Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood I don't think you need to set it each time.
Saving and swapping discs is easy, now the only thing that needs figuring out is how to map F1, F2 and F3 to a joystick.
It's great you could get it to work! Isn't that music awesome?
Why F1 - F3? Are they the swapping buttons? I've had to work now so can't fiddle.. I don't massively mind having a keyboard plugged in anyway, I always play at my desk.
If I close and then reopen OpenMSX, I have to reload the Extension. It is not there by default.
The music is great!
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@AdamBeGood F1 - F3 are for pausing, saving and loading.
Mind you since you need a mouse and keyboard around to swap to the save disk anyway, it might be a waste of time.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood F1 - F3 are for pausing, saving and loading.
Mind you since you need a mouse and keyboard around to swap to the save disk anyway, it might be a waste of time.
Yeah, maybe a battle that doesn't need fighting!
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Which leads me to wonder - how did people play those games back then? They seem to have joystick support yet joysticks in the early MSX era had very few buttons, certainly not enough to play a game with many possible inputs like Metal Gear.
Did people use the joystick for most of the gameplay, then reverted to the keyboard for more specific functions?
If anybody knows a bit about how actual MSX computers handled gaming, I'm all ears.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
Which leads me to wonder - how did people play those games back then? They seem to have joystick support yet joysticks in the early MSX era had very few buttons, certainly not enough to play a game with many possible inputs like Metal Gear.
Did people use the joystick for most of the gameplay, then reverted to the keyboard for more specific functions?
If anybody knows a bit about how actual MSX computers handled gaming, I'm all ears.
I think that would be the case, yep. I was just looking at the text for the Metal Gear manual.
F4 is "Transceiver", but then the core buttons are given as keyboard and joystick commands. So I think either just Keyboard, or Keyboard and Joystick would be the way.
The joystick would have always been connected to the Keyboard, so it wouldn't have been too much of an inconvenience to use both.
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@AdamBeGood Kind of ironic when you consider that the PC crowds of today wouldn't touch a controller or joystick if their lives depended on it ^^
Thanks for the info!
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood Kind of ironic when you consider that the PC crowds of today wouldn't touch a controller or joystick if their lives depended on it ^^
Thanks for the info!
Hahaha, true!
I am just blaring the music as the missus has gone out. It is so good for the time.
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@AdamBeGood Speaking of ; are you sure you need to set the extension every time you start openMSX?
The SCC music begins automatically for me every time, and it seems to me like once you've added an extension it is supposed to simply stay there.Edit : And yes, the music is incredible, but to be honest the MSX is chock full of great scores. Check out Yuzo Koshiro's score for Xanadu on MSX1, Space Manbow for MSX2, the Gradius/Nemesis games.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood Speaking of ; are you sure you need to set the extension every time you start openMSX?
The SCC music begins automatically for me every time, and it seems to me like once you've added an extension it is supposed to simply stay there.If I go to Extensions-> Remove when I first boot, the Snatcher option is not available there. So much assumption is that it isn't added. I can see it as an option once I've added it though.
Edit: the sounds does seem right straight away though.
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Right, I do see what you mean, I have the same issue.
Shall we just chalk it down to another MSX emulator glitch? ^^ I'm just happy to play the game with SCC music (the PSG soundtrack was atrocious). -
@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
Right, I do see what you mean, I have the same issue.
Shall we just chalk it down to another MSX emulator glitch? ^^ I'm just happy to play the game with SCC music (the PSG soundtrack was atrocious).I can't see it makes any difference anyway...
I am just trying out those other games now - I guess these ones are fine just through BlueMSX? No messing with SCC. Xanadu is a fun tune.
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@AdamBeGood Space Manbow is amazing, I think it's my favourite shooter on the system. Hard as hell though.
Edit : You'll need to set your input to Joystick + Emulated Keyboard for games with a complex control scheme like the two Metal Gears. They work fine in lr-fmsx.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood It seems .ROM games run fine in lr-bluemsx and lr-fmsx. My preference is lr-fmsx as mapping the controls is as simple as setting your input to Joystick + Emulated Keyboard, although some games, like Xanadu, do require a keyboard to get into the inventory and save menus.
I tested Illusion City on the Turbo R this morning and it runs fine in lr-bluemsx. Openmsx requires a Boosted Turbo R, I don't have the courage as of yet to repeat the process of getting that to work.Hahaha I think we should just play some stuff for a while... Space Manbow is really good! My controller seems to map okay in Blue and Open without me having to do anything.
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Weird - while trying to respond to your last post I seem to have edited my previous one ^^
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
Weird - while trying to respond to your last post I seem to have edited my previous one ^^
Spooky!
Metal Gear works fine for me without any messing about on BlueMSX. I can use a controller and operate my "transceiver"!
Was Illusion City on Mega CD translated? Looks a good game.
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@AdamBeGood Metal Gear is a mess for me on bluemsx. I can't use the transceiver or get into any of the menus.
Edit : Illusion City wasn't translated on Mega CD, but there's a translation for the Turbo R. It's incomplete, however. Only six out of eight discs were translated. Fifteen years ago or something like that...
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood Metal Gear is a mess for me on bluemsx. I can't use the transceiver or get into any of the menus.
How weird...
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@AdamBeGood Are you perhaps using a driver like xboxdrv?
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@AdamBeGood said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood It seems .ROM games run fine in lr-bluemsx and lr-fmsx. My preference is lr-fmsx as mapping the controls is as simple as setting your input to Joystick + Emulated Keyboard, although some games, like Xanadu, do require a keyboard to get into the inventory and save menus.
I tested Illusion City on the Turbo R this morning and it runs fine in lr-bluemsx. Openmsx requires a Boosted Turbo R, I don't have the courage as of yet to repeat the process of getting that to work.Hahaha I think we should just play some stuff for a while... Space Manbow is really good! My controller seems to map okay in Blue and Open without me having to do anything.
With Illusion City, do you get a message that says about it requiring a Turbo machine, but that you may continue? If I change the machine type to Turbo R and restart in Blue MSX, I still get this.
Now, I've come out and gone back in again on the new Turbo R setting and I am just getting a blank screen...Arg.
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@Zering I am using that! (xboxdrv)
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