Mame Logo Variations
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@battlecat said in Mame Variations:
I will find a forum there and make the suggestion.
I didn't mean it! :-)
This is the right forum (I guess), but this kind of request is better addressed to theme makers, such as @mattrixk , @edmaul69 , @Rookervik and others.
Or better yet, you follow the instructions in the link I have posted and DIY. This is the spirit behind the Raspberry Pi. ;-) -
@meleu Hi Meleu:
I appreciate the link. I will look into that.
The reason I posted here was because this is the area for this type of brainstorming. After all it is called:
Ideas and Development
Share your ideas and suggestions for RetroPie. You can also use this area for development discussion.But if it isn't considered part of the RetroPie or isn't something that may be suggest then I do need to post it somewhere else.
There does seem to be a lot of resistance to this idea that each MAME build have a different graphical menu representation.
What do you think? Is this really the wrong area of the forum to post ideas and suggestions to development?
Thanks,
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@battlecat I think you're in the right place! I think the problem is that we didn't quite understand what you wanted :)
I think it would probably be a good idea to have differentiating logos for the various MAME emulators but this is probably more for the Theme makers and EmulationStation
/etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg
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@battlecat said in Mame Variations:
I was trying to suggest that it would be nice to have emulation station provide different MAME screen menu icons so that it would be easier to differentiate between the MAME builds.
We already decided not to do this. Sorry.
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@battlecat I wanted to say pretty much what @backstander said. :-)
And I'm surprised by @suprjami response. Who are "we"? All the ES theme makers?
What I love in RetroPie is its flexibility to let the user make choices and customizations.
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@meleu As I said above, I discussed it with @BuZz on IRC sometime in the past.
If you wish to bring it up again then feel free, however be aware that it has been discussed and decided against. Unless there is a very convincing benefit for more than just the few of us in this thread, and a benefit which outweighs all the work to update existing themes and make people aware of the theming changes and introduce more theming work for future themers, it's probably unlikely to happen.
If one wishes to use two MAME versions, such as a libretro core and advmame, the
arcade
directory can already provide visual separation for one.Like dank says, I also don't see the value in running any combination of mame4all/mame2003/mame2010/mame2014/mame all on the one system.
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@meleu i have made seperate ones for my theme. :)
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@suprjami Maybe you guys discussed about the default theme (Carbon), but your decision doesn't prohibit it to be done in other themes. :-)
As I said above, @UDb23 made some cool logos for the various mame versions. I think these logos fit well in the Carbon (and Simple) theme. I'm just trying to convince @battlecat to edit his
es_systems.cfg
and adapt the emulationstation to fit his taste.I'm also trying to clarify that this kind of request is better addressed to ES theme makers than RetroPie developers. All the systems logos have a similar visual identity, therefore the theme makers who care about mame versions should consider this when making the logos.
I'm also trying to clarify that this forum is the right place for this kind of request, it just needs to be better described.
@battlecat would you mind to change this topic title to something like "different logos for the various mame versions"? ;-)
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@meleu said in Mame Variations:
I'm also trying to clarify that this kind of request is better addressed to ES theme makers than RetroPie developers. All the systems logos have a similar visual identity, therefore the theme makers who cares about mame versions should consider this when making the logos.
Ah, I think we are talking about slightly different things.
IIUC, you are meaning different themes for the existing directory stucture. Like one logo for
roms/mame-mame4all
and a different logo forroms/mame-libretro
and a different logo forroms/mame-advmame
. I agree that's a theming request and would be easy to do :) I would not be surprised if the default theme ends up like this one day in the future.I was talking about making separate directories for each emulator. For example:
roms/mame2003
androms/mame2010
androms/mame2014
androms/advmame094
androms/advmame14
and then theming each of those. This is what we decided not to do.I brought it up at the time as I was testing
lr-mame2010
to see how different games ran. My main motivation was that aspect ratio was broken inlr-mame2003
at the time but this has been fixed by @dankcushions so I haven't needed to touch the later versions since. -
Okay. All that discussion for something which I didn't think was all that big of a deal or that interesting.
Maybe I need to do screen-casts rather than try to type it in a forum next time. Maybe that would make my question easier to understand. I do that when I am working with programmers at a few gaming companies.
I figured that if there was a pre-configured folder for ROMs that there aught to be a separate Menu Icons for each system. I saw that MAME was being treated as one system even through there are multiple folders for different MAME builds.
I do appreciate all the constructive discussion.
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@battlecat
In answer to your question about the default carbon theme, as meleu says, you can replace the images with custom version:
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/2975/svg-format-for-emulationstation/9Or you can simply use (or create) a different theme that uses separate graphics for those systems.
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@Floob By "doing my own thing" it does not really solve that issue for anyone else who may think wow we need to be able to tell the MAMEs apart.
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EUREKA!!!
I think I've found a solution to make us stop saying the same thing over and over again!! :-DHey @battlecat the Carbon ES theme is the default in RetroPie. The Carbon theme creator has a forum thread named Carbon Theme Suggestions. This is the perfect place to make your request!
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Great job @meleu !!! :-)
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In the mean time, (maybe someone suggested this and I missed it) you can just drop a dummy zip file into the respective ROM folders:
00-MAME4All.zip
,00-libretro.zip
, and00-advmame.zip
for example. Of course, these won't launch anything if you select them, but they sort to the top alphabetically and at least your menus have a "header" to help you know which is which. -
@battlecat These are the logos currently available in the custom logo pack:
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I liked the idea of keeping some of my mame roms seperated. For example having all the old classics in one system. I also didn't like the FBA logo. Lastly I didn't think friends or family would know what MAME was. So I made multiple versions of the Arcade system logo and placed them in the appropriate theme folders. Not trying to say this is the best way to organize items but its how I like to do it.
The font I used is Bauhaus 93
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@caver01 That is an interesting idea and work-around.
Thanks,
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@dquez I gotta say that this thinking is totally up my alley. Thank you for putting it out there as well. There was some initial resistance to my suggestions but I think it is starting to calm down.
I love the logos.
Thanks,
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@UDb23 Thanks! Very cool set. How do I use them?
-bc
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