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    Dreamcast, Atomiswave, and Naomi Performance

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    • CrushC
      Crush @Crush
      last edited by

      your rom is different than my working rom.

      Directory of Z:\naomi\+Sega Naomi\test
      
      14-Feb-21  17:57    <DIR>          .
      14-Feb-21  17:52    <DIR>          ..
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 203_203.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 213_203.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 217_203.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32             2,048 315-6146.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 315-6215.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32           130,817 315-6334.ic11
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 317-0352-exp.pic
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 317-0422-jpn.pic
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 317-0456-jpn.pic
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 317-5072-com.pic
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 317-unknown.pic
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 317_312.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 401_203.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32               128 93c46.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32               128 dimmspd.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21576e.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21576g.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21576h.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21577e.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21577g.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21577h.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21578e.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21578g.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 epr-21578h.ic27
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 fpr-23489c.ic14
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 fpr23718.ic36
      24-Dec-96  23:32         2,097,152 fpr23905.ic36
      24-Dec-96  23:32               128 main_eeprom.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32               128 sfz3ugd-default-eeprom.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 sp5001-b.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 sp5001.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32            16,384 sp5002-a.bin
      24-Dec-96  23:32               132 x76f100_eeprom.bin
                    33 File(s)     35,932,549 bytes
                     2 Dir(s)  162,295,500,800 bytes free
      
      
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      • G
        G30FF @Crush
        last edited by

        @crush Running Naomi/Atomiswave games is just like running an arcade game for MAME or FBNeo. Do not unzip the rom file itself. You should have a file called sfz3ugd.zip, and a .chd file called gdl-0002.chd. You would arrange it as follows, and then run the zip (As a warning, I do not have this particular rom to confirm, this is just as an example for a game that uses a CHD):

        dreamcast
        -sf3ugd.zip
        -sf3ugd/gdl-0002.chd

        Frameskip of 1 is usually enough for me as far as I can tell. You are usually better off with Redream for Dreamcast games over Flycast, where possible. Unfortunately the Naomi/Atomiswave games won't work in Redream, unless you use the Atomiswave to Dreamcast conversions.

        Additionally, your Naomi/Atomiswave games need to be from a MAME rom set. Other dumps will not work.

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        • CrushC
          Crush @G30FF
          last edited by Crush

          @g30ff i was replying to a post, i don't require help. but thanks.
          PS: i recommend flycast over redream.

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          • G
            G30FF @Crush
            last edited by

            @crush Sorry, my bad, I misread.

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            • DreamcastKidD
              DreamcastKid Banned @MortalWombat
              last edited by BuZz

              @mortalwombat said in Dreamcast, Atomiswave, and Naomi Performance:

              Yep, still the same "Error 01: This Game is Not Acceptable By Main Board" message (I'm assuming by "the naomi roms folder," you meant the Dreamcast folder?).
              Assuming I heard you right, I dropped a folder named " sfz3ugd" in there, containing the 109.2mb "gdl-0002.chd" file. And I'm aware that we may be getting our Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper ROMs from different sites-- neither of which we can discuss here-- but the 8.3mb "sfz3ugd.zip" file I have here, once opened (just to check if we're talking about the same ROM) produced a 36mb folder that contained:

              Oops, sorry, yeah the Dreamcast folder is the default Retropie folder for Naomi and Atomiswave roms ... which i did not like.

              So, i manually created Naomi and Atomiswave folders ages ago as i only wanted Dreamcast Console Games in the Dreamcast folder
              ... and Naomi Arcade Games in the Naomi folder.

                <system>
                  <name>naomi</name>
                  <fullname>Naomi</fullname>
                  <path>/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/naomi</path>
                  <extension>.zip .ZIP .BIN .bin</extension>
                  <command>/opt/retropie/supplementary/runcommand/runcommand.sh 0 _SYS_ naomi %ROM%</command>
                  <platform>naomi</platform>
                  <theme>naomi</theme>
                </system>
              

              Now onto file sizes ... sounds like we have a mis-match compared to my working game.

              alt text

              if i extract the sfz3ugd.zip then ... mine is not 36mb

              alt text

              Oh and the error... Error 01: This Game is Not Acceptable By Main Board

              Could be caused by a bad BIOS ... i was getting that error on some games, re-downloaded a BIOS which was a different size and that fixed the issue.

              The naomi_rem.zip was the original BIOS i was using ... and as you can see the BIOS i'm using now for Naomi (naomi.zip) is a larger file size

              alt text

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              • GreenHawk84G
                GreenHawk84 @Crush
                last edited by GreenHawk84

                @crush I just left it at default, so I think 480? The problem is more like a glitch. If I play MK Gold or NFL Blitz, there is an odd jittery graphical problem. I really have to capture it to show what I mean.

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                • GreenHawk84G
                  GreenHawk84 @Crush
                  last edited by

                  @crush do you set any settings differently in Flycast in order to get the best performance? Redream just runs better for me IMO (Pi4 4GB).

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                  • MortalWombatM
                    MortalWombat
                    last edited by

                    @dreamcastkid said in Dreamcast, Atomiswave, and Naomi Performance:

                    naomi_rem.zip

                    @DreamcastKid appreciate your reply, my apologies for my own delay in noticing/responding as I haven't been too active on here lately (and have kinda been testing out other emulators/ROMs, but this-- and that unworking sfz3ugd.zip-- has been one issue that I've been meaning to get back to on here...).

                    So just so we're on the same page and there are no questions re: the Dreamcast/Flycast BIOS to get these NAOMI games to work (BIOS being yet another variable I've had to start wrapping my mind around here lately, since a lot of the console and arcade games I've come across thus far don't seem to use them), you're implying that the "naomi_rem.zip" one you mentioned IS an older one? (and thus probably no longer in use?). Because after you mentioned it there, I went Googling for it just now, but didn't seem to come across it.

                    I guess another thing I'm trying to understand is that a lot of these other emulators already seem to have their own designated folders where their BIOS files seem to go (and have recently started experimenting w/ the FDS/Famicon Disk System and ITS BIOS, which itself doesn't seem to have a designated folder for BIOS; so I wasn't quite sure if I was safe just dumping BIOS files-- like these Dreamcast ones, whatever the current/best one is-- in the general "BIOS" folder if there wasn't already a specified folder to file 'em in.

                    But yeah, this sfz3ugd.zip ROM I have is 95 MB unzipped (not sure if I missed how many MBs you said yours was?), with a 109.2mb chd file, annnnnd I just found/am currently DL'ing another chd file that seems to be 159mb... so again, part of the confusion is whether I have the right ROM/CHD combo.

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                    • CrushC
                      Crush
                      last edited by

                      @mortalwombat DreamcastKid is no longer a member of this forum.

                      @GreenHawk84 Any game in particular you got issues with? let me know and i'll record my settings and some gameplay so you can compare it for yourself.

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                      • MortalWombatM
                        MortalWombat @Crush
                        last edited by

                        @crush geez yeah belated reply on my part, not sure if I noticed that when I checked my notifications. Well, guess I'm getting no answers from him, but I may use this thread if I have any more questions about NAOMI Roms.

                        (side note, is the evidence/reason for the ban still posted for all to see? I'm always kinda morbidly curious about these things if only to know where the line is/was crossed, but I generally hope everybody's treating everyone with respect)

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                        • CrushC
                          Crush
                          last edited by Crush

                          @mortalwombat all i know is that he deleted every single comment he ever made, which broke allot of helpful threads, then an admin restored the posts and he was banned. I don't know what started it.

                          All the bios files for Dreamcast and Naomi/Atomiswave go into "/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/dc"
                          As per your rom size and content regarding sfz3ugd, yours was different as mine and Dreamcastkid, i posted the results of my extracted folder above, for instance yours does not contain "93c46.bin"

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                          • GreenHawk84G
                            GreenHawk84 @Crush
                            last edited by

                            @crush I appreciate your willing to provide some results. Blitz 2001 (I think, maybe just any Blitz) and MKGold were giving me really odd graphic issues on Flycast.

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                            • Striderx99S
                              Striderx99
                              last edited by

                              Hey everyone. I just tried some NG.DEV.TEAM Dreamcast games with Flycast. Unfortunately, the core doesn't seem to work with the three that I tested (Gunlord, Fast Striker, and Gun Blade). I hear the volume, but no gameplay graphics appear (just a black screen). The same occurred with the Redream core (all on the Windows 10 x64 version of EmulationStation). Any ideas on what I can do to fix this issue? Thank you.

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                              • Striderx99S
                                Striderx99 @Striderx99
                                last edited by

                                @striderx99 Sorry, but Gun Blade should be Ghost Blade, and that particular game is from Hucast Games.

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                                • sirhenrythe5thS
                                  sirhenrythe5th @Striderx99
                                  last edited by

                                  @striderx99 cannot speak for flycast, but can confirm that all three named NG:DEV-Games run pretty well using lr-flycast.
                                  Also running: Neo XYX & Last Hope: Pink Bullets

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                                  • CrushC
                                    Crush @GreenHawk84
                                    last edited by Crush

                                    @greenhawk84 Sorry currently my pc has broken down so i backed up Retropie and installed Raspbean so i could continue to work from the home office, so all i got left for gaming momentarily is my RPI0 which i turned into a Sega mini :-(

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