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      Zering @Folly
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      @Folly Haha okay well I've installed lr-quasi88 from source and I'm giving it a spin now. I'm really hoping Final Crisis run right, that game looks totally awesome.

      I just love the graphical style of those old 8-bit PC games, they've got something a little special.

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        Folly @Zering
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        @Zering
        I don't think you need that old pc of yours. :)

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          Zering @Folly
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          @Folly I hope not. That thing is a fossil. I tried running SD Snatcher on it the other day when we couldn't get it working and the whole thing crashed.
          My Pi 3B was a better computer ^^

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            AdamBeGood @Zering
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            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @Folly Haha okay well I've installed lr-quasi88 from source and I'm giving it a spin now. I'm really hoping Final Crisis run right, that game looks totally awesome.

            I just love the graphical style of those old 8-bit PC games, they've got something a little special.

            I love the way the border and screen is so packed with detail on some of them, it makes me want to get on with PC88 as well.

            But first things first. How do you guys do checksums? I am using sha1sum on RetroPie. Is that the right thing to do. I've just downloaded ten different sets of BIOS and none of them match you guys.

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              Zering @AdamBeGood
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              @AdamBeGood Don't worry about it matching. Get the BIOS straight from Project Neko. If it still doesn't work with those, we know the problem is coming from something else.

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                mitu Global Moderator @Zering
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                @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                Speaking of, both M88 and Neko Project II come packaged with the appropriate BIOS. I'm wondering if that means we're all right to share them? @mitu

                Do they have a proper license attached ?

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                  Zering @mitu
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                  @mitu How would I go about establishing that?

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                    Folly @Zering
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                    @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @Folly I hope not. That thing is a fossil. I tried running SD Snatcher on it the other day when we couldn't get it working and the whole thing crashed.
                    My Pi 3B was a better computer ^^

                    On old computers you can use my RetropieXstation script :
                    https://github.com/FollyMaddy/retropieXstation
                    or the RetroRun script :
                    https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroRun
                    ( added possible resolutions changes in both scripts)

                    (perhaps it does not work for openMSX though, never tried)

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                      Zering @Folly
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                      @Folly Interesting! I might try that. Not sure my computer will be thanking you for the extra work though ^^

                      I'm still getting sloppy results in lr-quasi88, even after installing from source. I see the extra CPU option in the RetroArch menu but it doesn't seem to do anything.
                      Could you point me to the directory where you found the file that you edited to set the value for that option to 2?

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                        mitu Global Moderator @Zering
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                        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @mitu How would I go about establishing that?

                        Do they have a license file accompanying them, or the emulator includes a Readme/License file that explains the licencing (re-distribution/modification/etc.) ?

                        For instance, the source release of M88 that I found specifically says that ROMs are not included and user must get the ROMs from the machine (https://github.com/rururutan/m88/blob/master/README.md).

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                          Zering @mitu
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                          @mitu Ah, that's my bad. I didn't pick them up from the emulator's websites, so my guess is the .zips I found were edited.

                          Thanks for clarifying that.

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                            Folly @Zering
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                            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @Folly Interesting! I might try that. Not sure my computer will be thanking you for the extra work though ^^

                            I'm still getting sloppy results in lr-quasi88, even after installing from source. I see the extra CPU option in the RetroArch menu but it doesn't seem to do anything.
                            Could you point me to the directory where you found the file that you edited to set the value for that option to 2?

                            Press F1 -> option -> sub-cpu -> alway ........ -> F1
                            (restart)
                            or
                            q88_sub_cpu_mode = "2"
                            in
                            /opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch-core-options.cfg

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                              AdamBeGood @Zering
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                              @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @AdamBeGood Don't worry about it matching. Get the BIOS straight from Project Neko. If it still doesn't work with those, we know the problem is coming from something else.

                              I've installed Project Neko on my PC (well, downloaded that is, installing is a stretch), and there don't seem to be BIOS with that, or on the site. I'll try googling around.

                              Edit: I feel like I am jinxed, or like I'm being a real idiot today. There is some kind of BIOS included as games are getting further than on my Pi (while still not loading).

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                                Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                @AdamBeGood You're jinxed ^^

                                I think I'm having some bad luck myself, with PC88.

                                @Folly Still no luck with PC88. I've reinstalled from source twice. The sub CPU setting is set to the right value.

                                But, testing with Final Crisis, my video output looks nothing like yours. There are basically no colours besides white and purple, yours has a bunch of red and other colours.

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                                  Folly @Zering
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                                  @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @AdamBeGood You're jinxed ^^

                                  I think I'm having some bad luck myself, with PC88.

                                  @Folly Still no luck with PC88. I've reinstalled from source twice. The sub CPU setting is set to the right value.

                                  But, testing with Final Crisis, my video output looks nothing like yours. There are basically no colours besides white and purple, yours has a bunch of red and other colours.

                                  Perhaps you have an older verion of the game. The older versions of the pc-88 just have a few colors.
                                  Is you version set to V2 ?

                                  My game version has 5 disks.

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                                    Zering @Folly
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                                    @Folly Mine only has three.

                                    What is your rom named?

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                                      Folly @Zering
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                                      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @Folly Mine only has three.

                                      What is your rom named?

                                      Fire Hawk - Thexder 2 (Game Arts)

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                                        Zering
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                                        @Folly I mean Final Crisis ^^

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                                          Folly @Zering
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                                          @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @Folly I mean Final Crisis ^^

                                          Ok. have also 3 disks
                                          Final Crisis (Techno Grard)

                                          c7a225228ab2f24535b30d816883645d Final Crisis (Disk A).d88
                                          7dfd1a416f0e1434bbbddb87d19dc4d1 Final Crisis (Disk B).d88
                                          1486b21aaf38c018229d3867c186a2bb Final Crisis (Disk C).d88

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                                            Zering @Folly
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                                            @Folly That's the exact same version I've got.
                                            Could the differences be because you're running them via .m3u?

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