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      omen_peter @Impman66
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      @impman66 as @Zering said, I was indeed joking (alas I tend to have a sense of humour that is on par with the TV show You've Been Framed). However, perhaps this is another good example of things getting lost in translation it seems!

      Oh, and I'm totally with you on the 'there' vs 'their' debate!

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        Ashpool @omen_peter
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        @omen_peter said in Scrapping vs scraping:

        Oh, and I'm totally with you on the 'there' vs 'their' debate!

        Ok, totally OT, or maybe not and just 16t - but I cannot resist: what exactly is it, that is happening over here with us??? Okok, i got it... I am not a native EN speaker and I have my problems with then/than etc., but truly there/their? Don't you mean misspelings of they're/their or such? (Edit: And don't you dare to believe that I have no sense of humour/to read my words as if I felt offended :P, i simply couldn't resist %^] )

        P.S.: Maybe we can add some extra retro spice to this thread (vs. threat, another classic): Does anyone remember the time (16bit Amiga times) where the (german) community started to use the term 'looser' for people they considered to be 'losers' and became really upset if people where trying to correct/educate 'em on their misspelling?

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          Clyde
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          Like @simpleethat, I cringe a little every time people use "scrapping" for "scraping", or "scrapper" for "scraper". Aside from the very different meaning of these words, it shows how bad many people are in just repeating what they're reading somewhere, as nobody just came up with "scrap(p)ing" for collecting artwork and metadata automatically – they've read about it somewhere. And somewhere between reading und using it in their own posts, the "p" got added in their mind. 🀨

          As for their/there/they're, I can understand why people keep confusing those in writing, because English has this particular problem of countless harmonyms – words that sound the same, but are spelled differently. In this video, a young US American living in Germany explains this quite briefly and concisely.

          If the whole 6:29 minutes are too long for you, jump to
          2:50 – for some examples of inconsistant speaking and spelling, and
          4:39 – for the horror of English harmonyms πŸ˜‰

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            Zering @Clyde
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            @clyde We've got the same problem in french. It would already be a total nightmare without all the exceptions, and the exceptions to exceptions, all the dozens of words that should be spelled exactly the same but aren't - because why make it easy on anybody?

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              Clyde @Zering
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              @zering At least we (les FranΓ§ais & Germans) have the gendered articles in common, to confuse any foreigners who dare to learn our languages. πŸ˜‰

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                Zering @Clyde
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                @clyde I wonder if that's why we're historically rivals ; because we both want our languages to be the most confusing? ^^

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                  muldjord
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                  I never really had problems knowing when to use there, their or they're. In my mind there very different. Their are a couple of friends I have though, they're kids do seem to mix it up quite often.
                  But seriously, its so simple. If it where a difficult thing to get right I would understand, but it really isn't. I don't know were it comes from.

                  That almost physically hurt to write. :D

                  Joking aside, I noticed that I do actually sometimes get it wrong, writing they're instead of their. But I know it's wrong when I re-read it to verify what I've written. So it's a subconscious thing.

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                    Clyde @muldjord
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                    @muldjord said in Scrapping vs scraping:

                    Joking aside, I noticed that I do actually sometimes get it wrong, writing they're instead of their. But I know it's wrong when I re-read it to verify what I've written. So it's a subconscious thing.

                    Verifying your post before sending also seems to be a dying breed of habits. That said, Murphy's Law applies there, too. No matter how often I re-read my words, I still see some errors only after posting. πŸ₯΄

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                      simpleethat
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                      *Theiy're

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                        Clyde @simpleethat
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                        @simpleethat πŸ˜„

                        In bash-fu, it would be the{ir,re,y're}. Alas, I don't know enough about regular expressions to build one for this.

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                          muldjord @Clyde
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                          @clyde

                          That said, Murphy's Law applies there, too. No matter how often I re-read my words, I still see some errors only after posting. πŸ₯΄

                          Same here. And it also depends on the technical level of what I'm writing. I very often, on here, find that my thoughts are still bubbling on after posting, resulting in several edits until my mind is finally at ease. :D I suspect that can be quite confusing for someone who is already posting a reply to my initial post.

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                            Ashpool @muldjord
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                            @muldjord Dito...
                            As a cyberpunk GM/player (GM in times of R.Taslorians 2013/2020 settings, player since to nowadays cycle still), I am really puzzled somehow by the thoughts how a direct human/machine interface would add to this ;P

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                              gomisensei
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                              i take it for granite that people know how words and expressions work.

                              Yes, I'm being ironic...

                              this joke is just to tie me over till the next one.

                              kinda like cutting off my nose despite my face...

                              i'll stop

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                                paddydukes @gomisensei
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                                @gomisensei Bone apple tea!

                                Scrapping where I come from means getting in a fight. Or trashing something/destroying a car

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                                  Ashpool @paddydukes
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                                  @paddydukes said in Scrapping vs scraping:

                                  Scrapping where I come from means getting in a fight. Or trashing something/destroying a car

                                  Mh, So scrapping is what scavengers do whence whilst scraping their loot?

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                                    paddydukes @Ashpool
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                                    @ashpool So scrapping is what scavengers do whence scraping their loot?

                                    Scraping is what they do when scraping the loot, scraping the muck and grime off it with some kind of small knife.

                                    Scrapping is what they do when they disagree about how much loot everyone gets!

                                    Then they may decide to scrap the whole thing, scrape together some scraps and hope they never get into such a scrape again! English is fucked.

                                    Also just so ya know, whence means "from where" so it made that sentence read a bit strangely :) So like "We went to Dusseldorf, whence Kraftwerk began their domination of the world". haha you caught it :) You could say 'when', 'while' or 'whilst' there too. Again English is fucked.

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                                      Clyde
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                                      πŸ˜‰

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                                        paddydukes @Clyde
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                                        @clyde his accent is surprisingly Dutch when speaking English. The r’s for example.

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