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    Low framerate on main EmulationStation menu - Pi 4

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    • roslofR
      roslof @rilight
      last edited by

      @rilight you are probably running in 4K mode?
      There is a thread here to change this to HD. Recommended for performance.

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      • R
        rilight
        last edited by

        @roslof It doesn't appear so, I launched a game with verbose logging enabled and /dev/shm/runcommand reports a resolution of 1920x1080.

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        • roslofR
          roslof @rilight
          last edited by

          @rilight runcommand.log refers to what you launched. Not ES itself.

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          • R
            rilight
            last edited by

            Hmm, I see... I'll try the option and see if it does anything.

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            • R
              rilight
              last edited by

              @roslof I just added the hdmi_max_pixel_freq options to my /boot/config.txt and rebooted, still no luck.

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              • R
                rilight
                last edited by

                I'm definitely getting more stuttering/tearing in Gambette at the moment than I would expect from the 4. I checked my temps, and I'm sitting at around 59°, so I think it should be working fine.

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                • mituM
                  mitu Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Can you turn on the FPS counter and see what's the current FPS in-game ?
                  To check your current resolution, you can run tvservice -s from a terminal.

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                  • R
                    rilight
                    last edited by rilight

                    @mitu tvservice -s reports 1920x1080 @ 60Hz, and the framerate counter in-game shows about 57-60 fps. So maybe the problem isn't the framerate itself, but something else...

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                    • R
                      rilight
                      last edited by

                      (Also, again, I'm definitely new to this so please correct me if I have any misconceptions or if you need more information!)

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                      • mituM
                        mitu Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Is your TV set to 'Game Mode' ?

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                        • R
                          rilight
                          last edited by

                          I'm not sure - this is actually a monitor, not a TV. I can try to enable those settings, but what confuses me is that using this monitor worked fine before on the 3B+. Come to think of it, could it maybe be something to do with my micro-HDMI to HDMI adapter?

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                          • R
                            rilight
                            last edited by

                            I just tested changing my /boot/config.txt back to how it was on my 3B+ (not disabling overscan, not changing any HDMI settings, etc) and the problem is still there. I can include a copy of the config if that would help?

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                            • mituM
                              mitu Global Moderator @rilight
                              last edited by

                              @rilight Sure, why not. Use code tags (```) to surround the config.txt contents.

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                                rilight
                                last edited by rilight

                                The version I've been using up until this point (by which I mean, without the changes to make it more like the 3B+ config):

                                [pi4]
                                max_framebuffers=2
                                
                                ## Overclock settings
                                # Uncomment to overclock the arm. 700 MHz is the default.
                                #arm_freq=2147
                                #arm_freq=2000
                                #arm_freq_min=500
                                #v3d_freq=750
                                #over_voltage=6
                                # Enable turbo temporarily at boot to speed up times
                                #initial_turbo=60
                                # Increase the SD reader clock speed (default 50)
                                dtparam=sd_overclock=100
                                
                                [all]
                                # Enable DRM VC4 V3D driver on top of the dispmanx display stack
                                dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d
                                
                                ## Base settings
                                disable_splash=1
                                boot_delay=0
                                gpu_mem=256
                                
                                ## Audio settings
                                # Enable audio (loads snd_bcm2835)
                                dtparam=audio=on
                                
                                ## HDMI Settings
                                # Remove black borders on display when scaling
                                disable_overscan=1
                                
                                # Request "Game Mode"
                                edid_content_type=4
                                
                                ## Disable the optional hardware interfaces
                                dtparam=i2c_arm=off
                                dtparam=i2s=off
                                dtparam=spi=off
                                
                                ## Disable 4K?
                                [hdmi:0]
                                hdmi_max_pixel_freq=200000000
                                
                                [hdmi:1]
                                hdmi_max_pixel_freq=200000000
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                                • mituM
                                  mitu Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Configuration seems fine. Do you have WiFi enabled ?

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                                  • R
                                    rilight
                                    last edited by

                                    @mitu I have wpa_supplicant enabled, yes. Does that cause performance issues? To be clear, this isn't a problem with laggy inputs. It's what's being displayed on the screen that's the problem.

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                                    • mituM
                                      mitu Global Moderator @rilight
                                      last edited by

                                      I have wpa_supplicant enabled, yes. Does that cause performance issues?

                                      No, just checking what might cause any interference with the HDMI signal. At this point I'd probably try another mini-HDMI to HDMI cable or switching to a lower resolution (720p ?) and see if the problem still occurs.

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                                      • R
                                        rilight
                                        last edited by

                                        Unfortunately I don't have another mini-HDMI adapter... I haven't seen anything from other users of the adapter indicating it could be causing problems like this (the part number for reference is B07K21HSQX). I'll try changing the resolution.

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                                        • R
                                          rilight
                                          last edited by rilight

                                          @mitu I changed the resolution to 720p with hdmi_mode=85 and hdmi_group=2, and performance in the main menu of ES is all but normal again. Gambette is no longer showing the same kind of tearing issues, though the framerate does occasionally dip just below 60fps (EDIT: I checked the game I'm running in a benchmarking spreadsheet and I believe this is normal). Why would this be happening? I thought the Pi 4 had more than powerful enough of a graphical processor to drive 1080p.

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                                          • roslofR
                                            roslof @rilight
                                            last edited by

                                            @rilight said in Low framerate on main EmulationStation menu - Pi 4:

                                            I thought the Pi 4 had more than powerful enough of a graphical processor to drive 1080p.

                                            The 4B can handle it. We haven't figured out your issue quite yet.

                                            If it helps, here are some of my config.txt settings:

                                            hdmi_group=1
                                            hdmi_mode=16
                                            
                                            hdmi_max_pixel_freq:0=200000000
                                            hdmi_max_pixel_freq:1=200000000
                                            
                                            dtparam=i2c_arm=on
                                            
                                            dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d
                                            max_framebuffers=2
                                            
                                            dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d
                                            
                                            enable_uart=1
                                            
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