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    Folly @mechafatnick
    last edited by Folly 26 Jun 2021, 19:27

    @mechafatnick @DTEAM

    I just found that we don't need the NVRAMs if we don't want to.
    I made some save-states and booted with them, removing the NVRAMs before the boot made them boot directly without the need of a nvram file.

    Something to take into account.

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      mechafatnick
      last edited by 26 Jun 2021, 21:40

      That's good to know! worth noting that save states are 30mb each though so i'm not sure we should deploy them when we don't have to (i've used one with Skichamp though, to get round an annoying drive board error)

      I've updated my repo with the Nvram files and Save state i've created so far + my ini file with my collection of game-related settings (I use Visual Studio Code for source control if that helps)

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        DTEAM @mechafatnick
        last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 01:37

        @mechafatnick @Folly
        Maybe you should create a new thread like we did for Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone . Like this, you could start with a small crash cours on how to install and use the script and continue with showing where you are in the developpement process.

        Because, right now, you don't have the control of the first post in this thread.

        Do you think it's a good idea?

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          Folly @mechafatnick
          last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 08:28

          @mechafatnick said in Sega model 3 #segamodel3:

          That's good to know! worth noting that save states are 30mb each though so i'm not sure we should deploy them when we don't have to (i've used one with Skichamp though, to get round an annoying drive board error)

          Indeed we could just do those that are only problematic.
          Others can have just the NVRAMs.

          I've updated my repo with the Nvram files and Save state i've created so far + my ini file with my collection of game-related settings (I use Visual Studio Code for source control if that helps)

          Will have a look at that.

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            Folly @DTEAM
            last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 08:29

            @dteam said in Sega model 3 #segamodel3:

            @mechafatnick @Folly
            Maybe you should create a new thread like we did for Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone . Like this, you could start with a small crash cours on how to install and use the script and continue with showing where you are in the developpement process.

            Because, right now, you don't have the control of the first post in this thread.

            Do you think it's a good idea?

            I think that's a good idea.

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              mechafatnick @Folly
              last edited by mechafatnick 27 Jun 2021, 08:39

              @folly

              Right, just uploaded a load more default NVRAMs (covering everything i think) along with a .ini with settings for a load more games.

              Shocking find of the morning: the Pi can handle the PPC clocked at the real 66hz and beyond. This means we're able to have the sound in games like Spikeout and Daytona with minimal slowdown.

              N.B,

              Sega Rally loses the menu if you insert coin before the demo mode. SWA won't load the game (iof you wait till Darth Vader appears it works)

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                Folly @mechafatnick
                last edited by Folly 27 Jun 2021, 10:03

                @mechafatnick

                Can you rename nvram to NVRAM ?
                Can you rename *.st0 to *.st ?
                (gamename of the .st has to be like the zip)

                Otherwise I it won't work.

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                  Folly @mechafatnick
                  last edited by Folly 27 Jun 2021, 13:47

                  @mechafatnick @DTEAM

                  I added the module-script to github
                  link_to_commit

                  Isn't tested yet on NVRAM and Saves, as the source doesn't have the proper NVRAM directory yet.
                  If it doesn't find the correct directory, It will install though, but without copying those directories.

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                    mechafatnick @Folly
                    last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 13:52

                    @folly yeah sorry we popped to Costco!

                    I've renamed those files so it should all work now.

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                      Folly @mechafatnick
                      last edited by Folly 27 Jun 2021, 13:55

                      @mechafatnick said in Sega model 3 #segamodel3:

                      @folly yeah sorry we popped to Costco!

                      I've renamed those files so it should all work now.

                      Perfect, we can test !!!!
                      Curious if this will work OOB. ;-)

                      FIXED EDIT: I have to fix an issue, NVRAM and Saves directories are not copied correctly.

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                        Folly @mechafatnick
                        last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 14:58

                        @mechafatnick

                        Can you check your Supermodel.ini ?
                        If I use the old Supermodel.ini then it seems to run fine.

                        I get an error in runcommand.log that says there is an error in line 366 of Supermodel.ini.

                        If you want more info I can post the runcommand.log

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                          mechafatnick @Folly
                          last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 15:08

                          @folly It's alright! i forgot to put a ; in front of a comment. Updated.

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                            Folly @mechafatnick
                            last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 15:32

                            @mechafatnick

                            I still have to fix some issues.
                            Can take a while.......

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                              Folly @mechafatnick
                              last edited by Folly 27 Jun 2021, 16:24

                              @mechafatnick

                              Can you remove this from the Supermodel.ini ? :

                              GameXMLFile= /opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel/bin/Config/Games.xml
                              

                              My module-script places the emulator files in :
                              /opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel-mechafatnick

                              I have done this to prevent the mix-up with manual installs that otherwise will brake.
                              As I use pushd in the runcommand-line it will automatically find the XML file without the need of putting it in the ini file or as an option in the runcommand-line.
                              With above line still added in ini file , then the emulator will not find the XML because it will search in the wrong directory.

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                                mechafatnick @Folly
                                last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 16:37

                                @folly Done! I suspect the couple of save states will have to be changed too then.

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                                  Folly @mechafatnick
                                  last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 16:46

                                  @mechafatnick said in Sega model 3 #segamodel3:

                                  @folly Done! I suspect the couple of save states will have to be changed too then.

                                  Yes, indeed I saw that.

                                  We have to decide whether we put them in the runcommand-line or in the ini.

                                  If I put it in the runcommand-line the source code is still, sort of, compatible with a manual install and people can add just .st files without editing the ini file.

                                  If you think we should prefer to put it in the ini file, just let me know.

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                                    Folly @mechafatnick
                                    last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 17:16

                                    @mechafatnick @DTEAM

                                    I did some minor fixes.
                                    Basically, the module-script should work now.

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                                      mechafatnick @Folly
                                      last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 17:18

                                      @folly Oh definitely definitely the ini method! If you check the game-specific settings i set up lastnight/this morning there's a much wider margin than i originally anticipated - particularly as some games need the PPC to be run above 60hz.

                                      From a user point of view i think it would be much better for us to work our what works in advance and the user just switch between normal/high res modes in the command line.

                                      We could even include an ini file set to run everything using the new 3d engine and at full speed if someone in the future wants to build/run under windows

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                                        Folly @mechafatnick
                                        last edited by Folly 27 Jun 2021, 18:16

                                        @mechafatnick

                                        Sounds good.

                                        Just found we can use relative paths in the Supermodel.ini.

                                        Turn this :

                                        InitStateFile = /opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel/bin/Saves/srally2.st
                                        

                                        Into this :

                                        InitStateFile = Saves/srally2.st
                                        

                                        And we are way more flexible as where we will put the emulator files.

                                        I think you could even do that for all games.
                                        Whether there is a save state or not, I think it will always boot, with or without save file.

                                        Agreed ?

                                        I can then remove the options from the runcommand-lines.
                                        Now that all the games get their own configs I presume I can also remove the under-clock lines, just keeping only 1 runcommand-line.
                                        Am I right ?

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                                          mechafatnick @Folly
                                          last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 19:00

                                          @folly

                                          Yep! we can have one:

                                          Supermodel = "XINIT:/opt/retropie/emulators/supermodel/bin/supermodel %ROM%"
                                          

                                          Or a couple with different res options? (with the resolution specified in the command line - thats how the N64 emus do it.

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