What Pi 4 Arcade image?
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Ok, so I finally built my first standup arcade and happy with how it came out. I am running a Pi 4 8GB (I know 4GB would have been fine, I did not know at the time).
Now that it is done I find it a pain to get ROMS to work. I am thinking to just get a PI 4 image. I am not asking where to get ROMS or images but just for a Pi 4 image recommendation, just the name.
I am not looking for every gaming console under the sun and are interested in Arcade/Mame image only.
Thanks for any guidance.
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@mellow said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
I am not asking where to get ROMS or images but just for a Pi 4 image recommendation, just the name.
The only image we support here is the one from retropie.org.uk/download.
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@mitu I am using RetroPie but was referring to a ROMs image to use with it.
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@mellow I understood perfetctly what you're asking. Please re-read the forum rules and my reply.
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@mellow you are in the wrong forum.
we are the ones who prefer to create their own images based on the one mitu told you. -
@sirhenrythe5th My apologies, I am new to RetroPie and although I have the hardware and cabinet all done, I have no clue on the software parts of things. I did see the images on punks but wow I do not want 60 consoles and billions of games.
I want classic arcade coin-ops (MAME) from the 70's, 80's and 90's.
So building my own collection then, where do I start? The ROM's I got mostly work but there are many that crash. I have a selection of emulators but is seems like a crapshoot. Then there are ones that work partially, like missing sounds est.
So between putting things in correct folders and using correct emulators, I am having more frustration than success. This with the added 'pressure' of two young ones that are chomping at the bits to use the machine dad so finely crafted.
I am open to any suggestions.
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@mellow checkout out our arcade documentation: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Arcade/
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@mellow i am an arcade fan also and like those games you mentioned from 70s-90s the most too.
I can really recommend to create your own image, it is not that complicated as it seems.
First of all you should download the official image and write it to a SD-Card.
The first time you will start it emulationstation will be nearly blank, only the config-menu will appear.
So no 60+ systems that you dont need anymore :)As you are concentrating on arcade if have good news for you: the necessary emulators are allready on board (i.e. "FBNeo", this one also supports retro-achievements which is great fun IMO)
The only thing you have to do is find the right roms or complete romsets.
This is a thing where google can be very helpful ;)
Of course you can also read great docs here and we will help you anytime here in this forum.EDIT: missing sounds: some of the games of the golden age still need "samples" which have to be copied in the dedicated "samples"-folder of the emulator.
Also here i recommend to try a google-search ;) -
@sirhenrythe5th I have the official image and a squeaky clean new install of RetroPi.
I have the following emulators:
lr-fbneo-neocd
lr-fbneo
lr-mame2003
lr-mame2016
lr-mame
mameSo I download a ROM and if it does not work on lr-fbneo I go down the list with partial success. I am not sure where to put the ROMS under MAMAE or ARCADE folders?
As an example, I cannot get Moon Patrol to work no matter what emulator I choose.
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@mellow
i recommend to put the roms in the "arcade"-folder.
When you start a game in emulationstation a message pops up saying "push a button to configure".
If a game does not run with the default emulator, you can select another one in this menu.If the game does not run with any of the emulators (i use FBNeo, lr-MAME2010 & lr-MAME2016) you need another rom.
You can find the right romsets for the (lr-)MAMEs by searching them by their version-number.
Or just search for "Mame2016" (without spaces) and have a look at the results.FB-Neo is something different because the romsets change very often during the very active development.
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@mellow I’ve said this dozens of times before regarding arcade roms, downloading random roms from the internet is going to lead to frustration. You have no idea what set they are from. Arcade emulation is not like console emulators where you throw a rom at it and it just tries to run it. As better dumps of arcade roms become available, mame and fbneo will update and no longer run older dump. That’s how it works. You need to look for a romset for the emulator and version, you wish to use. The most popular are mame 2003 and FBneo.
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@mellow hiya. Welcome to the forum. Nice build, I really like the Stranger Things reference "Palace Arcade". That's great!
I've built 6 cabinets, 2 dedicated and 4 MAME'd. The best collection for running it in RetroPie is lr-mamar2003 rom version .78. you'll get the most working roms from it and as long as you're in the "old skool" range, you won't have 100 million copies and clones as well.
If you're not familiar with running MAME or Retropie software, this could be a challenge at first, but come here and ask questions. Not only do you work with the standard MAME menu, you have the Retropie Menu as well. I highly recommend using a BT SNES style controller to configure the games with, well...really just to use the menus easier as using the stick and buttons is difficult.
I'd like to ask you.... Who did the graphics, where did you get the cabinet and where are the buttons from (Ultimarc?)
I just finished my Gorf restoration/MAME conversion. So I'm right where you are, but I'm sticking to running a small form PC and GameEx with native MAME. I just find it easier for my cabinets. They all have the same configs and parts are swappable. No offense meant to Retropie...I've been doing it this way for 20 years now. Lol.
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@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
The best collection for running it in RetroPie is lr-mamar2003 rom version .78. you'll get the most working roms from it and as long as you're in the "old skool" range
That's just plain ridiculous and wrong, 18 years old version of mame doesn't have more working games than more recent ones. Furthermore the more recent emulators also emulate mame2003's working ones better.
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@barbudreadmon said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
The best collection for running it in RetroPie is lr-mamar2003 rom version .78. you'll get the most working roms from it and as long as you're in the "old skool" range
That's just plain ridiculous and wrong, 18 years old version of mame doesn't have more working games than more recent ones. Furthermore the more recent emulators also emulate mame2003's working ones better.
Thanks for the smack in the face. What a way to start a post... never heard of being considerate? It's a Help and Support forum, consider that before you reply like this.
Obviously he has other options..
If you read what I said CLEARLY before quoting me and completely annihilating my advice...for someone not very familiar with a RetroPie build and looking for old skool games, it's a very good start and easy to find Roms for with a simple search....because it says the version numbers in the listing when you Google it. It's easy to set up and get familiar with... First learn that not everyone out there is at expert level with building and configuring.But hey... You're the defacto... What do 8 know.
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@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
It's a Help and Support forum, consider that before you reply like this.
That's exactly why i can't ignore an answer saying the polar opposite of reality, since it's gonna mislead people who don't know.
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@barbudreadmon I also don't ignore posts that I might know something more....but I don't treat other members like shit.
Opinions are like assholes...everyone's got one...just keep it clean.
Have a wonderful day
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@mellow
Hi,
best advise I can give you is to learn how clrmamepro works (this is the tool used to build correct romsets for many different arcade emulators) Full sets can be built from a combination of the current mame romset and a mame rollback romset. Each version of mame (or final burn) has an associated dat file that contains the 'recipe' to make that specific set - dat files are easy enough to find on the net
watch this to get an idea of what's involved -
@jamrom2 said in What Pi 4 Arcade image?:
@barbudreadmon I also don't ignore posts that I might know something more....but I don't treat other members like shit.
He didn't treat anyone like shit, he criticised your statement – albeit quite bluntly. Please don't mix those two together like too many people nowadays do.
Besides, lr-mame2003 won't get you "the most working roms". Even if limited to old school roms and the Pi family's hardware capabilities, lr-mame2003-plus and lr-fbneo support way more (and improved) roms than lr-mame2003.
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i think you're both right ;)
0.78 romset collection is trivial to find, and static, and can run a decent breadth of the games that are viable on a raspberry pi 2-4, albeit at variable emulation quality.
fbn romset collections are marginally less easy to find (especially if you don't understand exactly what you're looking for), and constantly updated, can run more games* than mame2003, with better emulation quality.
(*) in the FBA days mame2003 supported quite a few 80s/early 90s "golden age" games that FBA didn't, with FBA being a good supplementary emulator with its CPS3 support, better neogeo support, amongst other things...but with FBN's constant stream of additions i'm not sure that's the case anymore. at this point i wonder if mame2003 supports anything of note that FBN doesn't?
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@dankcushions I don't know about FBN, but MAME 2003 Plus is a fork of the static mame2003, and therefore should support all of its games plus any additions in the last years.
I for my part maintain both FBN and Plus on my RetroPie system, so I can switch easily from one to another if one lacks something the other don't.
You are right in that 2003 romsets may be easier to find, whereas FBN and Plus romsets may require periodic manual rebuilding (although I do stumble upon more or less up-to-date romsets for them from time to time). But that wasn't the point that @barbudreadmon criticised.
The real issue here of course was how blunt arguments should be. I confess that I'm more on the out-front side there, as long as the claim itself is targeted and not the person stating it. Which IMHO was the case here, though I for myself wouldn't have used the word "ridiculous". 😇
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