Old Computer Appreciation Thread

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly I also feel like games were somewhat more complex than on 8-bit consoles, and vastly different. At least on MSX2, I can't speak for the rest.

You mean on other 8 bit computers.
MSX was 8 bit too.

I imagine Metal Gear was a pretty solid reason for owning an MSX too ^^

indeed, But metal gear came much later, I think.

Zering

@folly No I mean 8-bit consoles. But I might be wrong, I'm no video game historian and the 8-bit era isn't my specialty. It just seems to me that before the Famicom and the Master System really hit their strides, you wound up with really complex games for their time on the MSX and PC88, like Wibarm, Thexder or Silpheed. Not to mention Xanadu and the other Dragon Slayer games, a couple of years before Zelda or Ys.

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly No I mean 8-bit consoles. But I might be wrong, I'm no video game historian and the 8-bit era isn't my specialty. It just seems to me that before the Famicom and the Master System really hit their strides, you wound up with really complex games for their time on the MSX and PC88, like Wibarm, Thexder or Silpheed. Not to mention Xanadu and the other Dragon Slayer games, a couple of years before Zelda or Ys.

Indeed I get it.

installed the scripts for mz700, fm7 now.
Is fm7 the same as fm77av ?
That mz2500 is that a generated script of my script you installed ?
Can't find the original.

Zering

@folly Fm77av is a better model of FM7, but there's some games that will only run on FM77AV.
I used one of your generated scripts for MZ2500, but I'd set it up through regular mess last month.
Also I suggest you use floppies for FM7, cassettes are painful.

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly Fm77av is a better model of FM7, but there's some games that will only run on FM77AV.
I used one of your generated scripts for MZ2500.
Also I suggest you use floppies for FM7, cassettes are painful.

So I install the fm7 and the I can select the AV type ?

Zering

@folly No I think you need to install both models.

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly No I think you need to install both models.

I use my fm77av.
There doesn't seem to be an original valarino.

Zering

@folly There isn't. He only did fm7-flop and fm7-cass.
I think your scripts are good enough to use, and if they're not, once everything is in place it's just a matter of adding lr-mess to the emulators.cfg for any given system.

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly There isn't. He only did fm7-flop and fm7-cass.
I think your scripts are good enough to use, and if they're not, once everything is in place it's just a matter of adding lr-mess to the emulators.cfg for any given system.

ok do mine

Zering

@folly I'm honestly still impressed at how quickly you pulled the whole thing together too!

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly I'm honestly still impressed at how quickly you pulled the whole thing together too!

Did it in about 6 hours.

I calculated the amount of time it would take if you do all this manually for each script. I think every script takes about 30 minutes.
So thats more than 1000 hours.
Thats about working 80 days, 12 hours a day ;-)

Really amazing work.

Zering

@folly And now you've made it so we can build the script modules in six minutes, dump a mess 0.151 bios pack in ten and build the cores in an hour. Thanks for saving me days of my life ^^

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly And now you've made it so we can build the script modules in six minutes, dump a mess 0.151 bios pack in ten and build the cores in an hour. Thanks for saving me days of my life ^^

Your welcome.

It also saves a lot of my time too.
Perhaps I can make even greater stuff, who knows.

Zering

@folly Do I sense that you have a new idea? ^^

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly Do I sense that you have a new idea? ^^

The multi-disk problem would be nice to fix.
Don't have a really good idea about that now.

mz700, fm7 and fm77av boot with a dummy file.
mz2500 doesn't boot.

Something for tomorrow.

Zering

@folly What type of files are you using? I use mess zips as much as possible.
Mz2500 definitely booted on my end with your script, except Ys 3 (I suspect your lr-mess-mz2500 mounts the discs differently), if I can get it to work so can you! ^^

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly What type of files are you using? I use mess zips as much as possible.
Mz2500 definitely booted on my end with your script, except Ys 3 (I suspect your lr-mess-mz2500 mounts the discs differently), if I can get it to work so can you! ^^

0.151 version with 7 files inside

Zering

@folly I meant for the games. 7 games for a mess mz2500 set sounds way off.

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly I meant for the games. 7 games for a mess mz2500 set sounds way off.

no games yet.
have to search.

Folly

@Zering @AdamBeGood

No games yet for mz2500. (seem very hard to find !)
But with the command without any media it boots.
So just have to find the right disk files.

The others work. I found some games.
Seems my generated fm77av script looks for -cass, changed manually into -flop1 in emulators.cfg
(This issue was expected, perhaps I can pull it off in version 2 of my script using also second and third lines, so I can make one for cass and one for flop1)
Could play this OOB (nice one)(Fireball (1987)(Humming Bird Soft)) :

FM-7 (still have to do the controlls)( 1942 (1987)(ASCII)(JP))and(Castle, The (1985)(ASCII)(JP)):

MZ-700 (3D-Way Out (19xx)(BBG Software)) (looks like one of the first dooms ;-):