Old Computer Appreciation Thread
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
Wow, so much to catch up on!
I find that PC98 roms are mostly .fdd actually. They're a bit of a pain, but .fdi and .hdi games seem to work out of the box on my end. I think Rude Breaker is probably the easiest game to set up.
PC98 on RPi has a lot of issues. For example, my .fdd files do not appear in ES unless I scrape the whole system. More importantly, and this is something I was going to open a thread about soon, translated games do not seem to display any text. There are a lot of games that seem great that require a translation patch, ie. the Farland Story games.@AdamBeGood Please share your .wav files checksums. The issue may be entirely unrelated. Like I said, PC98 emulation is tricky and there is very little information.
I do not believe .m3u files work. When I tried, it didn't work, but that was ages ago and may have done it wrong.
To suppress the slowdown in Rude Breaker, you will need to set the CPU Clock Multiplier high. 24 did it for me, but for some games, ie. Flame Zapper Kotsujin, you may need to set a much lower value.
I believe mapping the controller in lr-n2pkai is as easy as going into the RetroArch menu and switching a setting in the Options menu. I don't remember which one but I think it's fairly self-explanatory. Many games require a keyboard and mouse though.@Folly Thank you for all your help with the .m3u files! I'm just catching up after a long night, but I'll look into it this week and let you know how I get on...
8a1cf3c72683a2620bef0737f1aa0c32bde47ae5 2608_bd.wav
b4bbefabe19b427a092dfd9279ad08d037c4e83b 2608_hh.wav
4382aceb6968e3cb259cc7f2565a828494e0b3eb 2608_rim.wav
0ea4f93b81df9dbb8d48590b440f5910c0b798b6 2608_sd.wav
dcf9da3ce28608b6bb177b35c16ee6f7057cff5b 2608_tom.wav
31e6381c65a562574299f2add724dc808fcb5dd3 2608_top.wav
910fae6763c0cd59b3957b6cde479c72e21f33c1 BIOS.ROM
541271ea46c5166a1e054379963b0dc663e9b60f FONT.ROM
9bca7d5116788776ed0f297bccb4dfc485379b41 ITF.ROM
34137c287c39c44300c04ee97c1e6459bb826b60 SOUND.ROMI've just typed those out as I couldn't think of a better way of doing it that would be quicker than me just getting to typing...
I sorted out the joypad issue now, thank you. Yet to get any game apart from Rude Breaker to work though...
Fair enough on the .m3u issue. Most games don't seem to need it anyway, and I saw there was an in-game menu so maybe swapping disks is possible there if we did need to play a multi-disk game.
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@AdamBeGood I've got the same sums. Can you give us more detail about the Issue? File types, screenshot, anything like that?
Where is lr-np2kai looking for your bios?
Edit : I may have misspoken, I'll double check my sums in a sec.
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@AdamBeGood I've got the same sums. Can you give us more detail about the Issue? File types, screenshot, anything like that?
Where is lr-np2kai looking for your bios?
Edit : I may have misspoken, I'll double check my sums in a sec.
Cool, let me know. So far as I know it is looking in RetroPie/BIOS/np2kai. It has certainly created an np2kai.cfg file in there.
I get the CPU - High and then Memory lines on a screen, and then a black screen with Japanese text in the centre, which translate on my Google app as "Please insert the System Disk".
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@AdamBeGood Here are my checksums :
bios.rom - e246140dec5124c5e404869a84caefce
font.rom - 2af6179d7de4893ea0b705c00e9a98d6
itf.rom - e9fc3890963b12cf15d0a2eea5815b72
sound.rom - caf90f22197aed6f14c471c21e64658d
2608_bd.wav - 90310248964425690f47c7d09b0ae61b
2608_hh.wav - 4932d26fc9eaa60dca90248cdd4ff8b0
2608_rim.wav - 8510f4de81aad417f7853606d899760f
2608_sd.wav - f0e65db251cbda5af7def30fbb9c24dc
2608_tom.wav - 2c15be5d50c94721288d9700de736b86
2608_top.wav - 5b5bf9736631d3ef01180ed66dafe270So our files don't match but given that my checksums don't match the documentation and that I've still been able to run a bunch of games, I doubt that this is the issue.
Could you go into your RetroArch menu and check under Directory/System Bios to see where the emulator is actually looking? -
@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
Wow, so much to catch up on!
I find that PC98 roms are mostly .fdd actually.I see, I have to do my homework better.
I was too fast with my answer. Will have to look at all the files. Pfff... many.Seems there are many different bios versions.
Here are my checksums :
90310248964425690f47c7d09b0ae61b 2608_bd.wav
4932d26fc9eaa60dca90248cdd4ff8b0 2608_hh.wav
8510f4de81aad417f7853606d899760f 2608_rim.wav
f0e65db251cbda5af7def30fbb9c24dc 2608_sd.wav
2c15be5d50c94721288d9700de736b86 2608_tom.wav
5b5bf9736631d3ef01180ed66dafe270 2608_top.wav
0c052b1f1bfd0ece11286d2ff45d296f bios.rom
693fd1da3239d4bbeafc77d211718fc5 font.rom
72ea51443070f0e9212bfc9b793ee28e itf.rom
f5543b8a68e8ac297447102215d9eee4 np2kai.cfg
42c271f8b720e796a484cc1165ff4914 sound.rom -
@Folly Is it working for you?
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@AdamBeGood Here are my checksums :
bios.rom - e246140dec5124c5e404869a84caefce
font.rom - 2af6179d7de4893ea0b705c00e9a98d6
itf.rom - e9fc3890963b12cf15d0a2eea5815b72
sound.rom - caf90f22197aed6f14c471c21e64658d
2608_bd.wav - 90310248964425690f47c7d09b0ae61b
2608_hh.wav - 4932d26fc9eaa60dca90248cdd4ff8b0
2608_rim.wav - 8510f4de81aad417f7853606d899760f
2608_sd.wav - f0e65db251cbda5af7def30fbb9c24dc
2608_tom.wav - 2c15be5d50c94721288d9700de736b86
2608_top.wav - 5b5bf9736631d3ef01180ed66dafe270So our files don't match but given that my checksums don't match the documentation and that I've still been able to run a bunch of games, I doubt that this is the issue.
Could you go into your RetroArch menu and check under Directory/System Bios to see where the emulator is actually looking?It just has /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS listed... Should I be amending that to /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/np2kai or is that correct?
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@AdamBeGood You need to amend that to np2kai, yes.
I looked into the issue of japanese text/translated not appearing in lr-np2kai, and it seems it is a known issue. The font.rom in BIOS/np2kai should enable the text to appear, but for some reason that function in the libretro port of the emulator is broken.
Text does appear in np2pi but the screen is all squeezed in the upper-left corner of the screen, and I can't get it to unsqueeze in emulator, so I'm looking at editing the config file or some such directly. Problem is I can't find it. @Folly Any ideas? -
@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@AdamBeGood You need to amend that to np2kai, yes.
I looked into the issue of japanese text/translated not appearing in lr-np2kai, and it seems it is a known issue. The font.rom in BIOS/np2kai should enable the text to appear, but for some reason that function in the libretro port of the emulator is broken.
Text does appear in np2pi but the screen is all squeezed in the upper-left corner of the screen, and I can't get it to unsqueeze in emulator, so I'm looking at editing the config file or some such directly. Problem is I can't find it. @Folly Any ideas?I've put in some other BIOS files now, and I am getting a "How Many Files? 0-15" message, and then whatever I enter, I am dumped into a PC-88 Basic command prompt. Sigh... I will try some other files.
Interesting on the translation side of things, I did see some games I'd like to translate already - Rusty, E.V.O.
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@AdamBeGood did you ascertain that your previous bios did not work by amending the directory in the retroarch menu?
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@AdamBeGood did you ascertain that your previous bios did not work by amending the directory in the retroarch menu?
Yep, I tried that. The result didn't change - service disk message. I am really racking my brains to try and work out what I am doing wrong. I've tried a lot of files now. Maybe I'll have a break and go back to it later.
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@AdamBeGood What file type are you using and what game are you trying to play?
I'm thinking now if Rude Breaker runs maybe it's not even BIOS-related. -
@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@AdamBeGood What file type are you using and what game are you trying to play?
I'm thinking now if Rude Breaker runs maybe it's not even BIOS-related.Well, I'm still busy with other things. Just referring to the few games I have tested. (13cm ......)
I do not have Rude Breaker jet. -
Here is my first attempt for creating m3u files automaticcaly.
Go to the /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc88 directory :cd /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc88If your files are in a subdirectory for each game, it will find the games and make a .m3u file in that directory.
This is the 1 line command :
create_m3u=$(ls -d */ | sed 's/\///g'); echo "$create_m3u" | while read line; do echo "making $line.m3u"; cd "$line"; ls *.d88 -w1 > "$line.m3u"; cd ..; doneedit (explanation):
- it gets the direcory's names
- replaces the "/" in the output
- puts the directory name into a string
- echo's it and reads every line
- goes to every individual directory
- reads the disk files in that directory
- uses the name of the directory to make an .m3u
- puts the info in the m3u file
- returns to it's original directory
- until it has done every directory
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@Folly You're a legend. I'll try that today!
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@Folly You're a legend. I'll try that today!
My advise, try it first in a separate test directory with just a few games in it. See what happens.
If you want an explenation on how it works then I can add that ofcourse.
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@Folly Do the games need to be in separate directories?
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@Folly Do the games need to be in separate directories?
Yes they do need to be in seperate direcory's.
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@Folly Naturally once the .m3u are generated i can freely put all my files in my pc88 directory?
Will the same method work for x68000 games?
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