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    • WeirdHW
      WeirdH @arcadez2003
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      @arcadez2003 Dude, thanks for all your work on it. It's almost the only core I use on my cab right now (few exceptions use 2010) and I am very grateful for your wizardry.

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        Asure
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        @arcadez2003 I just registered to thank you (and do some suggestions with encrypted system18 stuff) but it looks like I'll be adding those myself sometime in the future. Thank you again for all the backporting man!

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        • REK607R
          REK607
          last edited by REK607

          How do you know the names for the samples for a game with samples support? I'm trying to set up Teki Paki.

          By the way, thank you @arcadez2003 for such a great work. You can be proud, it's an excellent work.

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          • arcadez2003A
            arcadez2003 @Asure
            last edited by

            @Asure said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

            @arcadez2003 I just registered to thank you (and do some suggestions with encrypted system18 stuff) but it looks like I'll be adding those myself sometime in the future. Thank you again for all the backporting ma

            What are your suggestions with regards to Sega System18.??

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            • arcadez2003A
              arcadez2003 @REK607
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              @REK607 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

              How do you know the names for the samples for a game with samples support? I'm trying to set up Teki Paki.

              By the way, thank you @arcadez2003 for such a great work. You can be proud, it's an excellent work.

              Usually the samples are named the same as the game rom eg for example dkong for both, Teki Paki is a special case as you wont find the sample on twistys site,
              im not sure if we can link to samples on here otherwise i'd just link you to a site that hosts the ThunderMAME Toaplan samples or send it your way myself.

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              • RiverstormR
                Riverstorm
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                @arcadez2003 - Thanks for all the hard work you, @grant2258, @markwkidd and others put into this core. It's my main core for arcade gaming with some FBNeo and AdvMAME thrown into the mix also. Hopefully the Libretro folks will keep it running as the RA frontend advances.

                You know the fun doesn't have to end. There's always "newer" cores more suited for grafting code, if I remember correctly, that would run excellent on these low powered devices! ;) Nah, so many games and so little time!

                But you know whenever someone says they are done there's always one more game, on a lazy afternoon that looks easy enough to throw into the mix! :)

                @REK607 - If it helps the current list of games that require samples for m3plus:

                armora.zip
                astrob.zip
                astrof.zip
                battles.zip
                berzerk.zip
                blockade.zip
                boothill.zip
                bosco.zip
                buckrog.zip
                carnival.zip
                circus.zip
                congo.zip
                cosmica.zip
                cosmicg.zip
                depthch.zip
                dkong.zip
                dkongjr.zip
                elim2.zip
                fantasy.zip
                frogs.zip
                galaga.zip
                ghox.zip
                gorf.zip
                gridlee.zip
                invaders.zip
                invinco.zip
                main.txt
                mario.zip
                monsterb.zip
                natodef.zip
                panic.zip
                polepos.zip
                pulsar.zip
                qbert.zip
                rallyx.zip
                reactor.zip
                ripoff.zip
                samples.txt
                sasuke.zip
                seawolf.zip
                sharkatt.zip
                solarq.zip
                spacefb.zip
                spaceod.zip
                spacewar.zip
                spacfury.zip
                starcas.zip
                starcrus.zip
                startrek.zip
                subroc3d.zip
                sundance.zip
                tacscan.zip
                tankbatt.zip
                targ.zip
                tekipaki.zip
                thehand.zip
                thief.zip
                turbo.zip
                vanguard.zip
                warrior.zip
                wow.zip
                xevious.zip
                zaxxon.zip
                zektor.zip
                
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                • REK607R
                  REK607 @arcadez2003
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                  @arcadez2003 that would be great. I have been able to put the sound to work but not fully, it's exiting the game suddenly after a few minutes of playing it.

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                  • RiverstormR
                    Riverstorm
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                    @REK607 - I'm not sure what platform you running on but with RetroPie 4.5.1 on the Pi 3 Teki Paki runs well. I'm not very good at it but I had no crashes up to around level 20 or so. I played a few games. Any Tetris style game I was just never very good. =/

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                    • theissdevT
                      theissdev @arcadez2003
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                      @arcadez2003 Thanks for all your work. This is really an awesome 2003!

                      Cocktail Cab Project - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/23763/cocktail-cab-project?_=1592408967951

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                      • arcadez2003A
                        arcadez2003
                        last edited by

                        @Asure i'd be interested to hear back from ya with regards to Sega System 18 and your plans around supporting more games by using the decrypted romsets.

                        Arcade Addict

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                        • REK607R
                          REK607 @Riverstorm
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                          @Riverstorm as I see it, my problem is the music is in a very high quality and it's closing the game after a few minutes. I can have sound effects but no music. I run RetroPie 4.5.1 on a Pi 3B. Tetris is a hard game indeed!

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                          • RiverstormR
                            Riverstorm
                            last edited by

                            @REK607 - Ah, ok I am using a 15MB sample pack. I do have the bigger one that is 199MB but I haven't tried it yet. That may be the cause as it sounds like you already suspect. The bigger sample pack is 16 bit with a sample rate of 44100 Hz, (only single channel) so the bitrate is much much higher. The 15MB sounds quite good though even though some clipping most likely occurs at a sample rate of 8000, 8 bit, single channel. The game does run smooth and sounds good on the Pi. Tetris will always be a classic staple game but I like this a bit better, it's a fun little game! :)

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                            • REK607R
                              REK607 @Riverstorm
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                              @Riverstorm @arcadez2003 it's been a great success to convert the samples and now the game is fully working at 8000 Hz (about 33 MB), will try 16000 Hz soon.

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                                janderclander14
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                                Do you know if it is possible to disable the 'auto-centering' in the X axis of racing games? I'm using a spinner (mouse) as racing wheel and, when turning right or left, the car automatically self-centers in 1 or 2 seconds. The only solution to maintain the direction is to keep rotating the spinner in the same direction. This obviously happens in games that use a 270 driving wheel (such as Outrun), but also in games that supposedly used a 360 driving wheel (that is, a spinner or rotary enconder), such as Pole Position. You can see the exact effect in this video (using Mame 2003):

                                What I would like is to make the spinner act like in this video (which also uses MAME, albeit a newer Windows version):

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                                • arcadez2003A
                                  arcadez2003
                                  last edited by arcadez2003

                                  Alright im not coming outta retirement just had some unfinished business namely some code sitting around which adds the proper M68705 MCU for both
                                  Renegade and Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun, problem was i could not suss out a way to workaround some incompatible code which sends a signal between
                                  the main CPU and the MCU so the games did not boot, so i drafted in dink of FBN dev fame since he wasn't too busy just now to take a look at the code
                                  and he sorted it all out in under two mins.

                                  So thanks to him you can now play both of these games in MAME2003+ safe in the knowledge they are no longer using buggy MCU simulation code
                                  and as such they can now be considered 100% faithfully emulated.....

                                  renegade.png

                                  kuniokun.png

                                  Funny enough although i dabble with this core i dont actually use it, but just incase someday i do decide to pick it up i added support for this wee game which i like,
                                  and since like the above games we now have a proper M68705 MCU dump for it, it's finally 100% emulated so no better time to add support for this quirky little number
                                  from the golden age of Taito....

                                  Rumba Lumber

                                  rumba.png

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                                  • REK607R
                                    REK607
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                                    Hello! I've been adding more and more sound/music to the games. Does Batsugun have full sound? I can only have it partially working, don't know why.

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                                      barbudreadmon @REK607
                                      last edited by barbudreadmon

                                      @REK607 iirc toaplan games got proper sound support only 2-3 years ago in MAME & FBNeo/FBAlpha, not sure @arcadez2003 backported this to mame2003+

                                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                      • arcadez2003A
                                        arcadez2003
                                        last edited by

                                        The MAME2003 cores do not support the V25 varient of the NEC CPU which would be required along with a massive update of the Toaplan2 driver
                                        to have full sound and music for Batsugan, Dogyunn, FixEight, Knuckle Bash and V-Five, the workload and doubts around the compatibility of the code
                                        should we have attempted to backport it are the reasons why it was never attempted.

                                        As you noticed Batsugan and Knuckle Bash have some sound, this due to me adding support for simulated MSM6295 sound commands to the driver so at least you
                                        get the Sfx in those games where as they were totally silent previously, so that and adding working bootlegs of FixEight and Knuckle Bash both of which have full sound and
                                        music is at least making the best of a bad situation.

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                                        • REK607R
                                          REK607 @arcadez2003
                                          last edited by

                                          @arcadez2003 that's an excellent answer, now I understand. By the way, I'm really happy with the way all metal slugs are working on the emulator too, so pleased!

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                                          • arcadez2003A
                                            arcadez2003 @barbudreadmon
                                            last edited by arcadez2003

                                            @barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                                            @REK607 iirc toaplan games got proper sound support only 2-3 years ago in MAME & FBNeo/FBAlpha, not sure @arcadez2003 backported this to mame2003+

                                            Your thinking of the recent HD647180 sound MCU dumps, we did backport the ones for Fire Shark and Vimana adding full sound and music for those games to this core
                                            however we ran into some problems with Ghox and Teki Paki as they would not boot with the new MCU code, so we just ported across the ThunderMAME samples for
                                            both of those ones, so at least they would have sound and music should users have the samples in their set.

                                            Batsugun is a different matter entirely the sound was finally emulated in 2011 but we're missing the required CPU for this in the MAME2003 core..........

                                            16th January 2011: David Haywood - Alex Jackson added support for the extended V25/V35 features to the NEC V20/V30 core in MAME. These features (timers, memory-mapped register banking, custom interrupt controller) are used by the sound programs of several Toaplan titles. He then hooked things up properly in the driver, giving full sound to Batsugun. Batsugun has unencrypted sound code, so was the easiest one to get running. V-Five / Grindstormer, Fix Eight, Knuckle Bash and Dogyuun will also benefit from this once their sound code has been fully decrypted. This is just a matter of time and a bit of effort in figuring out the programs. For the remaining Toaplan games (Teki Paki, Vimana, Fire Shark, Ghox, Whoopee JPN version) the sound MCUs need decapping, which will require funding / donations for this purpose.

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