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      retrofan @Folly
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      @folly

      Yes, I also have hdmi sound with fake GL driver but I can't get it at all with full one, within ES or cli.
      Do you have a sound with full GL drivers, maybe I missed something after all ?
      Frankly, I don't know what the difference is between a full and fake GL driver, but the speed is now at stable 50 fps and the image renders better than legacy drivers, without crisp edges etc.
      As for the key auto repeat issue, I played around a bit with the governor within the runcommand setting and the "performance" option seems to be the best choice.
      In these few days, great progress has been made, thanks to you, and this is now just a desire for perfection. ;)

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        Folly @retrofan
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        @retrofan

        I tested full KMS again.
        No hdmi sound also and black screen again in Desktop. ;-(
        So no success with this option either.

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          Lister of Smeg @Folly
          last edited by Lister of Smeg

          @folly
          Hi, just a quick fyi
          I may be late to the party but I have had b-em 2.2 from http://b-em.bbcmicro.com (actually i'm using a slightly updated fork but can't remember where I got it from - if you want I can upload my install folder somehow?) running fullscreen/fullspeed/fullsound on a pi3 - stretch
          It's old, but it works great for games
          btw - thanks for your work on the electron

          *edit - link for version I use (games removed)
          https://www109.zippyshare.com/v/uWq1jLsJ/file.html

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          • FollyF
            Folly @Lister of Smeg
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            @lister-of-smeg

            That is interesting.

            I will have a look at that, when I can.

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              Lister of Smeg @Folly
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              @folly
              hope it's useful for someone
              I think your solutions for the electron emulator should only take minor tweaking to get this scripted and working - applying cea-17 at the run command gives a resolution for full screen that just about lets the (f11) gui be seen (at least that is what i'm using)
              sorry about the poor photos - they're only to give you a rough idea of what's possible
              IMG_20210702_155335548.jpg IMG_20210702_155249017.jpg IMG_20210702_155213795.jpg

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                Folly @Lister of Smeg
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                @lister-of-smeg

                I never had issues, not seeing the (f11) menu.
                I will have try on my tv.

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                  Lister of Smeg @Folly
                  last edited by

                  @folly
                  admittedly I am still using the stretch image so there may be differences as compared with buster - but as far as just playing games?, a little bit of a missing menu is definitely not a deal breaker (for me at least) & I know stretch isn't supported anymore so don't worry too much
                  photo from electron emu on stretch
                  IMG_20210702_174246333.jpg

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                  • FollyF
                    Folly @Lister of Smeg
                    last edited by

                    @lister-of-smeg

                    Well, seems a good fix for those who have the same problem !

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                      Folly @Lister of Smeg
                      last edited by Folly

                      @lister-of-smeg

                      Can you tell me, is your speed setting of the good b-em on 100% or is it on 500% ?

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                        Lister of Smeg @Folly
                        last edited by Lister of Smeg

                        @folly
                        yes - the 100% option is ticked in the menu
                        The emulator doesn't seem to be too resource hungry - iirc there was only the tiniest amount of slow down when I ran it on my original pi3 - the 3b+ has the occasional sound stutter (start up tune for Arcadians) but everything else seems perfect
                        (I never run overclocks btw - pi speeds are stock)

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                          Folly @Lister of Smeg
                          last edited by

                          @lister-of-smeg

                          Too bad, we don't know the exact source.
                          Did try to compile that old source of 2012 from http://b-em.bbcmicro.com but could not get it to compile.

                          Btw, I can't extract your .rar file.

                          Did you compile that binary yourself on that "strech" ?

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                            Lister of Smeg @Folly
                            last edited by Lister of Smeg

                            @folly
                            try this
                            https://www104.zippyshare.com/v/QoyhNZAp/file.html
                            just need to change permissions on the configure file to executable (probably need to delete the already compiled b-em - or just make executable then run) then ./configure && make - takes ~ 20 mins

                            yes - I've just compiled the zip folder with stretch to test & it works

                            from memory all that was needed dependency wise was
                            sudo apt-get install automake liballegro4-dev zlib1g-dev libalut-dev libopenal-dev aclocal
                            but you should already have that from your electron compiling

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                              Folly @Lister of Smeg
                              last edited by Folly

                              @lister-of-smeg

                              Just ran it, indeed works perfect here on rpi3 with buster.
                              The menu looks totally different than the latest b-em version 2.2.
                              Your files are from march 2019.

                              Perhaps we can go back to that time on the github page and try to compile that version.
                              For example this one :
                              https://github.com/stardot/b-em/tree/9c586716c6936581b23da4b7b5da365cdf8a47ea

                              Tried it, it works but has the same speed issues as the latest and it looks the same as the latest.

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                                Lister of Smeg @Folly
                                last edited by

                                @folly
                                i'm just compiling the version from https://github.com/SteveFosdick/b-em (stevefosdick rings a bell)

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                                  Folly @Lister of Smeg
                                  last edited by Folly

                                  @lister-of-smeg

                                  No, but indeed we can try.

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                                    Lister of Smeg @Folly
                                    last edited by Lister of Smeg

                                    @folly
                                    ok - not quite the same version but seems to work
                                    need to change permissions of autogen.sh and /utils/b-em-version-str.sh
                                    then
                                    ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make

                                    just tested first level of repton3 - works with no slow down :)

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                                      Folly @Lister of Smeg
                                      last edited by

                                      @lister-of-smeg

                                      I am compiling now.

                                      It wasn't working with downloading the source.
                                      I now use :

                                      git clone https://github.com/SteveFosdick/b-em.git
                                      cd b-em
                                      ./autogen.sh
                                      ./configure
                                      make
                                      
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                                        Lister of Smeg @Folly
                                        last edited by

                                        @folly
                                        I think this version is as close as we will get - maybe mine was a few commits earlier
                                        I have the master version of elite running and the cpu is only hitting 30%
                                        Sound may be a little bit more 'glitchy' but not a deal breaker

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                                          Folly @Lister of Smeg
                                          last edited by Folly

                                          @lister-of-smeg

                                          Cool, it works
                                          I tried some bitshifters-demos.
                                          It works reasonably good but it has some hiccups.
                                          But it seems we are on the right track.;-)
                                          I will look at it again tomorrow.

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                                            Lister of Smeg @Folly
                                            last edited by Lister of Smeg

                                            @folly
                                            after much searching and testing I found this version https://github.com/hoglet67/b-em/tree/263d2d44e53e593d1f51c0be9b9f404447fb33a3 to be the best overall (speech in repton3 as good as the beeb got and the arcadians tune as good as my original upload here)
                                            here is the precompiled binary https://www104.zippyshare.com/v/QoyhNZAp/file.html

                                            given the number of forks and commits available, I see no hope of finding the exact files I had

                                            • after a bit more testing i'm starting to think this version is a little better than the one I was originally using

                                            have a play and see what you think is for the best :)

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