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    (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?

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    • DirtBagXonD
      DirtBagXon @SaturnX
      last edited by DirtBagXon

      @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

      @dirtbagxon Once again... a HUGE thanks!

      I find it extremely interesting there is such a stark difference between the RetroPie build of daphne and yours. It's a shame, it would be great if your enhancements were pulled into the RetroPie build so this was a far less manual exercise.

      I think this demonstrates the issues arising in porting software. As I stated my version is far closer to original source than that of RetroPie, libretro and hypseus ports.
      All of which seem to have different issues.

      If I can find the time, I'll see about putting together another guide for your daphne build.

      I'm certain many users would appreciate that.

      I have made some discoveries on the hypseus port, and have some games running better. I may delve more if I find some time.....

      Thanks to both you guys for your help in testing all this too...

      Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
      Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
      Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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      • DirtBagXonD
        DirtBagXon @SaturnX
        last edited by DirtBagXon

        @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

        Now that I think about it, and maybe @DirtBagXon could confirm - but instead of symlinks, could we not simply modify the run.sh script to target the typical locations on a RetroPie install?

        Absolutely, you can write a custom run.sh for Daphne and Singe.

        I would be happy to merge into my repos if you create a pull request.

        Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
        Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
        Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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        • SaturnXS
          SaturnX @DirtBagXon
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          @dirtbagxon said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

          @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

          Now that I think about it, and maybe @DirtBagXon could confirm - but instead of symlinks, could we not simply modify the run.sh script to target the typical locations on a RetroPie install?

          Absolutely, you can write a custom run.sh for Daphne and Singe.

          I would be happy to merge into my repos if you create a pull request.

          Excellent! I'll put some time into that with the end goal of making it extremely easy for other RetroPie users. I'll play around and see what I can come up with.

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          • DirtBagXonD
            DirtBagXon @SaturnX
            last edited by DirtBagXon

            Some movement on the Hypseus (Daphne SDL2 replacement) working with 64bit Kernel + KMS for those interested:

            https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/254871

             

            Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
            Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
            Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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              TreasureFingers @SaturnX
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              @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

              @dirtbagxon said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

              @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

              Now that I think about it, and maybe @DirtBagXon could confirm - but instead of symlinks, could we not simply modify the run.sh script to target the typical locations on a RetroPie install?

              Absolutely, you can write a custom run.sh for Daphne and Singe.

              I would be happy to merge into my repos if you create a pull request.

              Excellent! I'll put some time into that with the end goal of making it extremely easy for other RetroPie users. I'll play around and see what I can come up with.

              Seriously can't wait to see the script. i've been following this but keep getting stuck on things. I've been dying to finally play these games.
              thank you

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              • DirtBagXonD
                DirtBagXon @TreasureFingers
                last edited by DirtBagXon

                @treasurefingers said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                @dirtbagxon said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                Now that I think about it, and maybe @DirtBagXon could confirm - but instead of symlinks, could we not simply modify the run.sh script to target the typical locations on a RetroPie install?

                Absolutely, you can write a custom run.sh for Daphne and Singe.

                I would be happy to merge into my repos if you create a pull request.

                Excellent! I'll put some time into that with the end goal of making it extremely easy for other RetroPie users. I'll play around and see what I can come up with.

                Seriously can't wait to see the script. i've been following this but keep getting stuck on things. I've been dying to finally play these games.
                thank you

                @SaturnX

                Can I suggest that you hold off a little on doing too much work on documenting/scripting this version of Daphne/Singe. I am making good progress on getting Hypseus Singe working which should be a big improvement and far easier to create an installation, as it will twin as a SDLv2 Daphne replacement too. It is a monolithic statically linked binary so doesn't require dealing with the libvldp2.so and libsinge.so shared libraries. Which means you can drop it anywhere and run it.

                I don't think ActionMax games (if they are important to you ) are going to be implemented in Hypseus Singe at this point.
                The overlay indexes will need some work to transfer to SDLv2.

                https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/255510

                I just need to find time now....

                 

                Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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                • SaturnXS
                  SaturnX @DirtBagXon
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                  @dirtbagxon Thanks for the heads up!

                  I just got your daphne build up and running on my Pi4 (Kernel 5.10.17 w/ Full KMS driver). It's running like a dream.

                  I quickly put together a a small script just for it to hook in nicely with EmulationStation and to allow me to keep the ROM structure identical to the RetroPie build of Daphne. It's still rough since it meets my needs (also needs a couple symlinks), so I'll hold off on polishing it up.

                  I'm excited to see the developments on hypseus - I'm actively watching that thread.

                  I completely agree about finding time... haha. There just never seems to be enough!

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                    TreasureFingers @DirtBagXon
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                    @dirtbagxon said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                    @treasurefingers said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                    @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                    @dirtbagxon said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                    @saturnx said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                    Now that I think about it, and maybe @DirtBagXon could confirm - but instead of symlinks, could we not simply modify the run.sh script to target the typical locations on a RetroPie install?

                    Absolutely, you can write a custom run.sh for Daphne and Singe.

                    I would be happy to merge into my repos if you create a pull request.

                    Excellent! I'll put some time into that with the end goal of making it extremely easy for other RetroPie users. I'll play around and see what I can come up with.

                    Seriously can't wait to see the script. i've been following this but keep getting stuck on things. I've been dying to finally play these games.
                    thank you

                    @SaturnX

                    Can I suggest that you hold off a little on doing too much work on documenting/scripting this version of Daphne/Singe. I am making good progress on getting Hypseus Singe working which should be a big improvement and far easier to create an installation, as it will twin as a SDLv2 Daphne replacement too. It is a monolithic statically linked binary so doesn't require dealing with the libvldp2.so and libsinge.so shared libraries. Which means you can drop it anywhere and run it.

                    I don't think ActionMax games (if they are important to you ) are going to be implemented in Hypseus Singe at this point.
                    The overlay indexes will need some work to transfer to SDLv2.

                    https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/255510

                    I just need to find time now....

                     

                    so are action max games out of the question?

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                    • DirtBagXonD
                      DirtBagXon @TreasureFingers
                      last edited by DirtBagXon

                      @treasurefingers said in [(REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?]

                      so are action max games out of the question?

                      Nothing is out of the question, I am just not sure how best to do it at this point :)

                      Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                      Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                      Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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                      • DirtBagXonD
                        DirtBagXon @DirtBagXon
                        last edited by DirtBagXon

                        hypseus-singe.png

                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/255510

                         

                        Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                        Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                        Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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                        • DirtBagXonD
                          DirtBagXon @DirtBagXon
                          last edited by DirtBagXon

                          Hypseus Singe now a direct drop-in replacement for RetroPie Daphne plugin:

                          https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe/blob/master/src/3rdparty/retropie/RETROPIE.md

                           
                          Requires RetroPie scripts to extent the Singe element....

                           

                          Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                          Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                          Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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                            TreasureFingers @DirtBagXon
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                            @dirtbagxon said in (REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?:

                            Hypseus Singe now a direct drop-in replacement for RetroPie Daphne plugin:

                            https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe/blob/master/RETROPIE.md

                             
                            Requires RetroPie scripts to extent the Singe element....

                             

                            I saw the script in the link you posted does that mean @SaturnX doesnt need to write a script now? Also it does it run all the aforementioned games you were talking about Time Gal ,Mad Dog McCree, bega , road blaster etc. exluding action max . lastly would do we have to add it to the menu or does the script do that aswell. (just asking)

                            Great job!

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                            • DirtBagXonD
                              DirtBagXon @TreasureFingers
                              last edited by DirtBagXon

                              @treasurefingers

                               
                              https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe/blob/master/src/3rdparty/retropie/RETROPIE.md

                               
                              Everything except ActionMax.

                              All games will be seen in the Daphne Menu within RetroPie.

                               

                              Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                              Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                              Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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                              • DirtBagXonD
                                DirtBagXon @DirtBagXon
                                last edited by DirtBagXon

                                Singe 2 game support now implemented (kinda):

                                https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/256783

                                https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe

                                https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data

                                 

                                Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                                Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                                Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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                                • DirtBagXonD
                                  DirtBagXon @TreasureFingers
                                  last edited by DirtBagXon

                                  @treasurefingers said in [(REQUEST) Add Daphne Singe emulator?]

                                  so are action max games out of the question?

                                  @TreasureFingers - especially for you :)

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                                  Untested on the RPi - so let me know.

                                   

                                  Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                                  Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                                  Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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                                    TreasureFingers @DirtBagXon
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                                    @dirtbagxon Crazy how all fast this is going. I can't wait to try this out. Thank you and keep up the good work!

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                                    • DTEAMD
                                      DTEAM
                                      last edited by DTEAM

                                      For Daphne users. See this link:

                                      Video reducer for Daphne

                                      See at the end

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                                      • DarksaviorD
                                        Darksavior @DTEAM
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                                        @dteam If you're overclocking to 2Ghz/750Mhz, then 1080p is fine. Stock pi4 will sometimes hit 100% cpu. 720p should be fine.

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                                          DTEAM @Darksavior
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                                          • DirtBagXonD
                                            DirtBagXon @TreasureFingers
                                            last edited by DirtBagXon

                                            For anyone who hasn't figured ActionMax install

                                            https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data/tree/master/00-singe1/actionmax

                                             
                                            Current ActionMax status:

                                            These games read specific pixels from the YUV/YV12 video overlay in an SDL_Texture

                                            Reading information from SDL_Textures is problematic as it is contained in GPU memory.

                                            This can be achieved using SetRenderTarget and RenderReadPixels but is already a slow process. It also only seems to be implemented well in X11.

                                            It appears RetroPie (armhf) isn't handling this well at the moment.

                                            ActionMax (armhf) will not work with SDL_RENDERER_ACCELERATED only in software SDL_RENDERER_SOFTWARE using the -nohwaccel argument.

                                            The issue is then that the CPU has to handle this heavy texture switching and reading, and the Pi struggles.

                                            ActionMax works as expected on (x86_64) and (i386) RetroPie builds using hardware acceleration in X11.

                                            The Windows version (no X11) requires -nohwaccel but CPU grunt handles it fine from there.

                                            Without a major rewrite of the overlay codebase, this is a casualty of the SDL1 to SDL2 porting, until better X11 support is implemented or SDL2 matures.

                                             

                                            Hypseus Singe for RetroPie: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe
                                            Hypseus Singe Games: https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus_singe_data
                                            Hypseus Discord: https://discord.gg/dgCsCfmRfJ

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