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      comet424 @comet424
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      @mitu
      i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

      pi@retropie:~ $ cd /media
      pi@retropie:/media $ cd usb0
      pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
      BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
      pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $
      pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ cd roms
      pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ ls
      amstradcpc  atari5200  atarilynx  gamegear  gbc            mastersystem  neogeo  ngpc      sega32x  snes
      arcade      atari7800  fba        gb        genesis        megadrive     nes     pcengine  segacd   vectrex
      atari2600   atari800   fds        gba       mame-libretro  n64           ngp     psx       sg-1000  zxspectrum
      pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $
      
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        mitu Global Moderator @comet424
        last edited by mitu

        @comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

        pi@retropie:~ $ mount -a
        mount: only root can use "--all" option

        You need to use sudo before the command, forgot about that.

        so i dunno where files are unless i guess plug into the computer?

        In /media/usb0, where you moved them.

        i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

        You already moved the files, but /media/usb0 should be the mountpoint for your USB drive. retropie-mount is the location when you're using the automatic method, you say you're using the manual method and you've disabled the usbromservice module.

        Did you mount the USB drive - to /media/usb0 - before moving the files from /home/pi/RetroPie ? Otherwise, even if the USB disc would work with your /etc/fstab, the drive would be empty.

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          comet424 @comet424
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          @mitu
          so drive must be mounted since i can see it right??

          mc wouldnt let me make a folder and i think its because its really on the drive but you cant see it?

          pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ cd ..
          pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir retropie-mount
          mkdir: cannot create directory ‘retropie-mount’: Permission denied
          pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
          BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
          pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir test
          mkdir: cannot create directory ‘test’: Permission denied
          pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ df
          Filesystem     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
          /dev/root       30368644 2874152  26218904  10% /
          devtmpfs         1801484       0   1801484   0% /dev
          tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /dev/shm
          tmpfs            1933580    9600   1923980   1% /run
          tmpfs               5120       4      5116   1% /run/lock
          tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
          /dev/mmcblk0p1    261868   55708    206160  22% /boot
          tmpfs             386716       0    386716   0% /run/user/1000
          pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $
          

          or its only kinda mounted? as i cant make a directory test but the usb0 is there but the df shows no

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            mitu Global Moderator
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            No, the drive is not mounted. It should show up in a line containing /dev/sda1 on the 1st column, in the df command output.

            The reason you're getting the errors for mkdir is that /media/usb0 is not writeable by the pi user (which is the default) and it's not on the external USB disc.

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              comet424 @comet424
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              @mitu
              from what i remember
              when i do the clean install of retropie
              and when it first boots up then reboots for the file system

              it fails the usbmount@dev....

              then takes 2 3 min for emulationstation to finish loading config files
              then loads up 23 emulatiors i guess.. and then my roms are loaded like nes mame
              etc

              then i cant remember i did couple different ways enabling usb and disabling etc

              but what i remember is all the roms are in retropie-mount folder on the SSD
              then i installed vice and dosbox last time i tried i didnt install samba shares

              then i edited the fstab file and added the
              UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2
              because when i did the exec rw line version thats when it really ruined it and locked me out

              then i ran
              sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/

              then i ran the retro-setup i disabled usb mount service
              and did a perform a reboot.
              and when going through the checks it still fail the usbmount@dev...
              and then says emulation is gone
              and then i get the command prompt

              so ok i ran the sudo

              pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ sudo mount -a
              mount: /home/pi/RetroPie: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
              pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $
              

              guess i really buggered it up.. didnt i

              so if the drive isnt mount then why is it showing up under usb0 as being mounted under /media/usb0
              shouldnt it not show up anything

              but ya i went into the /media/usb0/roms/nes and it shows nothing but how is it possible for a usb0 drive when its not there shouldnt it be nothing

              do i delete usb0 w folder and reboot and will that let the drive remount?

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                mitu Global Moderator @comet424
                last edited by

                pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ sudo mount -a
                mount: /home/pi/RetroPie: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.

                This looks like an un-formatted drive or - as the error says - wrong file system. Make sure the drive is properly formatted, then mount it first, before copying/moving the files from /home/pi/RetroPie/ to it.

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                  comet424 @comet424
                  last edited by

                  so i used mc
                  and i copied /media/usb0/ to /home/pi/Retropie

                  and thats brought back the retropie gui

                  just not the roms so least that part is back

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                    comet424 @mitu
                    last edited by

                    @mitu ah ok

                    well the SD card doesnt have any of the roms on it in the first place.. i only did the mv because it was one of the steps

                    then SSD should probably have 100gb of roms on it
                    it was formated to Fat32 as thats how this post orginally started

                    but i wonder if the UUID with the rw,exec and forgetting that 2 at the end correupted it then?

                    how do i check the FS on the SSD? i only really know windows

                    how do i do it in linux here

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                      comet424 @comet424
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                      i tried
                      pi@retropie:~ $ fdisk /dev/sda1

                      Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.33.1).
                      Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
                      Be careful before using the write command.

                      fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda1: Permission denied
                      pi@retropie:~ $

                      as i figured may display something... i least have my roms on the server.... i guess ill pull the hard drive and test it in windows or unraid to see if it has a file system

                      i guess that executable fstab had to do it as it really fell apart after that ill test the ssd now in windows

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                        mitu Global Moderator @comet424
                        last edited by

                        @comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

                        but i wonder if the UUID with the rw,exec and forgetting that 2 at the end correupted it then?

                        No, that would not corrupt the filesystem/disc.

                        how do i check the FS on the SSD? i only really know windows

                        Run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda and it should list the partitions on the disc. Try to mount it using the mount command and see if you can read what's on it.

                        sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat
                        

                        Check /media/usb0 for the ROM files.

                        how do i do it in linux here

                        I suggest you use the automatic mounting method, if you're not familiar with the Linux commands.

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                          comet424 @mitu
                          last edited by

                          @mitu
                          ok ill try that.

                          and reason i went with the manual mode is the slow problems Nespi4 and that it unmounts on its own when you do a reboot or emulation reboot
                          or like how emulation config files hangs for 2 min.. so had to do the manual mode

                          but i chose that exec rw version in the fstab and thats when things just gone really crazy

                          i had this issue 6 months ago with the 1TB SSD WD and i got help but i found the steps we did then didnt 100% work with the 250GB this time.. and last time was NTFS and this is fat32 so i tried to follow that then

                          but ill give those a try and see what happens..

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                            comet424 @comet424
                            last edited by

                            @mitu

                            guess the file system just corrupted.. ill pop it out and shove in windows or unraid and erase the SSD and just copy over
                            probably unraid to format it since it can do bigger where windows cant
                            ill re copy things over and ill get back to you later.. ill retry the UUID in fstab after a clean format
                            as this frustrating

                            pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
                            fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Input/output error
                            pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
                            fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda1: Input/output error
                            pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat
                            mount: /media/usb0: can't read superblock on /dev/sda1.
                            pi@retropie:~ $
                            

                            a

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                              comet424 @comet424
                              last edited by comet424

                              @mitu
                              so file system was file but i moved all the files off the ssd.. erased the partition and re formated for Fat32
                              and then moved the files back
                              i also got a new UUID number the short form one
                              but so if a rem out the UUID in Fstab and the

                              pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
                              total 0
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 20:15 9290-791F -> ../../sda1
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:15 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:15 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
                              pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount -a
                              mount: /proc: \proc already mounted or mount point busy.
                              pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
                              Disk /dev/sda1: 232.9 GiB, 250058113024 bytes, 488394752 sectors
                              Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
                              Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
                              I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
                              Disklabel type: dos
                              Disk identifier: 0x00000000
                              pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat
                              pi@retropie:~ $ mc
                              
                              
                              pi@retropie:~ $ cd /media/usb0
                              pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ cd retropie-mount
                              pi@retropie:/media/usb0/retropie-mount $ cd roms
                              pi@retropie:/media/usb0/retropie-mount/roms $
                              

                              i still get usbmount@dev-sda/server even when usb mounting is off

                              so with usb mount services enabled..
                              the SSD mounts the roms

                              when i disable the usb mount services
                              and edit the fstab it cant the roms so emulation issue

                              these commands are with USB services Off the FStab file enabled for that UUID

                              pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
                              total 0
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 20:27 9290-791F -> ../../sda1
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:27 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
                              lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:27 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
                              pi@retropie:~ $
                              
                              pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
                              Disk /dev/sda1: 232.9 GiB, 250058113024 bytes, 488394752 sectors
                              Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
                              Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
                              I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
                              Disklabel type: dos
                              Disk identifier: 0x00000000
                              pi@retropie:~ $
                              
                              pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount -a
                              mount: /proc: \proc already mounted or mount point busy.
                              pi@retropie:~ $
                              
                              pi@retropie:~ $ df
                              Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
                              /dev/root       30368644   2886112  26206944  10% /
                              devtmpfs         1801484         0   1801484   0% /dev
                              tmpfs            1933580         0   1933580   0% /dev/shm
                              tmpfs            1933580      9632   1923948   1% /run
                              tmpfs               5120         4      5116   1% /run/lock
                              tmpfs            1933580         0   1933580   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
                              /dev/mmcblk0p1    261868     55708    206160  22% /boot
                              /dev/sda1      243721336 115772748 127948588  48% /home/pi/RetroPie
                              tmpfs             386716         0    386716   0% /run/user/1000
                              pi@retropie:~ $
                              
                              pi@retropie:~ $ cd /home/pi
                              pi@retropie:~ $ ls
                              RetroPie  RetroPie-Setup
                              pi@retropie:~ $ cd RetroPie
                              pi@retropie:~/RetroPie $ ls
                              retropie-mount
                              pi@retropie:~/RetroPie $
                              
                              
                              \proc            /proc           proc    defaults          0       0
                              PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-01  /boot           vfat    defaults          0       2
                              PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-02  /               ext4    defaults,noatime  0       1
                              # a swapfile is not a swap partition, no line here
                              #   use  dphys-swapfile swap[on|off]  for that
                              UUID=9290-791F  /home/pi/RetroPie       vfat    nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi       0       2
                              

                              the roms show up fine under retropie-mount

                              but i still get the usbmount fail and i didnt try the rw,exec version for the UUID
                              but it is mounting

                              what else you need me to test.. but least i dont have that long number its a 4 characters then a dash then 4 characters

                              do i change the /home/pi/RetroPie in the fstab to /home/pi/RetroPie/retropie-mount
                              or do i move all the files out of the retromount folder to the room then on the SSD since its least mounting or least the file system is showing

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                                comet424 @comet424
                                last edited by comet424

                                so its mounting
                                with the fstab
                                UUID=9290-791F /home/pi/RetroPie vfat nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2

                                i had to move those files out of the retropie-mount and put the folders in root

                                its still failing usbmount@dev-sda service
                                and still loading config files slow as can be.. so manually mount finally works, but its is not improving speeds yet

                                but least its mounting through the fstab must been corrpted SSD file system
                                so that part is working just still no improved speed still slow and still booting up slow

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                                  comet424 @comet424
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                                  only getting average of 5m/s over the network from my 7200rpm drive to the SSD on retropie but i know when i had the 1TB 6 months ago i was getting close to 100m/s so something slowing this down still

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                                    mitu Global Moderator @comet424
                                    last edited by

                                    @comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

                                    its still failing usbmount@dev-sda service

                                    You can ignore that error, it's harmless. It means there's no partition on /dev/sda (which is normal, since the partition is on /dev/sda1).

                                    and still loading config files slow as can be.. so manually mount finally works, but its is not improving speeds yet

                                    That may be the drive's speed or the issue with the NesPI case SATA controller.

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                                      comet424 @mitu
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                                      @mitu

                                      oh ok that is frustrating all this work and all these trouble shooting and find out still cant get improvements
                                      guess its just going to be slow.. you think the sata to usb for the nespi could be upgraded
                                      the ssd i should be getting 520mb/s well least i get that in crystal mark bench marks

                                      but ya frustrating... least the issue of loosing the mount wont happen when its manually mounted

                                      and what does that exec rw the one for fstab
                                      for excecuting commands what does that allow you do to?? as i never tried it yet with this setup the way i have it right now least its finally working

                                      guess ill live with it unless the nespi comes out with firmware i guess

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                                        comet424 @mitu
                                        last edited by comet424

                                        @mitu i figured it out/ remembered for the slow speed issue

                                        for anyone with the Nespi4 enclosures you gotta add
                                        usb-storage.quirks=152d:0562:u

                                        to the /boot/cmdline.txt file adding it at the beginning..

                                        so instead of 3 min 30 seconds to load up the configuration files before it shows up the retropie screen.. now it only takes 28 seconds to sit at the loading configuaration

                                        and now i get 80meg/s instead of the 5meg/s

                                        gonna write steps in a text file the procedure so i can remember next time the orders and what to add if i format or build another one of thess

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