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    AlphaBetaPie @AlphaBetaPie
    last edited by 21 Mar 2021, 16:03

    After some testing, I just want to say that I LOVE THIS FREAKIN' EMULATOR! By far the most progress I've seen to-date on getting Saturn to run on a pie. I can't wait to see where this goes in the future.

    Just one small complaint/request. Is there ever going to be a disc control option implemented? Without that, I don't know how to load my double-disc Saturn games with this already great emulator. Or is there another way I'm unaware of?

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      Zering @AlphaBetaPie
      last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 09:43

      @alphabetapie Like I said - try the standalone version of yabasanshiro.

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        barbudreadmon @AlphaBetaPie
        last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 10:28

        @alphabetapie said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

        I can't wait to see where this goes in the future.

        That core is crap and pretty much unmaintained now, don't use it.
        There are instructions on setting up standalone above, starting from around https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/251721

        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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          AlphaBetaPie @barbudreadmon
          last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 13:55

          Sure, I'm game. I just tried that, simply because it was easy to install and I don't have as much experience setting up a stand-alone from scratch. But I'll try and see if I can figure it out.

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            AlphaBetaPie @AlphaBetaPie
            last edited by AlphaBetaPie 22 Mar 2021, 15:08

            As I feared, I'm getting stuck on installing the standalone. I started out pretty good, but running any of the lines found in the links always generate some type of error. So, I deleted the folder and started over. So here is where I am as of now, but still unable to move forward. What should be the correct command to run next? This is the first time I've ever tried doing a manual install using this method (usually just use the Retropie setup menu), so any assist is appreciated.

            pi@retropie:~ $ $ apt update
            $ apt install -y git python-pip cmake build-essential protobuf-compiler libprotobuf-dev libsecret-1-dev libssl-dev libsdl2-dev libboost-all-dev
            git clone https://github.com/devmiyax/yabause.git -b pi4
            $ cd yabause
            $ git submodule update --init --recursive
            $ mkdir build
            $ cd build-bash: $: command not found
            pi@retropie:~ $ $ apt install -y git python-pip cmake build-essential protobuf-compiler libprotobuf-dev libsecret-1-dev libssl-dev libsdl2-dev libboost-all-dev
            -bash: $: command not found
            pi@retropie:~ $ git clone https://github.com/devmiyax/yabause.git -b pi4
            Cloning into 'yabause'...
            remote: Enumerating objects: 186, done.
            remote: Counting objects: 100% (186/186), done.
            remote: Compressing objects: 100% (151/151), done.
            remote: Total 46779 (delta 31), reused 135 (delta 27), pack-reused 46593
            Receiving objects: 100% (46779/46779), 148.58 MiB | 8.85 MiB/s, done.
            Resolving deltas: 100% (29269/29269), done.
            Checking out files: 100% (1777/1777), done.
            pi@retropie:~ $ $ cd yabause
            -bash: $: command not found
            pi@retropie:~ $ $ git submodule update --init --recursive
            -bash: $: command not found
            pi@retropie:~ $ $ mkdir build
            -bash: $: command not found
            pi@retropie:~ $ $ cd build
            
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              barbudreadmon @AlphaBetaPie
              last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 15:26

              @alphabetapie you are inserting $ everywhere, that's why lots of commands are failing, it's pretty explicit actually : $: command not found

              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                AlphaBetaPie @barbudreadmon
                last edited by AlphaBetaPie 22 Mar 2021, 16:32

                @barbudreadmon said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                @alphabetapie you are inserting $ everywhere, that's why lots of commands are failing, it's pretty explicit actually : $: command not found

                Am I inserting it? I'm copying and pasting the exact code from this link here. The $ is present in the original. I'm supposed to edit those out? I didn't see anything about that in the instructions above. But I can try that if needed. Again, first time manually installing over here.

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                  mitu Global Moderator @AlphaBetaPie
                  last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 16:59

                  @alphabetapie said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                  The $ is present in the original

                  The $ signifies a command prompt, so you know the commands are from the command line. You don't have to copy it.

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                    AlphaBetaPie @mitu
                    last edited by AlphaBetaPie 22 Mar 2021, 17:29

                    Still getting errors, but I'll keep working on this and hash it out over the next few days. Thanks for the info all!

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                      AlphaBetaPie @Darksavior
                      last edited by AlphaBetaPie 22 Mar 2021, 18:30

                      @darksavior said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                      @alphabetapie This is the only place you should get it from: https://github.com/joolswills/RetroPie-Setup/tree/lr-yabasanshiro

                      Question for you @darksavior. I need to stick to the Retroarch cores, due to the fact that I need access to several important customization options to make my theme work. Do you happen to know if there is a core version (or maybe another fork) that includes disc control in Retroarch?

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                        barbudreadmon @AlphaBetaPie
                        last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 20:06

                        @alphabetapie said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                        I'm supposed to edit those out?

                        Yes, that's the command prompt, you don't need to copy it.

                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                          AlphaBetaPie @barbudreadmon
                          last edited by 23 Mar 2021, 00:56

                          @barbudreadmon said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                          @alphabetapie said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                          I'm supposed to edit those out?

                          Yes, that's the command prompt, you don't need to copy it.

                          Yeah, thanks. @mitu also mentioned that above. Meant to thank him for the info as well, but forgot.

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                            Darksavior @AlphaBetaPie
                            last edited by Darksavior 23 Mar 2021, 04:52

                            Since lr-yabasanshiro is basically abandoned, can it be officially added to retropie and give people the option to use it over lr-yabause? Some games don't have bugs and are faster. The slowdowns doesn't affect the audio.

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                              AlphaBetaPie @Darksavior
                              last edited by 23 Mar 2021, 15:29

                              @darksavior said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                              Since lr-yabasanshiro is basically abandoned, can it be officially added to retropie and give people the option to use it over lr-yabause? Some games don't have bugs and are faster. The slowdowns doesn't affect the audio.

                              I 100% endorse this. I was able to get the most recent version (December 2020 as far as I know), because I fished the appropriate files out of a zip file. But without that link (and the ability to know what I was looking), I would have never been able to make my Saturn collection semi-playable now. Having it in the menu would be great for less-informed users.

                              Also, can @darksavior (or anyone) confirm or deny if any version of the lr core of yabasanshiro has or had a disc control option? I think the standalone might, but I can't use that for my setup. I need Retroarch for theme reasons.

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                                Zering @AlphaBetaPie
                                last edited by 23 Mar 2021, 15:56

                                @alphabetapie Why do you need RetroArch for theme reasons?

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                                  G30FF @AlphaBetaPie
                                  last edited by 23 Mar 2021, 15:59

                                  @alphabetapie The developer (barbudreadmon) never implemented disc control in lr-yabause or lr-yabasanshiro. But apparently it's not needed, as you can just quit the game and then start it directly from the next disc while loading up the existing save.

                                  https://forums.libretro.com/t/yaba-sanshiro-disc-swap-question/26239

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                                    AlphaBetaPie @Zering
                                    last edited by 24 Mar 2021, 02:16

                                    @zering said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                                    @alphabetapie Why do you need RetroArch for theme reasons?

                                    Overlays and custom resolutions, among other things.

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                                      AlphaBetaPie @G30FF
                                      last edited by 24 Mar 2021, 02:19

                                      @g30ff said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                                      @alphabetapie The developer (barbudreadmon) never implemented disc control in lr-yabause or lr-yabasanshiro. But apparently it's not needed, as you can just quit the game and then start it directly from the next disc while loading up the existing save.

                                      https://forums.libretro.com/t/yaba-sanshiro-disc-swap-question/26239

                                      Thanks for the heads up. I think Saturn is one of the only systems I know you can load the second disc on the fly. The rest seem more anal about that (and having you start with disc 1).

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                                        mechafatnick
                                        last edited by 28 Mar 2021, 08:12

                                        Hello folks! According to the discord Yaba now officially supports Vulkan on Win/Android. Presumably it won't be in the Retroarena version yet?

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                                          Soxbrother
                                          last edited by Soxbrother 4 Oct 2021, 23:05 10 Apr 2021, 14:06

                                          Hi,

                                          I've installed the standalone version of yaba sanshiro with the instructions given here.
                                          (on my Pi4b - 8gb)

                                          Only thing not working is the controls.
                                          I've set the controls for player 1 numerous times, but nothing seems to work.
                                          I'm using an adafruit cupcade.

                                          I've tried analogue and keyboard, also tried with keyboard disabled.
                                          Maybe it's not saving the input values or something ?

                                          Can anyone help ?
                                          Thanks in advance.

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