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      Zering @AdamBeGood
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      @adambegood Haha told you! ^^
      I'll look into the C thing in a short bit.

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        AdamBeGood @Zering
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        @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @adambegood Haha told you! ^^
        I'll look into the C thing in a short bit.

        I wouldn't mind if it worked on my keyboard, I would just press it there. Not ideal but I don't really mind.

        On Rusty, jump and attack use special. Maybe worth checking that doesn't work for Night Slave. Long shot though.

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          Zering @AdamBeGood
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          @adambegood I don't understand what you mean about Rusty?

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            AdamBeGood @Zering
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            @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @adambegood I don't understand what you mean about Rusty?

            Jump and Attack pressed together use the special items.

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              Zering @AdamBeGood
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              @adambegood Figured out the C Issue. For this game, set your Joypad D-Pad to Mouse/Keyboard/Joypad Mapping to Arrow 3Button. Edit : Or is it Keypad 3-button? One of those two work.

              Can I just say how much I adore the graphics on this system? That extra resolution is just gorgeous (same for the PC88 to a lesser extent).

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                Folly
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                Hi,

                Was a bit curious if I was able to translate japanese text from a screenshot of a game.
                ( how are you translating @AdamBeGood ? )

                Isolated the text > online OCR > online translator :
                2020-11-07-191940_1024x768_scrot_crop.png

                Isolated the text > tesseract OCR (open source) > online translator :
                2020-11-07-192615_1024x768_scrot_crop.png

                I was thinking, should it be possible to "under title" a game with translations this way.

                I read about patches, but these are not made for all games.

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                  Zering @Folly
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                  @folly There are quite a few games on the PC98 that have been translated thankfully, but if your idea worked that'd be pretty amazing.

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                    Folly @Zering
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                    @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @folly There are quite a few games on the PC98 that have been translated thankfully, but if your idea worked that'd be pretty amazing.

                    Yes, I saw many for the PC98 (also the patches).
                    Well perhaps I will do some more tests. Would be an extremely nice feature in Retropie if this could be done. :)

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                      Zering @Folly
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                      @folly Indeed! So many of those games would deserve a translation but aren't.
                      Do you think this sort of thing would be within the realm of possibility? I imagine it would take a pretty big toll on the Pi's CPU no?

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                        Folly @Zering
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                        @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @folly Indeed! So many of those games would deserve a translation but aren't.
                        Do you think this sort of thing would be within the realm of possibility? I imagine it would take a pretty big toll on the Pi's CPU no?

                        Indeed, a big toll if all frames would have to be processed. Perhaps it's better to let the user decide when a translation has to be made. (by pressing or every 30 seconds or so)

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                          Zering @Folly
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                          @folly What about a situation in which the 'translations would be streamed from another device, ie. a PC or a phone?

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                            Folly @Zering
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                            @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @folly What about a situation in which the 'translations would be streamed from another device, ie. a PC or a phone?

                            Good idea, then the load is more on that device.

                            I have used a VNC connection with my PI to a tablet. Using the tabled as a display. I was able to play games. So this would be possible.

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                              Zering @Folly
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                              @folly What would it take to make something like this happen then?

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                                Folly @Zering
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                                @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                @folly What would it take to make something like this happen then?

                                Well, if it could be done directly on the pi, then screenshots have to be pushed to tesseract-ocr, the created text then have to be shifted to a translator (online or offline (open source)), then put back to Retroarch as an overlay.

                                Ofcourse, that's a lot of work. Pfff....

                                Will try some. (but indeed, perhaps it's not feasible)

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                                  Zering @Folly
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                                  @folly I literally did not understand a word ^^
                                  Is there anything you can work from? Surely somebody somewhere must have had a similar idea.

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                                    Folly @Zering
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                                    @zering

                                    I will explain a bit better.

                                    I didn't expect, but it could be quite easy when using just a screenshot made in the normal way.

                                    manually did this test :

                                    • made a screenshot of "oilswell" with the screen "select game with joystick"
                                    • used tesseract to recognise and save the text from the picture
                                    • used "trans"(commandline google translate shell) to read the text file (it recognises my language and translates to that)
                                    • then I can use "xosd-bin" to overlay the text in the game. (tested this program and it works)

                                    Will see if i can automate that. Curious what the result will be.
                                    My script has to look , on the fly, for pictures, delete them, translate and show them. Seems possible !!!

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                                      Zering @Folly
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                                      @folly You're a true computer whiz! I've learnt more about this stuff just chatting with you than I have most of the time I've had the Pi.
                                      I'm very excited to hear the results.

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                                        Folly @Zering
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                                        @zering

                                        here is a picure from the test :

                                        text size and color can be change, I think. (did not test yet)

                                        2020-11-07-214639_800x600_scrot.png

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                                          AdamBeGood @Zering
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                                          @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @adambegood Figured out the C Issue. For this game, set your Joypad D-Pad to Mouse/Keyboard/Joypad Mapping to Arrow 3Button. Edit : Or is it Keypad 3-button? One of those two work.

                                          Can I just say how much I adore the graphics on this system? That extra resolution is just gorgeous (same for the PC88 to a lesser extent).

                                          Keypad 3-button! Perfect. Really gutted I didn't get there myself though. Great work.

                                          I think it is a good looking machine, hopefully I can make some progress in Night Slave and Rusty now. :)

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                                            Folly @AdamBeGood
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                                            @adambegood

                                            Nice to hear it works. Happy playing !

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