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    Good news regarding tearing and low EmulationStation performance on Pi 4

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    • GigaCatG
      GigaCat @Brunnis
      last edited by GigaCat

      kernel=kernel8.img
      arm_64bit=1
      over_voltage=6
      arm_freq=2147
      gpu_freq=750
      dtoverlay= vc4-v3d-pi4
      
      Linux raspberrypi 5.4.29-v8 aarch64
      
      Mesa - 20.0.0-devel (git-f21b31a0db)
      

      I was feeling experimental and had compiled Mesa 20.0 shortly before stumbling across the Linux 5.4 public test. In my testing so far, everything is slightly faster, both in I/O and in 3D performance.

      • Redream: Sonic Adventure 2 still has its infamous slowdown spots, namely every part of the downhill dashes exhibits slowdown into a framerate in the 40s. More a known pain point in Redream than anything, but I wanna see just how much I can squeeze out of this Pi right now.

      • Redream: Ikaruga just works. All 60fps, all the time. Not a ton of experience with the game pre-update, so I'm not certain whether this was ever even an issue.

      • Redream: Marvel vs Capcom 2 is super smooth after a lot of caching.

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      • mituM
        mitu Global Moderator @GigaCat
        last edited by

        @GigaCat AFAIK Redream comes with it's own Mesa driver, so if you're not launching the binary directly, without EmulationStation, you'll get the same MESA version as shipped with the package.

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        • George SpiggottG
          George Spiggott
          last edited by

          How does it handle N64 Shadows of the Empire? It is a good example of a game that nearly runs well on a Pi4 but not quite. Does the extra speed available benefit other areas like sound cutting out?

          Currently running:
          Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
          ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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          • PicardP
            Picard
            last edited by

            I can't get RetroPie to build here. Is there something I need to do to manually first compile Mesa or such, or any additional packages I need to install?

            Clean Raspbian Buster install on RPi 4.
            RetroPie Setup 4.5.18 (3a95bc6).
            Kernel: 5.4.29-v8+ #1302 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 2 18:05:46 BST 2020 aarch64 GNU/Linux
            Added to /boot/config.txt:

            • dt-overlay=vc4-kms-v3d-pi4
            • arm_64bit=1

            Returned error:

            Could not successfully build retroarch - RetroArch - frontend to the libretro emulator cores - required by all lr-* emulators (/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/retroarch/retroarch not found).

            First error details in log:

            /usr/bin/ld: obj-unix/release/gfx/drivers_shader/shader_gl_core.o: in function `gl_core::Framebuffer::init()':
            shader_gl_core.cpp:(.text+0x8a0): undefined reference to `glTexStorage2D'
            /usr/bin/ld: shader_gl_core.cpp:(.text+0x9f0): undefined reference to `glTexStorage2D'
            

            (Going to try to go back to the old / stable kernel for now.)

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @Picard
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              • mituM
                mitu Global Moderator @Picard
                last edited by

                @Picard We don't support running on the 64bit kernel.

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                • PicardP
                  Picard @mitu
                  last edited by Picard

                  @mitu Thanks, I'll undo that. (Mistaken assumption from GigaCat's response above.)
                  Edit: No immediate help after going back to 32-bit kernel, then uninstalling and attempting to re-install RetroPie. Going back to a clean re-image to re-attempt...
                  Edit: Worked after reverting to a clean re-image.

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                  • quicksilverQ
                    quicksilver @George Spiggott
                    last edited by

                    @George-Spiggott can you give an example of a level that plays poorly on SOTE? Which emulator are you using specifically? I feel like this game ran fullspeed last I played it.

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                    • DarksaviorD
                      Darksavior @Brunnis
                      last edited by Darksavior

                      Noob question, does rpi-update offer kernel headers now? I need them to build the gamecon pad driver.

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                      • mituM
                        mitu Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @Picard then the error could be from a source Mesa install and not from the kernel upgrade.
                        @Darksavior I don't think so, you'll need rpi-source, but it downloads the full kernel sources and not just the headers.

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                        • DarksaviorD
                          Darksavior @mitu
                          last edited by

                          @mitu Thanks, but not sure what to do with the instructions on that page.

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                          • George SpiggottG
                            George Spiggott @quicksilver
                            last edited by

                            Thanks @quicksilver. The fps drops to around 45 at times during the Hoth missions but this may be the normal frame rate for the game as the game doesn't seem that slow. I understand that some slowdowns can be expected with high end N64 games even on native hardware. The sound cuts in and out from the intro sequence onwards into at least as far as the Hoth missions. I'm using lr-mupen64plus-next.

                            I'm overclocked with the specs in my sig and running the emulator unmodified.

                            Currently running:
                            Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
                            ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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                            • RascasR
                              Rascas @Darksavior
                              last edited by

                              @Darksavior To install 5.4 kernel headers, run the rpi-source to get the kernel source, go into the kernel dir (should be /home/pi/linux-xxxxx) and run:

                              make headers_install INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/usr
                              
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                              • quicksilverQ
                                quicksilver @George Spiggott
                                last edited by

                                @George-Spiggott Without getting too far off topic. Try mupen64plus-gliden64. It seems to run full speed for me. Generally it is faster than lr-mupen64plus-next.

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                                • DarksaviorD
                                  Darksavior @Rascas
                                  last edited by

                                  @Rascas said in Good news regarding tearing and low EmulationStation performance on Pi 4:

                                  make headers_install INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/usr

                                  Thanks, but that did not work.

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                                  • RascasR
                                    Rascas @Darksavior
                                    last edited by

                                    @Darksavior Works fine here. With that command, headers are installed to /usr/include/ like it is normal but you can change the path to where you want to install them.

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                                    • DarksaviorD
                                      Darksavior @Rascas
                                      last edited by

                                      @Rascas There might be an issue with the pad driver compiling with it, I really have no idea what I'm doing. I'll create a new thread and see if anyone can help.

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                                      • DarksaviorD
                                        Darksavior
                                        last edited by

                                        Ignoring my gamepad problem, I briefly tried these drivers.
                                        It doesn't support 4k60? 4k30 makes ES's menu glitch out and it eventually crashes to the terminal. 1080p seems fine and smooth.
                                        No audio since it defaults to this new hdmi audio driver. I found some way to make the old driver the default in alsamixer, but it didn't last.

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                                        • SwampyS
                                          Swampy
                                          last edited by

                                          First tests with raspberry pi 4 and kernel 5.4 and no problems so far.
                                          I can confirm, that emulationstation runs in full speed now.

                                          Till now, I didn't test all emulators. I will post again, if I find any problems.

                                          Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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                                          • saccublendaS
                                            saccublenda @Swampy
                                            last edited by

                                            Does ES work with kms driver, that is setting dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d-pi4 in /boot/config.txt?

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