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      Folly @AdamBeGood
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      @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @folly Good news on Refight, I'll try that today once I've sorted out Quasi88 not being anywhere near full screen. It is just in the top left corner at the moment.

      Quasi88:
      Temporary removing the kanji roms you get the menu in english.
      select screen -> select double (-full)
      select save.cfg -> make "blue"
      exit emulator
      put back you kanji roms.
      start again
      Use NUM keys for moving.

      I think that will do the trick.
      (at least I'm running in full screen)

      adding -full to the quasi88 commandline in emulators.cfg could also be an option.

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        Zering @Folly
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        @folly So you did find a fix.
        Sounds like I'll have to get the standalone version.
        I'm pretty sure it was available on Pi 3, I wonder why it's gone now?

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          Folly @Zering
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          @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @folly So you did find a fix.
          Sounds like I'll have to get the standalone version.
          I'm pretty sure it was available on Pi 3, I wonder why it's gone now?

          I added an issue on github about Quasi88.
          The answer was :

          The standalone emulator doesn't work well on the Pi4 - that's why it is disabled on KMS platforms.
          

          So thats the reason.

          Still busy with the docs.......
          Can take a long time to get all the comments from the "push request" resolved.
          Getting around in Github with this sort of thing is not an easy task, I know now.
          But it's quite a good learning experience.

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            AdamBeGood @Folly
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            @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @folly Good news on Refight, I'll try that today once I've sorted out Quasi88 not being anywhere near full screen. It is just in the top left corner at the moment.

            Temporary removing the kanji roms you get the menu in english.
            select screen -> select double (-full)
            select save.cfg -> make "blue"
            exit emulator
            put back you kanji roms.
            start again
            Use NUM keys for moving.

            I think that will do the trick.
            (at least I'm running in full screen)

            adding -full to the quasi88 commandline in emulators.cfg could also be an option.

            Hmm, I've tried all the options now and I've tried the commandline also.

            -double
            -full
            -fullscreen
            

            The best is double - it is bigger that way but it doesn't centre. I've tried lots of RunCommand screen sizes also, but nothing makes a difference. It's bearable but annoying.

            Have you guys tried Melt Down by the same Doujin group? That doesn't control for me.

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              Folly @AdamBeGood
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              @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

              The best is double - it is bigger that way but it doesn't centre. I've tried lots of RunCommand screen sizes also, but nothing makes a difference. It's bearable but annoying.

              Quasi88:
              Much off centre ?
              Mine is a little bit.
              But as said : it seems not to work perfectly.
              Thought it's nice to fool around with it, and learn some N88 basic.
              Basic is almost like the MSX one. We can use the "files" command.
              the F* keys. etc...

              Have you guys tried Melt Down by the same Doujin group? That doesn't control for me.

              lr-quasi88:
              Use the keyboard "A key" or the "joystick Y button" for shooting.
              After shooting, the screen does sometimes a refresh, then you can play (move).
              Use 4Mhz.

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                AdamBeGood @Folly
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                @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                The best is double - it is bigger that way but it doesn't centre. I've tried lots of RunCommand screen sizes also, but nothing makes a difference. It's bearable but annoying.

                Much off centre ?
                Mine is a little bit.
                But as said : it seems not to work perfectly.
                Thought it's nice to fool around with it, and learn some N88 basic.
                Basic is almost like the MSX one. We can use the "files" command.
                the F* keys. etc...

                Have you guys tried Melt Down by the same Doujin group? That doesn't control for me.

                Use the keyboard "A key" or the "joystick Y button" for shooting.
                After shooting, the screen does sometimes a refresh, then you can play (move).
                Use 4Mhz.

                I think it is fairly off centre.. maybe it is the same as yours....

                But can you move around in Melt Down before you shoot? Or do you have to shoot and then you can move? I'll try that again later.

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                  Folly @AdamBeGood
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                  @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                  I think it is fairly off centre.. maybe it is the same as yours....

                  Quasi88:
                  Tested from the terminal, I always run from the Desktop.
                  Had to go to the settings again.
                  With only double I have black borders left and right (seems perfectly centered)
                  With double + fullscreen, I have no black borders and the screen seems to be a bit bigger (left an right) than my monitor but is centered quite good.
                  I use a normal wide screen vga monitor with a cheap hdmi to vga converter.
                  Maybe thats why I have a good screen. Or my monitor does auto centering.
                  I don't actually know.

                  But can you move around in Melt Down before you shoot? Or do you have to shoot and then you can move? I'll try that again later.

                  lr-quasi88:
                  Shoot first, otherwise you can't move !

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                    AdamBeGood @Folly
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                    @folly Ah well, I guess I will just have to deal with it. There was some issue like this on DosBox before I changed something in the config file.

                    Mine is definitely not like yours, it is very off centre really. I am annoyed it didn't work when I changed the RunCommand screen size.

                    Melt Down works on lr-quasi88, you are right. I was just trying all the movement options, left off the fire button... I think in quasi88, the fire button doesn't work either. So I tried that there, and then didn't bother trying it in lr-quasi88.

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                      Folly @AdamBeGood
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                      @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly Ah well, I guess I will just have to deal with it. There was some issue like this on DosBox before I changed something in the config file.

                      Did you ever experiment with lr-dosbox ?

                      I did, and it seems to work quite good, you know.
                      Just run .exe or make .bat files. and run this. just like a .cmd or .m3u

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                        Zering @Folly
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                        @folly I was actually wondering how to use lr-dosbox, since you can't easily use DOS launching games seems quite haphazard.

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                          AdamBeGood @Folly
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                          @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @folly Ah well, I guess I will just have to deal with it. There was some issue like this on DosBox before I changed something in the config file.

                          Did you ever experiment with lr-dosbox ?

                          I did, and it seems to work quite good, you know.
                          Just run .exe or make .bat files. and run this. just like a .cmd or .m3u

                          I've always been able to do what I wanted with dosbox, so didn't feel the need to try the libretro version.

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                            Folly @Zering
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                            @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @folly I was actually wondering how to use lr-dosbox, since you can't easily use DOS launching games seems quite haphazard.

                            lr-dosbox :
                            Here I have an example of Lemming 3 :

                            This is in directory 3D Lemmings Winterland (1995) (eXoDOS) :
                            lemmi3d -> containing the hd files (no images)
                            lm3d.cd ->directory containing just 2 nessesary files (no images)
                            lemmi3d.BAT
                            setup.BAT

                            lemmi3d.BAT :

                            mount D LM3D.CD
                            cd lemmi3d
                            L3D
                            

                            setup.BAT:

                            mount D LM3D.CD
                            cd lemmi3d
                            SETUP
                            
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                              Zering @Folly
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                              @folly So then you select the .bat files in ES and the game runs?

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                                Folly @Zering
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                                @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                @folly So then you select the .bat files in ES and the game runs?

                                Yes.

                                Above example is not the best.
                                I have a better one.

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                                  Zering @Folly
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                                  @folly If anything I'd be more interested in something like System Shock, which uses a CD.

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                                    Folly
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                                    lr-dosbox:
                                    file structure :

                                    RAYMAN.BAT
                                    cd/RAYMAN.bin
                                    cd/RAYMAN.cue
                                    RAYMAN/<harddrive files>(no image file)

                                    RAYMAN.BAT:

                                    @echo off
                                    imgmount D cd/RAYMAN.cue -t iso
                                    C:
                                    cd C:\RAYMAN
                                    rayman.exe save=C:\RAYMAN
                                    
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                                      Zering @Folly
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                                      @folly Are your bin and cue in a separate directory inside the main folder in this instance?

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                                        Folly @Zering
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                                        @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @folly Are your bin and cue in a separate directory inside the main folder in this instance?

                                        Yes
                                        And hd files are also in a seperate RAYMAN directory.

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                                          Zering @Folly
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                                          @folly So essentially you're putting the commands in the .bat file you'd normally input into DOS?

                                          So if I created a blood.bat file it would be :

                                          cd blood
                                          blood.exe

                                          Right?

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                                            Folly @Zering
                                            last edited by Folly

                                            @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @folly So essentially you're putting the commands in the .bat file you'd normally input into DOS?

                                            So if I created a blood.bat file it would be :

                                            cd blood
                                            blood.exe

                                            Right?

                                            Yes that should work.
                                            You can remove .exe

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