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      Zering @Folly
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      @folly I used lr-mess, added an lr-mess in configs/x1/emulators.cfg, placed the four x1 bios in my bios, roms and x1 directories and ran mess 0.151 software list roms in a .zip.
      I'll find my last post and edit.

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        Zering @Zering
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        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @folly Thanks. It's going to take a while. And I'll need to find some games to recommend for some of those more obscure systems ^^

        Edit : Tried running X1 through MESS again. Got unexpected results.

        I used Xanadu as an example as I'm mostly keen to try and get some multi-disk games started. The core starts but the game doesn't. I'm booted back to ES after a few seconds.

        The log is strange :

        log

        Here is the part I think is at the source of the issue :

        [libretro INFO] Starting game from command line:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/x1/xanadu.zip
        [libretro INFO] ARGUV[0]=/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/x1/xanadu.zip
        [libretro WARN] Driver xanadu not found -1
        [libretro WARN] Game not found: xanadu
        [libretro INFO] Game name: x1, Game description: X1 (CZ-800C)
        [libretro INFO] Game name: x1, Game description: X1 (CZ-800C)
        [libretro INFO] System found: x1
        
        "xanadu" approximately matches the following
        supported software items (best match first):
        
        

        It's like lr-mess isn't finding the software at all. Yet when I look at my x1_flop hash :

        <software name="xanadu">
        		<description>Xanadu</description>
        		<year>1985</year>
        		<publisher>日本ファルコム (Nihon Falcom)</publisher>
        		<info name="release" value="198511xx"/>
        		<info name="alt_title" value="ザナドゥ"/>
        		<part name="flop1" interface="floppy_5_25">
        			<dataarea name="flop" size="415840">
        				<rom name="xanadu_a.d88" size="415840" crc="89ff1612" sha1="a1e9abfde29f169841a6e77267cf85f1a69475cd" offset="0" />
        			</dataarea>
        		</part>
        		<part name="flop2" interface="floppy_5_25">
        			<dataarea name="flop" size="415840">
        				<rom name="xanadu_b.d88" size="415840" crc="40bf59ac" sha1="3586dee49739d72ffe827435bf8fa3211d0b5cca" offset="0" />
        			</dataarea>
        		</part>
        		<part name="flop3" interface="floppy_5_25">
        			<dataarea name="flop" size="416384">
        				<rom name="xanadu_c(user).d88" size="416384" crc="e3d2cff7" sha1="bc2bb8b7a145462b5233e353f500d9be1f5397f8" offset="0" />
        			</dataarea>
        		</part>
        	</software>
        

        There are some notes at the beginning of the hash file concerning compatibility, but nothing about Xanadu.

        Games I haven't managed to start (possibly due to my mistakes):
        * zeliard: at the end of the intro it prints "read EMM address [00]" while waiting for something
        * suikoden, sangoku2, sangoku2a, nobuseng: sits to a jpn message waiting for who knows what
        * revolty2: waits for something to happen
        * reviver: waits for something to happen
        * mule, mulea: waits for something to happen
        * mugen2: waits for something to happen
        * lastarma: sits forever at the first intro screen
        * lagrange, dside: incomplete dump, needs system disc?
        * hajafuin: waits for something to happen
        * gatlabyr: how to start a game?
        * gambler2: how to pass the first menu?
        * crimson, crimsona: which disk combination is expected?
        * blassty: stuck at no animation menu
        
        Games with possible issues (either in emulation or in dump):
        * wizardry->4: can't add character name. also how to create a duplicate disk (in pc8801 they were in the disk set)?
        * profmj: true 400 lines mode not implemented?
        * mightmag: corrupted chars
        * lizard: waits for something to happen
        * hydlide2b has no saved data, while hydlide2 &amp; hydlide2a have characters in them
        * hydlide3b: fails to see the user disk + the set contains at least 1 hydlide disk (check crc16)
        * gruppe: starts loading then errors out as if the disk is not recognized
        * gradiusk: is this supposed to do something?
        * frontlin: input issue?
        * dione: does not display text correctly
        * blckonyx: is it missing a data disk?
        * bastard: does not start. input issue?
        * arcus: black screen after wolfteam logo
        * aokiooka: glitches (chars cut in half)
        * alpha: is the title screen correct or is it glitched (I'd bet the latter)?
        * advfant: glitches
        * ys: character sprite is glitched until you enter a new area
        
        Games which start loading but never reach the program:
        * vipc
        * vipd
        * turbobas (but not the clone turbobasa)
        * turbzbas
        * scruiser
        * psyoblad
        * powermj
        * kingkngt
        * jesus
        * jesusd
        * hydlide3, hydlide3a (invalid disks 2?)
        * aztec
        * ys3
        
        Games which are completely not recognized (maybe not for x1?)
        * unk_fl1
        * srdemo
        * robowres
        * punchbal
        * manilove
        * fmdata
        

        This thing has me stumped. Maybe one of you computer whizzes can figure it out.

        Here @Folly

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          Folly @Zering
          last edited by Folly

          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @folly I used lr-mess, added an lr-mess in configs/x1/emulators.cfg, placed the four x1 bios in my bios, roms and x1 directories and ran mess 0.151 software list roms in a .zip.
          I'll find my last post and edit.

          I am almost certain that doesn't work because after sept 2020 there was an update of lr-mess and my script for CDI didn't work anymore. It gave initializing. This was the old way of running things with lr-mess. Just like you do with "x1". We still don't actually know why it doesn't work anymore. And whats also a problem, of the old way, it uses a softlists. A database with filenames that only run if they are exactly the same. I see that in your logs.

          To get it working we have to make a valarino alike script. Just what i did with P2000T.

          It's very easy. I think I can edit one, because it's not on valerino's github.
          So he didn't make this system.
          Then we can try again.

          EDIT : you can remove your logs, if you like.

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            Zering @Folly
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            @folly How do you make a script like that?

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              Folly @Zering
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              @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

              @folly How do you make a script like that?

              Do you want to do it yourself ?
              It's very easy !

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                Zering @Folly
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                @folly I don't mind giving it a try if you explain to me how to do it.

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                  Folly @Zering
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                  @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                  @folly I don't mind giving it a try if you explain to me how to do it.

                  goto :
                  /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/libretrocores
                  copy lr-mess-cdi.sh to lr-mess-x1.sh

                  replace all entry :

                  lr-mess-cdi
                  

                  with

                  lr-mess-x1
                  

                  Not, necessary, but you can remove the help :

                  rp_module_help=""
                  

                  change this :

                  rp_module_name="Sharp x1"
                  rp_module_ext=".2d .d77 .d88 .1dd .dfi .hfe .imd .ipf .mfi .mfm .td0 .cqm .cqi .dsk"
                  

                  change:

                  local _system="cdimono1"
                  

                  into

                  local _system="x1"
                  

                  change :

                  -cdrm
                  

                  into

                  -flop1
                  
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                    Zering @Folly
                    last edited by Zering

                    @folly Well there's a first issue. The scriptmodules directory isn't there ^^

                    Edit : Never mind, I found it. Trying now.

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                      Folly @Zering
                      last edited by Folly

                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly Well there's a first issue. The scriptmodules directory isn't there ^^

                      Where is you RetroPie-Setup directory ?

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                        Zering @Folly
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                        @folly I found it, for some reason the scriptmodules directory wasn't visible.

                        Anyway I'm editing it and I'm wondering what to do about this :

                        rp_module_id="lr-mess-x1"
                        rp_module_name="Sharp X1"
                        rp_module_ext=".2d .d77 .d88 .1dd .dfi .hfe .imd .ipf .mfi .mfm .td0 .cqm .cqi .dsk"
                        rp_module_desc="MESS emulator ($rp_module_name) - MESS Port for libretro"
                        rp_module_help="ROM Extensions: $rp_module_ext\n\n
                        Put games in:\n
                        $romdir/x1\n\n
                        Put BIOS files in $biosdir:\n
                        cdimono1.zip\n\n
                        Convert .cue/.bin to .chd:\n
                        https://forums.launchbox-app.com/files/file/804-philips-cd-i-to-chd-batch-converter/ (windows only)"

                        Specifically the lines after the BIOS.

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                          Folly @Zering
                          last edited by Folly

                          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @folly I found it, for some reason the scriptmodules directory wasn't visible.

                          Anyway I'm editing it and I'm wondering what to do about this :

                          rp_module_id="lr-mess-x1"
                          rp_module_name="Sharp X1"
                          rp_module_ext=".2d .d77 .d88 .1dd .dfi .hfe .imd .ipf .mfi .mfm .td0 .cqm .cqi .dsk"
                          rp_module_desc="MESS emulator ($rp_module_name) - MESS Port for libretro"
                          rp_module_help="ROM Extensions: $rp_module_ext\n\n
                          Put games in:\n
                          $romdir/x1\n\n
                          Put BIOS files in $biosdir:\n
                          cdimono1.zip\n\n
                          Convert .cue/.bin to .chd:\n
                          https://forums.launchbox-app.com/files/file/804-philips-cd-i-to-chd-batch-converter/ (windows only)"

                          Specifically the lines after the BIOS.

                          Just edited my post, you can remove the help totally, this can be removed :

                          ROM Extensions: $rp_module_ext\n\n
                          Put games in:\n
                          $romdir/x1\n\n
                          Put BIOS files in $biosdir:\n
                          cdimono1.zip\n\n
                          Convert .cue/.bin to .chd:\n
                          https://forums.launchbox-app.com/files/file/804-philips-cd-i-to-chd-batch-converter/ (windows only)

                          Now we can try to install !

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                            Zering @Folly
                            last edited by Zering

                            @folly Okay then I'm trying an install now!

                            Edit : It works! I'm testing Xanadu now.

                            There are some sound issues though, I'll keep testing.

                            Edit 2 : Tested a few games. They seem to run full speed. Disk control is easy through 'File manager'. It even lets you pick discs that are inside a zip. Still no luck with Revolty II but I still haven't tried the Neo Kobe rom.
                            However the sound is a deal breaker. There's a constant loud click. Are you having the same experience?

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                              Folly @Zering
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                              @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @folly Okay then I'm trying an install now!

                              Edit : It works! I'm testing Xanadu now.

                              There are some sound issues though, I'll keep testing.

                              Had to find the good bios.
                              I have it working too.

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                                Zering @Folly
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                                @folly How's your sound?

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                                  Folly @Zering
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                                  @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @folly How's your sound?

                                  oeps wrong computer !

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                                    Folly @Folly
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                                    @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                    @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                    @folly How's your sound?

                                    oeps wrong computer !

                                    Tried galaga.
                                    Sounds really good and I have stereo !

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                                      Zering @Folly
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                                      @folly Could my sound issues be caused by an error in my script?

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                                        Folly @Zering
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                                        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @folly Could my sound issues be caused by an error in my script?

                                        No

                                        Which rom did you tried ?

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                                          Zering @Folly
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                                          @folly Xanadu and Galaga mainly, all with the same sound issue.
                                          Other than that I think this might be the best way to play those games. I think it may even be possible to play zipped Neo Kobe roms, eliminating the amount of clutter in ES.

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                                            Folly @Zering
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                                            @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @folly Xanadu and Galaga mainly, all with the same sound issue.
                                            Other than that I think this might be the best way to play those games. I think it may even be possible to play zipped Neo Kobe roms, eliminating the amount of clutter in ES.

                                            I tried Balloon Fight, it took quite long to boot.
                                            I was almost thinking it crashed.
                                            But it runs good with good sound !

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