Need a Working Retropie/Emulator List
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I have several more emulators I'd like to add to my Retropie setup, but before I go to all that trouble of putting all the resources and roms together, I wanted to make sure my Retropie/Retroarch setup can actually play them. While NES, SNES and other classic systems run flawlessly, I hear N64 is pretty bad. I'm not sure about Arcade or Saturn, but PS1 seems to be great.
Is there an updated list of the state of what each core can do for each system? Color coded or labeled that tells you if the system is very playable (meaning most games), just OK (maybe half the library) or unplayable (meaning it only can run a handful of games). That would be very helpful!
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@AlphaBetaPie What model pi do you have?
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@AlphaBetaPie I use the BestArcade list for referencing my arcade games / emulators. It doesn't have every game, they're not all tested and some of the results are incorrect, but it should get you a long, long way on your coin-op journey...
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Thanks for the info! And I have a Pi 3 Model B, but I don't mind upgrading to a Pi 4 if it opens up more compatibly options for emulators. Should I do that (and is there a currently compatibility list I can reference somewhere?)
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@AlphaBetaPie pi 4 is still a work in progress so I don't think anyone is really bothering with comparability charts quite yet. I can tell you that both the pi 3 and 4 do well for the most part with all systems up to and including ps1. Pi 3 can play about 25-50% of the N64 game library fairly well, the pi 4 is probably closer to 75% or better. A few Dreamcast games and even fewer psp games work well on the pi 3. The pi 4 plays almost all Dreamcast games very well and psp is a huge improvement as well. What systems specifically are you interested in running?
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the wiki page for each system would typically have comments on how the system runs for different pis (if it runs badly, if nothing is said you can assume it runs well). we also have compatibility lists but they are all a mess.
in short, no-one is going to be maintaining a comprehensive list of this information - there's too much testing to be done, it changes every day, and when we open things up to wider user contributions they become a mess within days :)
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@WeirdH said in Need a Working Retropie/Emulator List:
I use the BestArcade list for referencing my arcade games / emulators.
While the FBNeo spreadsheet is bit outdated (the sega system 24 & sonicbom issues were fixed last year) and there are some errors too (reporting missing controls while the controls are just weird), for the most part this one is a lot more accurate than the one in the retropie documentation.
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@barbudreadmon Oh, I use it all the time and like it a lot. I have just come across several games already that are listed as working, only to see them start lagging and stuttering in the second or third level. It's logical stuff like that doesn't show up in initial testing, but it did prompt me to use some extra caution.
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@WeirdH I tested all the games reported as not working from that spreadsheet on my pi3+, from what i can say :
- most of the midway games are T/W Unit games, but they aren't in the clrmamepro dat file, so yeah they won't work since they aren't even supported.
kinst/kinst2: instructions to play those games weren't followed, not that it matters since there is no way they would run full speed with our driver on an arm socslitheris playable if you follow instructions on the screen (aka press P2 start on first boot)aceattac&suprleaguse way too many controls, and as such are problematic to map. it might be possible to map every controls by also using analog sticks, but since idk anything about what would be convenient for volleyball/baseball games, i'll wait for someone to make suggestions.- all other games either work, or are tagged as non-working but have a working clone
Also, lots of the games reported as being laggy are totally fine after reading those instructions.
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@quicksilver for the N64 is there a still a major need to choose between the lr-mupen64plus and mupen64plus-GlideN64 for games? You can set each game to play on any emulator so that really isn't a major issue.
And good to know that Dreamcast and PSP games work much better. I figured they would due to the increased processing power. Do you know if there is a huge difference between the Pi 4 with 2GB Ram compared to the 4GB Ram? Probably worth it just to buy the 4GB.
Thanks
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@nightbirdmedia I set my default to mupen64plus-gliden64, its faster than lr-mupen64plus-next (not to be confused with lr-mupen64plus which is deprecated). Then if I encounter a game that doesnt run well I test the other emulators/plugins for performance for that particular game.
Dont need the 4gb model unless you are also planning to use as a full blown desktop computer. Even then the 2gb model can work as a desktop as well for light use.
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@nightbirdmedia said in Need a Working Retropie/Emulator List:
@quicksilver for the N64 is there a still a major need to choose between the lr-mupen64plus and mupen64plus-GlideN64 for games? You can set each game to play on any emulator so that really isn't a major issue.
Thanks
lr-mupen64plus is deprecated and not installed by default in pi4. currently, lr-mupen64plus-next is the default, which uses GLideN64 as the video plugin so should have identical compatibility to standalone m64p-gliden64 (at least, pending some outstanding PRs).
Do you know if there is a huge difference between the Pi 4 with 2GB Ram compared to the 4GB Ram? Probably worth it just to buy the 4GB.
no
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Thanks!
I'm not planning on running it as a full blown desktop computer so the 2GB should suffice for me.
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I saw a thread from last year saying that retropie isnt' yet playable on Raspberry Pi 4? Is this still the case? Couldn't find any updated thread on it. I see there are only 2 versions of retropie, one version for Raspberry Pi 0/1 a version for Raspberry Pi 2/3. None for 4 so assuming it hasn't been officially released yet?
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@nightbirdmedia There are weekly dev builds for download. https://files.retropie.org.uk/images/weekly/
Currently unsupported but overall everything is working pretty good. If you are just doing basic setup I dont suspect youll run into too many issues.
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@WeirdH said in Need a Working Retropie/Emulator List:
I have just come across several games already that are listed as working, only to see them start lagging and stuttering in the second or third level. It's logical stuff like that doesn't show up in initial testing, but it did prompt me to use some extra caution.
HI I'm the author of the spreadsheet and of the related tool.
There's a dedicated subject here : https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/23904/tool-bestarcade?_=1586248284657
Yeah, I think you know it but I can't possibly test every game more than a few tens of seconds into the first level, even just that took me hundred of hours to test the current reduced romset.
Everyone is welcome to make comments and I will fix them as soon as possible though...@barbudreadmon said in Need a Working Retropie/Emulator List:
While the FBNeo spreadsheet is bit outdated (the sega system 24 & sonicbom issues were fixed last year) and there are some errors too (reporting missing controls while the controls are just weird), for the most part this one is a lot more accurate than the one in the retropie documentation.
Well the issue is that I don't test latest fbneo version but the latest one embedded in the current distribution I'm using, so wether it's Recalbox, Batocera or Retropie, it might not even be the same version...
On a side note this is exactly why I think fbneo new version numbering is a very bad idea, my 2.44 is not Retropie's 2.44, is not fbneo latest 2.44, and basically there is no way to know which one I'm using and if it is really uptodate without rescanning everything with clrmamepro
So there might be some discrepancies, especially towards Retropie, which I assume is much more regularly updated than the other distributions.
I also don't retest working games when a new version is released, only new games or previously broken games, so games which used to run perfectly in the past but aren't anymore due to performance badderments will still be wrongly tagged working (hello CPS3)
@barbudreadmon said in Need a Working Retropie/Emulator List:
Also, lots of the games reported as being laggy are totally fine after reading those instructions.
Will try to test all that and add precise infos when I have the time.
And when i'll switch back on retrogaming because I had the stupidest idea to build myself a pincab and this monstruous thing has been taking all my free time for the past two months -
Hmm. For some reason I can't get games to load using mupen64plus-gliden64. Am I missing something?
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@nightbirdmedia are your N64 roms zipped? if so they need to be unzipped. Are you using the official retropie image?
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@quicksilver ah yes they are zipped. And yes I'm using the official image.
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@nightbirdmedia Post an emulator log on pastebin.com (take the contents of `/dev/shm/runcommand.log).
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