmblade.png

                                      I guess that's how i didn't spot it as it's a case of blink and you'll miss it, two things it could be the graphical emulation is not yet 100% or it actually did this on the arcade pcb.

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                                      • RiverstormR
                                        Riverstorm
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                                        @arcadez2003 - I'm not completely sure if it's always been there. I have an image at least 6 months and another at least a year or older if it helps to track it down I'll load them up.

                                        Current MAME 0.214 does look correct from what I can tell, just tested it now. With Retroarch you can frame advance so it's easy to catch but with current MAME you get about a half second or less to capture it during play so, not even double tapping the pause key helps. Maybe @WeirdH can add to it as it's a good catch, good eye! :) I would have just kept playing blissfully unaware.

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                                        • arcadez2003A
                                          arcadez2003 @Riverstorm
                                          last edited by arcadez2003

                                          Aye i see what ya mean i didn't spot that video was from 7 years ago :) your right it seems to be sorted in the latest builds, this might be the issue
                                          im sure we had some troubles with the screen flipping a while back............

                                          https://mametesters.org/view.php?id=4669

                                          If not then it'll likely be one of the many graphical updates to the SSV driver over the years, i dont really have the time to look at this in more detail just now
                                          but i might take another peek at the video code down the road.

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                                            barbudreadmon @Riverstorm
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                                            @arcadez2003 @Riverstorm @WeirdH FBNeo also got some issues with some SSV games on arm/aarch64 (still trying to figure out the issue), but FWIW this one seems fine.

                                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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