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      AdamBeGood @Zering
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      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @adambegood And me. But I can't which is very frustrating ^^

      Having said that I started Dark Forces tonight, having finally figured out I could simply edit the controls using SETUP.EXE. It's really really good, the objective based mission structure and the Doom-like graphics make it really unique.

      Another game I had when it was first out (well on "White Label", which was a budget range, so not when it first came out) and didn't finish.

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        Zering @AdamBeGood
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        @adambegood What did you think of it then?

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          AdamBeGood @Zering
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          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @adambegood What did you think of it then?

          I think I thought it was okay, but a little bit clunky even then maybe. I think by the time it came out on budget, games had mouse-look. So it felt a bit anachronistic even then! I was playing Quake.

          I'm having a mad moment, I have a game on PC-88 (Scottie Turbo) which has F7 as fire. Obvious choice. How do I map that to my joypad? That key isn't there as an option on Libretro as far as I can tell, but I may be being stupid.

          Edit: Thinking about it, I played Dark Forces II a lot more. My friend had that. Multi-player over modem with mutual friends was fun.

          One of the games that same friend had that I didn't was Settlers II, which I've put on my Pi today.

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            Zering @AdamBeGood
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            @adambegood You're not the only one struggling with that game ^^

            [link text](

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              AdamBeGood @Zering
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              @zering Does F7 not work for you so far as firing goes?

              Edit: Oh, I see it is someone else's video... I think I have the control okay now, it is just mapping it to a pad.

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                Folly @AdamBeGood
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                @adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @zering Does F7 not work for you so far as firing goes?

                Edit: Oh, I see it is someone else's video... I think I have the control okay now, it is just mapping it to a pad.

                Did you both also managed to map the F7 ?

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                  Zering @Folly
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                  @folly I haven't tested yet. Busy busy day for me. I'll let you know once I do.

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                    AdamBeGood @Folly
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                    @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @zering Does F7 not work for you so far as firing goes?

                    Edit: Oh, I see it is someone else's video... I think I have the control okay now, it is just mapping it to a pad.

                    Did you both also managed to map the F7 ?

                    Nope.. how do I do it? Aren't the variables I enter in the input section the key that I want to press, not the key that I want that press to represent? And I can't see F7 as an option.

                    I do really wonder if I am being thick here.

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                      Folly
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                      I was curious too if I could make it work.
                      I remembered this thread :
                      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/26220/keyboard-mapping-to-gamepad-for-msx-msx2/3
                      But I don't actually understand what he did, to make that working.
                      So could not get it working also.

                      Did find a solution for myself.
                      This works only in X-windows (Desktop enviroment)
                      I installed -> qjoypad.
                      With this program you can easily map keys to the joystick, and this works perfect.
                      You can make a config file for each game.
                      If you press update it will store the setting.

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                        Folly
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                        @Zering

                        Tried that "star wars" you mentioned.
                        Works good, it's a doom alike game.

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                          AdamBeGood @Folly
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                          @folly I guess I'll be using the keyboard for the moment then! That is okay though, it's not the end of the World. Seems strange that you can't map all keyboard keys to gamepad buttons through libretro cores though.

                          I bet there is a way out there somewhere.

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                            Folly @AdamBeGood
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                            @adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @folly I guess I'll be using the keyboard for the moment then! That is okay though, it's not the end of the World. Seems strange that you can't map all keyboard keys to gamepad buttons through libretro cores though.

                            I bet there is a way out there somewhere.

                            Yes indeed no problem for only that game.

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                              AdamBeGood @Folly
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                              @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @folly I guess I'll be using the keyboard for the moment then! That is okay though, it's not the end of the World. Seems strange that you can't map all keyboard keys to gamepad buttons through libretro cores though.

                              I bet there is a way out there somewhere.

                              Yes indeed no problem for only that game.

                              Your link was a good one - if you change the Controller to RetroKeyboard, then you can just map the keys you want and save a game-specific configuration and everything works fine. That is working perfectly now. F7 and Enter are the only keys mapped to my joypad as they are the only ones needed.

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                                Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                @adambegood There likely would not have been more than two buttons on any pad compatible with the PC88 anyhow.

                                Edit : Tried your fix, it works. Seem like a decent game too. I didn't any power ups though, which is a shame. And what is it with NEC PC games and random hentai stuff between missions? ^^

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                                  Folly
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                                  @AdamBeGood @Zering

                                  indeed the link was the solution.

                                  Cool, Got it working too.
                                  Now I know kinda how this works.
                                  It's not really obvious.
                                  Nice that we have figured this out too.

                                  We need to make a good doc of this !
                                  It's also cool to use this with MSX :)

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                                    Zering @Folly
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                                    @folly It doesn't work for me on bluemsx sadly.

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                                      Folly @Zering
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                                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @folly It doesn't work for me on bluemsx sadly.

                                      Will try now too

                                      Some keys are not working at the moment : "#" "$"
                                      But "a-z" "1-0" "space" "enter" "F5" and ";" do
                                      The special keys work too, if you configure 1 button to "shift" and another to "1".
                                      By pressing both you get "!"

                                      it works !!!

                                      Are you configuring in the right place ?

                                      press F1 then go directly to controls
                                      select retrokeyboard
                                      go back
                                      go forward
                                      then you can change settings

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                                        Zering @Folly
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                                        @folly You're right, it does work. I'll edit the first post.

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                                          Folly @Zering
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                                          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @folly You're right, it does work. I'll edit the first post.

                                          Most credits go to @retropieuser555 for discovering this.

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                                            Zering @Folly
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                                            @folly I'll make sure to mention it.

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