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      comet424 @comet424
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      something else seems to be wrong??
      used to boot up fast

      now when i reboot or start up it hangs as the Emulation page.. saying Loading config files

      it hangs for a couple mins before loading up
      whats gone on?

      i did run sudo ~/RetroPie-Setup/retropie_setup.sh
      from a ssh in figured running update of all fix it but didnt help

      what causes it to load so slow now? used to be lighting fast... and transfering to the SSD is slow i shuld be getting 80-120mbs but i only get 20 megs sec copying... i know i had another page a while ago i did a manual edit instead of auto mount not sure if that matters also cant find my old post

      as this is the 2nd nintendo retropie i built for someone else and its just not working right cant cant remember what i did last time.. but ya seems to be hanging at loading config files and slow copy transfers over the network

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        mitu Global Moderator @comet424
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        If you're using the NesPi 4 case, then it's probably this.

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          comet424 @mitu
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          @mitu oh ok ya i remember that from someone posted in my last post i had issues earlier this year and since i doing 2nd one i have forgotten and couldnt find it.. and was also to do Manual mount instead of Automount as i found auto mounting unmounts the drive from this case..

          ill do that and see if that fixes the speed and the loading config files at emulation i only noticed now because i have had it left on all this time but i was just rebooting it today and noticed it was not booting up fast anymore and then i did the update of retropie figure it was that... ill re due this one and try to find the manual mount too as i remember automount doesnt like it with this case if you do a reboot it will unmount the drive i noticed.. i guess its the usb to sata device the firmware in it or the chip that cause the issues i take it

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            comet424 @mitu
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            @mitu im remember again
            that trick doesnt work for the nespi 4 case
            i remember it didnt work with the other one either..
            as

            pi@retropie:~ $ sudo dmesg -C
            pi@retropie:~ $ sudo dmesg -C
            pi@retropie:~ $ dmesg
            pi@retropie:~ $
            

            it does nothing it doesnt display.. but the tricks that were done before fixed it i still cant find my old post like 6 months ago..
            it doesnt display the log ..

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              comet424 @comet424
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              @mitu so i found my old post and was trying some of the commands but it isnt working the same now

              then i made sure only 1 partition and fat32

              i ran
              ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/

              and got my uuid
              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 12 23:25 4A099D4A0F439B23 -> ../../sda1
              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 12 23:25 8988cf8f-d459-476f-9a4a-16c56702dc40 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 12 23:25 C367-3F28 -> ../../mmcblk0p1

              so i edited the fstab and added for the sda1

              UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0

              i chose that as that showed for Fat32 file system from
              https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Running-ROMs-from-a-USB-drive/

              i rebooted and the root account is locked it says it wont boot up and i cant ssh in.. the other post the dmesg worked after using the tail command but this one isnt working
              its also in emergency mode.. i tried pulling usb out and rebooting but still console is locked

              like
              dmesg | grep usb-storage
              is not working

              so how do i fix or isa format to fix this issue?

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                mitu Global Moderator @comet424
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                @comet424 The root account does not have a password by default, so it's 'locked'. You can use sudo with the pi account and perform admin tasks.

                UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0

                the line is incomplete, it should have another number at the end.

                If you've booted in emergency mode because of a bad /etc/fstab, then you should boot in 'safe' mode by modifying /boot/cmdline.txt and adding init=/bin/sh at the end of the line present in the file. This should boot you to a root command line, where you can mount the root partition and repair the /etc/fstab file.

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                  comet424 @mitu
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                  @mitu i thought i added the 2 after the last 0 from the linw now i cant remember

                  and i cant modify nothing raspberry pi booted into emgency mode on itself.. then talks about using jorurnal program

                  says root console acccess been locked..

                  tells you to look at slulogin(8)
                  tells me press enter
                  reloading system manager configuration
                  starting default target

                  then just repeats the above cant get into anything

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                  • mituM
                    mitu Global Moderator
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                    Assuming the problem is caused only by the erroneous /etc/fstab entry, you can try fixing it by modifying the file on the Linux partition on the sdcard from a separate Linux system (if you have one) or maybe from Windows (using the Paragon Ext4 driver).

                    If that doesn't work, maybe re-install from scratch.

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                      comet424 @mitu
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                      @mitu ah ok
                      so i used my usb parted Magic program
                      edited the fstab file so ya i was missing that last 2

                      so it booted and got back in had bunch of fails and RF kill switch failed multiple times
                      but it booted up

                      i also remmed out the UUID and rebooted also pulled the ssd still gave errors
                      i ssh'd in and ran the retropi_setup and did the update it couldnt told me fetch_head is read only mode

                      its amazing how just forgettng that 2 changes it mess's this up

                      so what did that last 2 do???

                      and guess the whole thing is in read only... so i gonna do fresh install and try the manual mount...
                      and try the uuid line again and add that 2 i didnt see

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                        mitu Global Moderator @comet424
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                        @comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

                        so what did that last 2 do???

                        man fstab

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                          comet424 @mitu
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                          @mitu so the man fstab means manual add file system? for the 2

                          so i tried again
                          UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0 2

                          added the extra 2... and yet again it corrupted soo many failed com errors etc
                          and then when i remmed it out using Parted Magic again it wouldnt boot up

                          so i cant see what difference from my older post i had ntfs and 1tb drive but this is 250gb set for Fat32
                          the commands in old post
                          https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/27809/ssd-doesnt-always-mount/29?_=1607815702974
                          dont seem to be working some are

                          so should i keep the File system fat32? i have retropie-mount folder on the SSD
                          what should the manual fstab be since i redownloading retropie iso to the SD card

                          should it be this
                          /home/pi/RetroPie vfat nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2

                          not the
                          /home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0 2

                          i did the 2nd one for getting maybe MSDos programs to run as i cant seem to get my Command and Conqurer to run on dosbox figured the option for the execuatble will fix it

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                            mitu Global Moderator @comet424
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                            @comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

                            so i tried again
                            UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0 2
                            added the extra 2... and yet again it corrupted soo many failed com errors etc
                            and then when i remmed it out using Parted Magic again it wouldnt boot up

                            Are you sure the UUID is correct for your external disc ? Post the complete /etc/fstab.

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                              comet424 @comet424
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                              @mitu
                              i seem to be having major issues trying to mount manually with the 250GB WD Blue drive i didn have this issue with the 1TB but i dont have that setup here i know the dmesg command didnt work right for it and doesnt work that well here

                              but for this 250GB SSD setup this is my setup
                              SSD formated Fat32
                              folder retropie-mount <all roms under it>

                              i install retropie
                              <boots up and it fails the usb@.... mount> i forget what it says rest go Green "OK"
                              i configure joypad
                              i install dosbox and vice
                              i add SSH
                              i add the samba

                              i ssh in
                              and run

                              pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
                              total 0
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 15:03 4A099D4A0F439B23 -> ../../sda1
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 15:03 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 15:03 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
                              

                              i then

                              cd /etc
                              sudo nano fstab
                              
                              
                              proc            /proc           proc    defaults          0       0
                              PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-01  /boot           vfat    defaults          0       2
                              PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-02  /               ext4    defaults,noatime  0       1
                              # a swapfile is not a swap partition, no line here
                              #   use  dphys-swapfile swap[on|off]  for that
                              UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23   /home/pi/RetroPie       vfat    nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi       0       2
                              

                              i chose the other one this time not that exec it seems to mess it up totally

                              then i save
                              then i did the run raspi-config and goto configurartions and disble the usb mount service
                              and reboot.. it boots up but still slow.. and now i cant remember while typing this if it mounted the roms i dont think so i think only mounted priper me editig the fstab..

                              this last time i did from the manual mount documentation

                              sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/
                              

                              i then run the raspi config and goto configurations and disable the usb mount service
                              i then rebooted
                              it still fails the "usb@mount... whatever it says" but i turned off automount
                              when it boots up it tells me there is no emulation goto the website and goes to the command prompt

                              is this because i formated in fat32? when i did the other setup it was a NFTS but i remember you guys saying and documentation Fat32 is better.. but is fat32 the issue with Western Digital? i havent had this much problems before and this time i was trying to do it the proper way Fat32 but been having issues is it WD on the black list? and maybe i need to format NTFS and i forget when you manualy mount usb do you scrap the retropie-mount folder and just post everything in the root of the drive

                              just cant figure whats going on..

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                                mitu Global Moderator
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                                I don't think FAT32 vs. NTFS is the issue. Both should work as well, FAT32 being better supported by Linux natively at this time.

                                i then run the raspi config and goto configurations and disable the usb mount service

                                The usbromservice is not configured in raspi-config, it's a RetroPie addition, did you disable it from RetroPie-Setup ?

                                i then rebooted
                                it still fails the "usb@mount... whatever it says" but i turned off automount

                                when it boots up it tells me there is no emulation goto the website and goes to the command prompt

                                Run mount and post the output - is the disk mounted on /home/pi/RetroPie ?

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                                  comet424 @mitu
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                                  @mitu sorry with my dislexia i forget .. and betwween raspiconfig and the retrosetup i mix them up

                                  and thats what i ment when i mentioned i disabled usb mount service under raspi confg i ment i disabled it under the retrosetup and then i rebooted
                                  what fails is the

                                  usbmount@dev... something something

                                  and then posts
                                  so with the error shows there is no system
                                  check that your paths are correct in the systems
                                  configuration file, and your game directory has at least
                                  one game with the correct extensions

                                  visit emulationstartion.org

                                  thats what i got after i did the mv in the documentation i posted
                                  as for the disk mounted i not sure but here is the output

                                  pi@retropie:~ $ mount
                                  /dev/mmcblk0p2 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime)
                                  devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=1801484k,nr_inodes=97927,mode=755)
                                  sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
                                  proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
                                  securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
                                  tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
                                  devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
                                  tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755)
                                  tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
                                  tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
                                  cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd)
                                  none on /sys/fs/bpf type bpf (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=700)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
                                  cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
                                  systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=30,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct)
                                  sunrpc on /run/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw,relatime)
                                  mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
                                  debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
                                  configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,relatime)
                                  /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /boot type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
                                  tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=386716k,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000)
                                  pi@retropie:~ $
                                  
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                                    mitu Global Moderator
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                                    The mount output doesn't show the external disc being mounted, that's why EmulationStation doesn't start - the ROM folders are not present.

                                    If you run mount -a from the command line, what's the output ? Do you get an error from the system while trying to mount the external disc ?

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                                      comet424 @mitu
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                                      @mitu
                                      wonder where the mount files went to then?
                                      the emulationstation error had come up after i typed

                                      sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/
                                      

                                      as i was following the manual steps
                                      so i dunno where files are unless i guess plug into the computer?

                                      as for the mount error

                                      pi@retropie:~ $ mount -a
                                      mount: only root can use "--all" option
                                      pi@retropie:~ $ mount --all
                                      mount: only root can use "--all" option
                                      pi@retropie:~ $
                                      

                                      as for the error trying to mount the external disc i dunno? i only see that error of the usb@mount when you first turn on the raspberry pi and retropie is booting up doing its {OK] checks and that one fails or when i do a reboot

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                                        comet424 @comet424
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                                        @mitu
                                        i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

                                        pi@retropie:~ $ cd /media
                                        pi@retropie:/media $ cd usb0
                                        pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
                                        BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
                                        pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $
                                        pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ cd roms
                                        pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ ls
                                        amstradcpc  atari5200  atarilynx  gamegear  gbc            mastersystem  neogeo  ngpc      sega32x  snes
                                        arcade      atari7800  fba        gb        genesis        megadrive     nes     pcengine  segacd   vectrex
                                        atari2600   atari800   fds        gba       mame-libretro  n64           ngp     psx       sg-1000  zxspectrum
                                        pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $
                                        
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                                          mitu Global Moderator @comet424
                                          last edited by mitu

                                          @comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

                                          pi@retropie:~ $ mount -a
                                          mount: only root can use "--all" option

                                          You need to use sudo before the command, forgot about that.

                                          so i dunno where files are unless i guess plug into the computer?

                                          In /media/usb0, where you moved them.

                                          i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

                                          You already moved the files, but /media/usb0 should be the mountpoint for your USB drive. retropie-mount is the location when you're using the automatic method, you say you're using the manual method and you've disabled the usbromservice module.

                                          Did you mount the USB drive - to /media/usb0 - before moving the files from /home/pi/RetroPie ? Otherwise, even if the USB disc would work with your /etc/fstab, the drive would be empty.

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                                            comet424 @comet424
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                                            @mitu
                                            so drive must be mounted since i can see it right??

                                            mc wouldnt let me make a folder and i think its because its really on the drive but you cant see it?

                                            pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ cd ..
                                            pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir retropie-mount
                                            mkdir: cannot create directory ‘retropie-mount’: Permission denied
                                            pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
                                            BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
                                            pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir test
                                            mkdir: cannot create directory ‘test’: Permission denied
                                            pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ df
                                            Filesystem     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
                                            /dev/root       30368644 2874152  26218904  10% /
                                            devtmpfs         1801484       0   1801484   0% /dev
                                            tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /dev/shm
                                            tmpfs            1933580    9600   1923980   1% /run
                                            tmpfs               5120       4      5116   1% /run/lock
                                            tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
                                            /dev/mmcblk0p1    261868   55708    206160  22% /boot
                                            tmpfs             386716       0    386716   0% /run/user/1000
                                            pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $
                                            

                                            or its only kinda mounted? as i cant make a directory test but the usb0 is there but the df shows no

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